PhoenixDark
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Susan Rice told Jake Tapper that the Benghazi attack was not per-meditated. hmmm
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PoliGAF 2012 |OT3| If it's not a legitimate OT the mods have ways to shut it down
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Hobbestetrician
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Saw a billboard yesterday that said "Obama 2012. YES! YES! 1000 times YES!"...in British Columbia. Haven't met a person here who isn't dumbfounded that Romney even has a shot, even people who would be from areas akin to the 'red' areas of the US. Saw a poll that showed 65% of Canadians would support Obama while Romney only got 9%.
Thagomizer
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Link?
So they are just blatantly lying.
Aaron Strife
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Jeez, if Obama loses a point a day for the rest of the election, he'll be down like 50 points! Maybe we should just call it quits now.
(the movement in his head-to-head numbers are the DNC bounce fizzling out, of which Gallup always showed the highest - I'm taking more comfort in seeing his approval numbers hold steady)
They're bending the truth as far as they can bend it without breaking. They're using the fact that the plant had one more order to get done after they decided to close down in 2008 as evidence that it was still open. The article they quote was for when the plant was 100% closing then in 2009, after that order was done.
The Librarian
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So. Two polls showing Brown ahead mean it's clearly, definitively over, but two polls showing movement in Warren's direction requires skepticism? I don't get it.
It's PD.
Terry Goodkind is so awful and transparent.
I wonder if he thinks he is really making his readers think with the kind of shit he throws in... well, his readers are probably just the people to lap it up anyway.
speculawyer
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Of course the argument they are using is pretty strange . . . . so are they saying that they would have stopped it from closing? Would they have had the government take it over and force it to remain open as a government run factory? No one in their right mind would think that someone could have change economic conditions in a couple days to keep it open so that is the only plausible way for it to have been kept open. Vote GOP for communism!
This is a pretty great read: Why I left the GOP
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I missed this response, just wanted to say:
I have a friend in Washington who is in just that situation. His parents knew he was smart so they pushed him to not 'waste' his university education on anything not 'smart'. So he went and got a degree in philosophy. There was no job path offered or even feasible where he went to, and he's working in retail.
The thing is, I can't fault him for wanting to take advantage of university for bettering himself in thinking and ability to understand. That's all good. And these conversations often get people coming up defending stuff like the arts, and higher education being about learning for its own sake. But I did get the impression that my friend never once thought about there being any options besides "become a philosopher or an accountant" and nothing was ever shown to him to demonstrate that.
The closest thing we seem to have right now to desirable skilled labor is information technology, aka, the Plumbers of the Internet. Computers and IT are the hot thing changing society this generation, so that's attractive to plenty of young people. It can also be a path to a six figure income if played right, and being lucky enough to find the right openings.
What a lot of kids today don't seem to realize tho, is that there can be serious advantages to skilled trades. Rather than upward mobility limited to becoming a middle manager, trade skills can open the door to owning a business pretty quickly. You're doing something that produces direct value from your own labor, rather than being suck as a cog in a larger machine. Opens the path to starting your own business and hiring other skilled tradespersons to expand. Flexibility too; the downside of the IT path seems to be that technology power and demand is concentrated in a few areas of the country. But contractors are needed everywhere, spread out pretty evenly.
Aaron Strife
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Election Night 2012
"The results are in and Elizabeth Warren has won a stunning victory over Scott Brown, 53-47, securing the Democrats' control over the Senate."
"Bad news for Obama."
Black Republican
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Seeing shit like this makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
GOP: Got pre existing condition? Tough shit.
ugh, you dont have to be in any particular party to know that :/
The Librarian
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I need to give some money to David Price. Next paycheck.
Aaron Strife
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I'd venture that most republicans don't give a shit about minorities being jailed more frequently than whites. In fact some probably actively support it
You shouldn't have to be. And put bluntly like he does it's hard to think that people in the Republican party wouldn't know that, but I really think a lot of them don't. I mean they might logically, but at the same time philosophically they still cling to their individual liberty stuff which just shows they haven't let the info sink in enough to disrupt that worldview.
Great read indeed, he made quite the transition and for all the right reasons. I believe I may actually be to the right of where he is now, but my hatred of the current GOP knows no bounds.
Seeing shit like this makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
Let 'Er die!
Hobbestetrician
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She should open a lemonade stand to pay for her treatment! Murica!!
He says he hated Clinton. Why?
teruterubozu
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Occupy Wall Street celebrates one year today and not one peep anywhere on GAF.
www.cnn.com/2012/09/16/us/ny-occupy-anniversary/
I'd make a thread, but really is it worth it?
www.cnn.com/2012/09/16/us/ny-occupy-anniversary/
I'd make a thread, but really is it worth it?
Probably not. Heh.
It got a discussion about income inequality going, but other than that the messaging from the protests was all over the place and the general public is going to sour on anything when the news is plastered with protesters fighting the police.
PhoenixDark
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Nope. The movement is completely dead
Aaron Strife
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Tax and spend!
Clinton had a "reputation" among the right-wing for being a crook. Accusations of ordering assassinations were common, and of course his active sex life. Now he's Democratic Jesus because it makes Obama look worse.
teruterubozu
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At best it got the income equality discussions going amongst young liberals, but that's something liberals should be aware of. Kind of like Chris Rock's "I take care of my kids!" It was more of a generational epiphany than any actual message. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted. Too bad the winters suck.
If only we could say the same for the tea party.
It's getting there.
TacticalFox88
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It's going to be revived Nov. 7th.
Black Republican
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then a year later obamacare is fully implemented! muhahaha!
and they will secretly love it
Tea Party 2020: "Obama was awesome, Hillary Clinton is a socialist Muslim."
teruterubozu
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Not much better than the Dems in 2008: The Clintons are racist.
Aaron Strife
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I think the phrase "beating a dead horse" applies pretty well here.John McCain said:
PhoenixDark
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Yup. While I don't believe they'll splinter from the GOP, there will be a grassroots movement to further move the party even farther right.
This is why I think it's very unlikely Obama will have any type of "mandate" even if he wins 08 style; as long as republicans hold the house, they'll block everything. Next year would be the perfect time to pass the Jobs Act for instance but it certainly won't pass the house.
We'll get another extension of the Bush/Obama tax cuts thus ensuring the deficit continues to grow plus a reversal (to some degree) of the defense spending cuts. Outside of that? Another year of obstruction, recess breaks, and spending wars
If republicans lose on Nov 6th, Nov 7th and onwards will be all about destroying government/the economy for November 2014
If she's too lazy to grow a new liver, she deserves to die.
Leaving a political party shouldn't be such a Truman Show experience.
Hell, leaving mormonism was such a thing for me.
Joe Shlabotnik
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PPP:
Aaron Strife
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PPP said:
PD remains skeptical
All the polling evidence indicates we're going to win Utah this year, dunno what the fuck you guys are talking about.Clevinger said:
Just like Obama's convention bounce will disappear, hers will too.
*pisses on Aaron's parade*
The Librarian
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Obviously these last few polls CLEARLY indicate that Warren has this locked down and she will win decisively. I mean, how could these polls be wrong? It's so obvious.
How can we doubt them?
How can we doubt them?
Joe Shlabotnik
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Who's saying such a thing? It points to clear movement towards Warren following the conventions, nothing more or less right now.
Sirpopopop
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