Yeah, he said previously that he only pays cap gains.
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Yeah, he said previously that he only pays cap gains.
Wow the RNC responded to that poll
Haha
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/rnc-responds-to-marquette-poll-showing-obama-up
Haha
anonymous_abc
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delusions of grandeur...
How do you roll that out on the same day the most accurate pollster for a given state just came out with a new poll having you down double digits? One that also paints you as an anchor on a Republican senatorial candidate who's fortunes have trended down parallel to your mistakes?
You can skip to 4:15 in the clip...
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-co.../september-18-2012/mitt-romney-s-secret-video
"I hope to see you all later in the Russian F--K-Pit"
<3 Colbert.
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-co.../september-18-2012/mitt-romney-s-secret-video
"I hope to see you all later in the Russian F--K-Pit"
<3 Colbert.
I think you mean the RNC responded near that poll. Or possibly around that poll.
I think it'd be most accurate to say they ignored the poll.
Dagger!!
RustyNails
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With Ohio and Wisconsin gone to Obama, what does a Romney path to victory look like?
With Wisconsin and Ohio, Obama wins.
I don't think Nevada is a swing state this election.
It doesn't.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
This was never really in question. I think PA is the real key(stone), and it was never in play.
Romney has to turn his fortunes around in Wi/Oh/Va rather quickly or he is going to get skunked. Even worse than McCain 08(whom I predicted he would do slightly better than).
Sherrod Brown has really gone negative on Mandel in the Senate race in Ohio and I am wondering if it isn't backfiring. A lot of polls are showing close(r).
Sherrod Brown has really gone negative on Mandel in the Senate race in Ohio and I am wondering if it isn't backfiring. A lot of polls are showing close(r).
Vestal
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Offcourse.. Im just going by the conservative view of poll aggregates.
Hell, we'll know very early in the evening. If our two east coast swing states (NH and VA) are called, you can pull the champaigne out of the fridge.
edit: let me reiterate once again just how fucked the GOP is with the Electoral College for the next few decades. The earth will have to move for them to crack the lock.
edit: let me reiterate once again just how fucked the GOP is with the Electoral College for the next few decades. The earth will have to move for them to crack the lock.
Vestal
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But how? 49 days till election... 14 points down in Wisconsin.... thats an insurmountable lead.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Anybody find my prediction that 2012 would match 2008? It's true, but I was laughed off.
That's only one poll.
Vestal
Junior Member
Ok put it this way.. if come October 1st its still double digits. Forget about it
No way, people seem to have forgotten exactly how bad McCain got destroyed in '08.
Romney may get crushed but he won't do numbers like 365-173.
At worst I expect he might do 332-206.
RustyNails
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Now now. Aaron Strife is here to console you.
NullPointer
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Sooooo good. I'd recommend watching the full clip though.
That particular deer looks like a fucking asshole.
Forgive me if that comes across as inarticulate. My point, GAF, was that we need a strong middle class, and we need to get the elderly back to work.
PantherLotus
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it was you!
anonymous_abc
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im genuinely curious about something.
the talk is always about a handful of swing states that could go either way.
are all the other states considered soo red/blue that nothing on earth could swing them till the election?
and are theses states actively campaigned in at all?
the talk is always about a handful of swing states that could go either way.
are all the other states considered soo red/blue that nothing on earth could swing them till the election?
and are theses states actively campaigned in at all?
Yeah, I really don't see Obama carry either Indiana or North Carolina, and I can't see him making up those electors anywhere else.
Pretty much.
But those things change from election to election.
Nope.
They do come to take our money though.
there's congressional and local campaigning, but it's not close to the scale of presidential campaign in swing states.
PhoenixDark
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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/poll-nearly-half-of-americans-find-nothing-in
the poll: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politi...2?hootPostID=5d8a8e9f36d0df7f85685c10d6990ed5
If only Mitt wasn't white, he'd do better in polls like this
I don't think it's out of the question if Romney's campaign really tanks hard and conservatives get even more discouraged for places like Florida, IA and NC to go blue and reach near McCain levels.
But you are right, I didn't realize how lopsided the EC count was.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
the bold is the important part, and to answer bluntly: they're locked in.
the answer to your second question is yes.
Bel Marduk
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Obama won't win Indiana. All the other previously blue states, I think he could carry.
anonymous_abc
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RustyNails
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Don't worry. Everyone's favorite Magical Hispanic Marco Rubio will unite the Whites and Hispanics into an unstoppable force in 2016, and stomp Hillary Clinton all the way to New Hampshire.
If Hillary runs you might as well crown her, there's no politician in either party that can compare in stature and who will be eligible to run.
Black Republican
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i need to save the gif of weebey!
The Librarian
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Klein and the gang are having great fun on Twitter with #WonkRappers
1. Fiscal Kliff
2. EmineNGDP Targeting
3. RUN-OMB
4. DJ Filly Buster
Suzy Khimm: "Pump up the base(line)!"
1. Fiscal Kliff
2. EmineNGDP Targeting
3. RUN-OMB
4. DJ Filly Buster
Suzy Khimm: "Pump up the base(line)!"
Black Republican
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Nasir Dow Jones
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I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
State polls lag national polls.
Regardless 14 points is a hell of a lead in a "Swing" state.
Current national (let alone state) polls also don't including the 47% comment, which hits Romney harder then Romney's Libya bullshit.
Ignatz Mouse
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Saying that yes, you would have let their chief economy fail doesn't play well even with conservatives.
Once again CNN 10 steps behind everyone else. Why in the fuck are they polling Michigan?
Some interesting crosstabs between the September and mid-August Marquette polls:
* Economy has gotten better over the past year, +9 (19 to 28; gotten worse is -4)
* Economy will get better over the next year, +6 (41 to 47; get worse is -5, stay the same is -5, don't know is +4!)
* Recession had "major effect, but finances recovered" +4 (refused to answer -5!)
* Obama net approval, +12 (48/45 to 54/39)
* Walker net approval, -8 (46/50 to 50/46)
* Obama net favorables, +7 (52/43 to 55/39)
* Romney net favorables, -5 (35/45 to 36/51)
* Ryan net favorables, -6 (41/34 to 41/41, "not enough info" -5)
* Ryan VP choice "poor", +6 (19 to 25)
( * Following politics "most of the time," +6 -- COINCIDENCE?)
* Walker net favorables, -8 (50/45 to 46/49)
* Baldwin net favorables, +10 (32/37 to 36/31, "not enough info" +0)
* Thompson net favorables, -7 (40/38 to 39/44, "not enough info" -4 -- and yet I thought Baldwin was doing all the campaigning)
* Presidential RV/LV spread, -2 (+3 Romney to +1 Romney -- Baldwin is 1 pt better among LV than RV in both polls)
* Higher taxes/more services, +7 net (44/48 to 47/44)
* Obamacare net approval, +14 (42/49 to 49/42)
* Obama "strong leader," +16 net (52/46 to 60/38)
* Romney "strong leader," -6 net (46/38 to 46/44 -- there's that six percent again!)
* Democrat self-identification, +6 (26/28 to 26/34, independent -4 -- with leaners included, Dem is +7, pure independent -4)
* Economy has gotten better over the past year, +9 (19 to 28; gotten worse is -4)
* Economy will get better over the next year, +6 (41 to 47; get worse is -5, stay the same is -5, don't know is +4!)
* Recession had "major effect, but finances recovered" +4 (refused to answer -5!)
* Obama net approval, +12 (48/45 to 54/39)
* Walker net approval, -8 (46/50 to 50/46)
* Obama net favorables, +7 (52/43 to 55/39)
* Romney net favorables, -5 (35/45 to 36/51)
* Ryan net favorables, -6 (41/34 to 41/41, "not enough info" -5)
* Ryan VP choice "poor", +6 (19 to 25)
( * Following politics "most of the time," +6 -- COINCIDENCE?)
* Walker net favorables, -8 (50/45 to 46/49)
* Baldwin net favorables, +10 (32/37 to 36/31, "not enough info" +0)
* Thompson net favorables, -7 (40/38 to 39/44, "not enough info" -4 -- and yet I thought Baldwin was doing all the campaigning)
* Presidential RV/LV spread, -2 (+3 Romney to +1 Romney -- Baldwin is 1 pt better among LV than RV in both polls)
* Higher taxes/more services, +7 net (44/48 to 47/44)
* Obamacare net approval, +14 (42/49 to 49/42)
* Obama "strong leader," +16 net (52/46 to 60/38)
* Romney "strong leader," -6 net (46/38 to 46/44 -- there's that six percent again!)
* Democrat self-identification, +6 (26/28 to 26/34, independent -4 -- with leaners included, Dem is +7, pure independent -4)
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