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[Aaron Strife]

Who's saying such a thing? It points to clear movement towards Warren following the conventions, nothing more or less right now.

PD said that about Brown when he was leading in the polls.

In fairness Warren's campaign started out weak but she's hitting her stride.

I know I'm not going to hold my breath for Warren, but I'm going to be hopeful. More hopeful than Baldwin. If she wins, awesome. If not ..

Warren's like 50/50. Baldwin's 25/75... Only way to save her is if Obama boosts her numbers by campaigning there.

 

[RDreamer]

I know I'm not going to hold my breath for Warren, but I'm going to be hopeful. More hopeful than Baldwin. If she wins, awesome. If not ..

 

[PhoenixDark]

PPP:

By how much? It'll probably be a small lead that doesn't mean anything

 

[reilo]

By how much? It'll probably be a small lead that doesn't mean anything

We are looking at LEAST a 6 point swing here. C'monson.

 

[bananas]

By how much? It'll probably be a small lead that doesn't mean anything

-5 to anything positive is a huge swing.

 

[StopMakingSense]

-5 to anything positive is a huge swing.

Just like the MSM and their obviously liberal skewed polls, PD has a narrative to keep up.

 

[Aaron Strife]

By how much? It'll probably be a small lead that doesn't mean anything

If Brown was up by .1 points you'd declare it locked up for him.

 

[reilo]

If Brown was up by .1 points you'd declare it locked up for him.

He's essentially calling it a lock for Brown with him being down in the polls.

 

[Tim-E]

Just like the MSM and their obviously liberal skewed polls, PD has a narrative to keep up.

The Presidential narrative is falling apart, so he's gotta find something else to latch onto.

 

[Aaron Strife]

He's essentially calling it a lock for Brown with him being down in the polls.

Considering his bullishness on Romney that can't really be a surprise.

Another PPP tweet:

And once again we find Obama with a decent sized lead in Virginia- has been the case every time we've polled there this cycle

Big surprise. Virginia is only close when you oversample Republicans and/or just make shit up straight-up.

Based on PPP's numbers:

GOP pick-ups: Nebraska (Kerrey down 10), Wisconsin (Baldwin down 5)

Dem pick-ups: Maine (King up 24), Massachusetts (Warren up by an unknown lead)

Potential Dem pick-ups: Nevada (Berkeley down 1), Arizona (Carmona down 1)

Potential GOP pick-ups: Montana (Rehberg down 2), Missouri (Akin down 1), Virginia (tied 46-46)

Would result in a 53-47 Democratic majority, exactly what we have now. Assuming Indiana (R) and North Dakota (D) don't flip, both are tossups. Virginia I think will stay blue thanks to Obama's coattails.

Given Democrats' tenuous leads in most races, GOP could run the tables and eke out a 52-48 majority, but Democrats could max out at 57.

 

[The Librarian]

By how much? It'll probably be a small lead that doesn't mean anything

This response, after two polls showing Brown ahead of Warren:

Warren down by 5% still, despite multiple (recent) cases of Brown taking conservative positions or flip flopping on women's issues? She's done. I don't buy the idea that she's too liberal for MA, of all places. She doesn't connect with many voters, and her speaking style is often shrill and unconvincing. She should be in the cabinet where she doesn't have to shake hands and be buddy buddy with voters.

I'm not sure a woman can beat Brown, to be perfectly honest. He appeals too much to men, and even women, and is just the type of moderate republican that wins in the northeast.

Baldwin never had a chance against Thompson

 

[daedalius]

On phone with dad, says to avoid 'muslims' on our vacation in Costa Rica, because they are all violent and want to hurt Americans, and are a 'cult' in his 'I'm a member of the Catholic Church' opinion.

Tried to tell him the actions of a few don't define everything, pulls out there are no moderate muslims condemning the attacks... told him they actually are. I told him extremists in any religion are bad, have to give examples because he obviously doesn't believe me I guess. First example was Crusades 'oh but that was so long ago', second example is religious factions in Ireland killing each other...

'haha I have no idea why they'd do that'

/smh

MUSLINS! MURICA!

 

[B-Dubs]

The Presidential narrative is falling apart, so he's gotta find something else to latch onto.

Please tell me he has some kind of avatar bet going on.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Please tell me he has some kind of avatar bet going on.

None for the House and Senate, which is probably why around this time last year he was pushing for a Democratic Congress with President Romney. Now that there's a virtual consensus on Obama winning, he has Republicans winning out of spite.

73% of Democrats in Virginia are 'very excited' to vote, 63% of Republicans are. 85% of African Americans, 57% of whites

But everyone's disappointed in Obummer!

 

[Particle Physicist]

On phone with dad, says to avoid 'muslims' on our vacation in Costa Rica, because they are all violent and want to hurt Americans, and are a 'cult' in his 'I'm a member of the Catholic Church' opinion.

Tried to tell him the actions of a few don't define everything, pulls out there are no moderate muslims condemning the attacks... told him they actually are. I told him extremists in any religion are bad, have to give examples because he obviously doesn't believe me I guess. First example was Crusades 'oh but that was so long ago', second example is religious factions in Ireland killing each other...

'haha I have no idea why they'd do that'

/smh

MUSLINS! MURICA!

Does he know where Costa Rica is?

 

[B-Dubs]

Does he know where Costa Rica is?

Some how I doubt it.

 

[Frank the Great]

But everyone's disappointed in Obummer!

the enthusiasm factor is a self-fulfilling prophecy; the recent swath of polls showing an inevitable obama victory has excited democrats and depressed republicans.

paying those thugs to go after gallup was the best money the obama campaign ever spent.

 

[Tamanon]

On phone with dad, says to avoid 'muslims' on our vacation in Costa Rica, because they are all violent and want to hurt Americans, and are a 'cult' in his 'I'm a member of the Catholic Church' opinion.

Tried to tell him the actions of a few don't define everything, pulls out there are no moderate muslims condemning the attacks... told him they actually are. I told him extremists in any religion are bad, have to give examples because he obviously doesn't believe me I guess. First example was Crusades 'oh but that was so long ago', second example is religious factions in Ireland killing each other...

'haha I have no idea why they'd do that'

/smh

MUSLINS! MURICA!

Also, not sure there are many Muslims in Costa Rica.

 

[Aaron Strife]

the enthusiasm factor is a self-fulfilling prophecy; the recent swath of polls showing an inevitable obama victory has excited democrats and depressed republicans.

paying those thugs to go after gallup was the best money the obama campaign ever spent.

Well they better be careful. If Democrats think for one second Obama has this in the bag, everyone will stay home and Republicans will win the Senate.

 

[Suikoguy]

Well they better be careful. If Democrats think for one second Obama has this in the bag, everyone will stay home and Republicans will win the Senate.

This cuts both ways.

 

[Y2Kev]

Warren's only hope is that turnout for Obama is high and people just vote down ticket. Sorry, I want brown out of that seat so bad but I don't see it. He has potential to stick around forever because he's just so...likable.

 

[Averon]

I'm still sorta surprised Mitt's campaign only now started 'plan b', and it's not a good plan at that. Throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks isn't much of a plan; it looks like the death spasms of a dying campaign. Obama's polls numbers weren't falling all summer, even in the face of unrelenting SuperPAC ads. That should have clued the campaign in much earlier that maybe solely criticizing Obama on the economy will not be enough.

 

[Black Republican]

looks like we got an infighting Romney story coming up:
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew

Interesting, Drudge saying Politico going to publish a piece on Romney campaign infighting

 

[johnsmith]

The circular firing squad sure started early this year.

 

[B-Dubs]

looks like we got an infighting Romney story coming up:
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew

Oh boy, here we go.

 

[daedalius]

Does he know where Costa Rica is?

I'd hope so, but I doubt that would break him out of his bubble at all.

 

[TacticalFox88]

looks like we got an infighting Romney story coming up:
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew

Is ANYONE surprised by this?

 

[The Librarian]

Reports of infighting in the Romney campaign will make Democratic voters complacent and thus more likely to stay home, allowing Romney to win the election.

 

[B-Dubs]

Is ANYONE surprised by this?

I doubt it, but it should be good for a laugh.

 

[Aaron Strife]

This cuts both ways.

Yeah I'm just playing Democratic concern troll there. It could be argued that it cost Democrats the House in 1996 though - that election was a snoozer and Clinton saw his support cut in half by election night compared to the polls. This campaign, at least on Obama's side is a bit more spirited however.

looks like we got an infighting Romney story coming up:
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew

I imagine a lot of Republicans will be throwing Romney under the bus to save what's left of Ryan's credibility.

 

[Clevinger]

looks like we got an infighting Romney story coming up:
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew

Seems weird for Drudge to give it attention.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Reports of infighting in the Romney campaign will make Democratic voters complacent and thus more likely to stay home, allowing Romney to win the election.

I know you're not serious, but where do people get the idea that voters become complacent? I haven't seen a shred of evidence for that, this election or past, unless I suck at doing research.

 

[Tamanon]

Seems weird for Drudge to give it attention.

Drudge might be getting close to bailing on him.

 

[Averon]

Drudge might be getting close to bailing on him.

Yup. The narrative post-election to understand/excuse Romney's loss is already forming.

 

[Black Republican]

reading it now, one long page

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81280.html

 

[Aaron Strife]

I know you're not serious, but where do people get the idea that voters become complacent? I haven't seen a shred of evidence for that, this election or past, unless I suck at doing research.

1996 was the only real example because no one really cared about either of the candidates. Clinton led by double digits in the polls but his total was cut down to 9 points. Obviously there was no direct implication of that since Clinton won anyway, and easily, but there were enough close House seats where it could have made the difference in determining control of Congress.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Drudge might be getting close to bailing on him.

Drudge will never bail on him.

The story is promoted for awareness reasons.

 

[Y2Kev]

Going to plan B is bad for us. Plan A doesn't work, so I want them to keep using Plan A. Infighting indicates they might stumble onto something good.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Going to plan B is bad for us. Plan A doesn't work, so I want them to keep using Plan A. Infighting indicates they might stumble onto something good.

Don't worry, Plan B is to keep doing Plan A but more.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

After 2010, I won't take anything for granted with the American Public. The good news is, Obama is nearing 50% in a lot of National and Swing state polls.

The main thing I am worried about now is the debates, Romney is putting a lot of prep in, no news about Obama on the same front.

 

[Y2Kev]

Meh, just read the article. Not much there. Wow, campaigns are hard to manage and are big and have people who disagree. They don't even really hit on anything too fundamental that you couldn't see from the outside-- that Romney is boring, that his campaign is playing it safe, that he has had people unsure of his VP pick and second guessing things.

The only real revelation was that the speech was written like a night before.

 

[Opiate]

Romney apparently grew up poor. Fact checkers can't stop him.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/romney-just-saying-he-grew-up-poor-in-memphis-now,29571/

 

[Jackson50]

McCain: U.S. ‘Weakened’ By ‘Disengagement’ Under Obama

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mccain-us-weakened-by-disengagement-under-obama

I so glad he did not make it to the White House.

The U.S. is clearly more engaged than during the Bush Administration. McCain conflates reckless belligerence with engagement. The rigid foreign policy McCain supported for eight years, and still supports, weakened America to an astonishing degree. We alienated many of our allies, wasted vital resources, and eschewed reason. We abandoned prudent strategy for ideological nonsense. He represents the worst of the Bush Administration.

Friedman's latest highlights the significance of US-China relations for the next administration, and few decades further i suppose . China's internal divisions and strong economic ties will likely make it so that we'll never see a truly bi-polar split of global competing interests as with the USSR. Regardless, will be fun to hear Romney feel his way through an answer in the FP debate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/opinion/sunday/friedman-the-talk-of-china.html?_r=1

Also Friendman can't stop Friedmaning himself. Xi wasn't hiding under the bed. Autocratic regimes hide their preferred leaders during tempests - perceived or not - regularly. Dork.

And upon posting this and returning to the OT I just notice this thread - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491607

lol

He'll maintain his confrontational posturing. I doubt he relents even when confronted by Obama noting his quixotic stance is unrealistic. And I'll breathe a sigh of relief that he'll never occupy the White House.

 

[Clevinger]

Romney apparently grew up poor. Fact checkers can't stop him.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/romney-just-saying-he-grew-up-poor-in-memphis-now,29571/

So good.

 

[Black Republican]

Meh, just read the article. Not much there. Wow, campaigns are hard to manage and are big and have people who disagree. They don't even really hit on anything too fundamental that you couldn't see from the outside-- that Romney is boring, that his campaign is playing it safe, that he has had people unsure of his VP pick and second guessing things.

The only real revelation was that the speech was written like a night before.

yeah kinda boring really.

the good shit will come later

 

[Mario]

Don't worry, Plan B is to keep doing Plan A but more.

"Hey, why don't we try that Death Panels thing again?"

 

[Hobbestetrician]

PPP: Obama 51-46 in VA.

 

[Trurl]

The only real revelation was that the speech was written like a night before.

Perhaps that explains why his speech sucked so much.

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think that a speech should be a series of sentences grouped into paragraphs that build onto each other to form a coherent argument. Romney's speech seemed like a series of statements with little connection to each other.

 

[B-Dubs]

Perhaps that explains why his speech sucked so much.

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think that a speech should be a series of sentences grouped into paragraphs that build onto each other to form a coherent argument. Romney's speech seemed like a series of statements with little connection to each other.

Which based on what the article said about the writing process of this speech does not surprise me.

 

[Aaron Strife]

PPP: Obama 51-46 in VA.

Pretty good considering it's a less Democratic electorate than in 2008. Ohio is out of Romney's reach and so is Virginia - he'd have to pull a major coup in blue states like Michigan to win without them.