O'Reilly and Dick Morris did the same thing on the previous round of Fox News polling when it was favorable for Obama.
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O'Reilly and Dick Morris did the same thing on the previous round of Fox News polling when it was favorable for Obama.
Clinton had most of the Latino support against Obama in the primaries, and Clinton mopped up on Black voters in 92 and 96. That won't be an issue.
I really think that 2010 is going to end up being the GOP's final straw. Mid Term Elections always have low turnout, and that always favors the GOP, but I don't think we'll see a GOP landslide like that for quite awhile, if ever.
I really think that 2010 is going to end up being the GOP's final straw. Mid Term Elections always have low turnout, and that always favors the GOP, but I don't think we'll see a GOP landslide like that for quite awhile, if ever.
So usually I am not home at this time of day and even when I am I never watch Bill O or anything on Fox news. Bored tonight so I was flipped through the channels and landed on fox news with Bill interviewing Dennis Miller for his reaction to the Obama Letterman appearance.
WTF DID I JUST WATCH/HEAR??!!!!??!??!
Has Dennis Miller been this bat shit insane always? Holy cow this dude was off the walls nuts, raging, and completely off about well everything.
WTF DID I JUST WATCH/HEAR??!!!!??!??!
Has Dennis Miller been this bat shit insane always? Holy cow this dude was off the walls nuts, raging, and completely off about well everything.
Being exposed to O'Reilly for too long has that effect.
Actually, I am not really sure if he was crazy before he started doing that recurring bit with Bill, but he is pretty whacked out.
worldrunover
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Yeah he's been like that for a while now.
Since around 9/11, yeah.
Well, with black voters...
Obama 2008 95-4
Clinton 1996 84-12-4
Turnout was higher under Obama for sure as well, though I'm too lazy to look that up.
Obviously she wins the traditional democrat constituencies, but that's a non-trivial difference.
Nice guy. But fucking crazy politics.
I think 9/11 drove him over the deep end, I remember seeing something of his from before that and thinking he was pretty good. Since then he's slowly gone more and more insane.
Basileus777
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Kerry won 88% of the black vote so they were tending more Democratic even before Obama. And after 8 years of Obama and an Obama endorsement, it's almost certain that Hillary would do better than 84% in 2016, even if she wouldn't match Obama's margin.
The 2008 primary is something that will truly go down in history. Two absolutely legit political giants fighting for control of the same party. It was also probably the hardest race Obama ever had to run.
Yeah I'd think that eight years of the Republicans going completely crazy because the President is black ought to have alienated whatever was left of their support in that area.
speculawyer
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He has been on the right for a while now . . . but he has become more crazy. He is not Victoria Jackson level crazy though.
Dominican Power
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Would the blowback of Romney's disastrous campaign severely affect the campaigns of other Republicans?
If it's bad enough it could affect down ticket races, yes. But he would really have to fuck up and Obama and the Dems would have to do a great job of tying each of the down ticket candidates to Romney, all while those candidates try and distance themselves from Romney.
It can definitely hurt him in blue states. Scott Brown, for example, is probably shitting his pants.
His anger was hilarious to watch. Bill played two clips from the Letterman show and asked Dennis for his opinion and Dennis wouldn't talk about anything presented but just go off about how Obama is a terrible president, doesn't say anything, and just knows how to talk.
And he said all of that with a vein popping in his neck screaming across the tv.
His campaign is hardly a disaster. Here he is reaching out to the American poor:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/romney-apologizes-to-nations-150-million-starving,29603/
Yeah I agree with this.
My only point is that Hillary doesn't have pure upside to Obama electorally, as Obama is very effective with a few groups and you lose something by not having him at the top.
Thanks for looking up the turnout info, Paches-EJ-.
Red Blaster
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I've watched MSNBC intermittently the past couple years and only have started tuning in daily recently; Maddow is still as awesome as I remember but Ed Schultz is pretty meh and Lawrence O'Donnell seems like he desperately wants to be Bill Maher.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Isn't O'Donnell a douche? I recall him trying to accuse Hermain Cain of dodging the draft and wound up generating support and sympathy for him among everyone, even here.
Not that anybody here needs it, but this is a pretty good dismantling of Romney's 47% assumptions, recommended by Jared Bernstein.
cartoon_soldier
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That is just simple shit, they are just now getting around to it.
It's the best way to improve his likability, scripted/structured ads/speeches. Will it work? Who fucking knows
They think they can keep the contributions coming in but its not going to be anywhere like it would be if it was closer. You cant convince people to donate large sums of money if they are believe its a failed mission.
From the article:
It looks like Mitt has joined with his buds Snooki and Boehner to form an Axis of Orange.
Hobbestetrician
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From the article:
It looks like Mitt has joined with his buds Snooki and Boehner to form an Axis of Orange.
Just pandering to the Latinos on Univision.
Red Blaster
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Yeah he's a douche; definitely the closest I've seen to a lefty Bill O'Riles.
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Dat optics
Dat optics
For 2016, I'm guessing on the democrat side, it will be Cuomo, Biden, and Clinton as the big three. That's gonna be pretty intense. And if that does happen, who does Obama stump for? (Assuming he has a successful second term) I'm guessing he would stump for Clinton, as I'm sure they already have made that deal a long time ago.
Red Blaster
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Biden will be old as fuck in 2016, no way he runs.
I would think that he wouldn't do anything for any of them, wait for the people to pick a nominee. There would be too much potential negative blowback from picking one or the other, wouldn't there?
Biden's going to be too old. Odds are Cuomo and Clinton will be the big ones, honestly if Clinton runs I don't think Cuomo will. I think a lot of people would sit it out if Clinton announced, she's just that big at the moment. I doubt we'll see any big names before she announces her intentions.
That lends some insight into his light campaign schedule. He's banking it all on the debates.
Good luck with that.
jamesinclair
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Forget Biden.
Forget Cuomo. Hes a shit governor and nobody likes him. Hes the Rick perry of the democrats. Theres some mythical " star power" and then you actually look at his record and he falls apart.
Hillary? Maybe. Shes looking old, and the optics might be too bad.
Its going to be Antonio Villaraigosa who will turn Texas so blue youll think the state came home from a date with a baptist.
Throw in Bloomberg as well. Hes liked by independents.
And naturally, you need a Massachusetts man in there. Capuano will run I think.
he might've had a chance with the domestic policy one, but not anymore.
Suikoguy
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Yep, especially since he doubled down on his 47 comments.
That ain't how politics works. Trust me, Obama has already promised his support to somebody. Possibly even multiple somebodies.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Here's something that annoys me about the Obama campaign: I donated to his campaign the other day and then today I get an email "from" Joe Biden that starts with "look [name] you've really got to get involved here", etc asking for a donation. F@# You! I just donated, don't tell me I've got to give more.
"this campaign is about the 100%", and now they're saying the video was edited and taken out of context.
All campaigns do this, unfortunately. They're going to be bugging you a lot more.
nah, joe biden just needs train fare.
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