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[Loudninja]

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To be expected.

 

[ErasureAcer]

FOX News is so whack. Last night I was listening to C2CAM as I was going to bed and they said on the news break Obama had no campaign events scheduled for Friday. Obama is in Virginia today and held a rally.

 

[massoluk]

So basically, in response to critics asking if he actually paid tax in the last ten years, he is releasing summary of the past 20 years, totally not looking like he's padding the number of the last decade with the decade prior... The hell is wrong with you Romney Campaign.

EDIT: nevermind, may be im just being too hasty, so may be they'll release everything except by items huh?

 

[PhoenixDark]

Not in that way - here is a better line, if he can make it without being a rich schmuck about it: "Look, the President can say all he wants about those comments from last May. The fact is, I have given away over 30% of my income to help the the people he says I don't care about. Conversely, he hasn't given a dime to his own half brother who lives in poverty in Kenya."

Agreed. He gave 30% to the 47%, Obama gave nothing to his own brother. I can't think of many things more out of touch than that.

 

[3rdman]

What a fucking charlatan...

He knew that he would be running for president well in advance of filling last year's returns so he packed it with as a high a charitable amount as he could.

1. First and foremost, most of that money went to the church...not soup kitchen or homeless shelters. They may get help from the church but regardless, it's a bit too self-serving.

2. This reminds us all about his previous years. At this point (even if he is not) it gives the impression that he is hiding something...money stuffed in the Cayman's or other off-shore accounts and would obviously make him look bad.

 

[Officerrob]

Agreed. He gave 30% to the 47%, Obama gave nothing to his own brother. I can't think of many things more out of touch than that.

Your act is far more out of touch with reality

 

[googleplex]

Mitt's debate problem is that he won't be debating within a vacuum. He'll have to explain his 47% comments, he'll have to spin his abortion beliefs, he'll have to explain how his health care plan is different from Obama's, and perhaps most of all he'll have to explain how he is different from Bush. If this was just a debate between a competent governor and a failed president he'd win. Instead it's a debate between a failed presidential candidate and a failed president - Obama will win that unless something crazy happens

Seriously? Don't do that dude. We count on you to be one of the few sane and reasonable, conservative posters here.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Yeah, Bill Maher was right. He didn't want to release his tax returns because he didn't want people to see just how much money he was donating to his cult

Wow. Yeah, that is exactly what's going on here. Except for this is exactly the type of donation he had on his previous return he had released. Great job on the cult comment, though.

AlteredBeast: I understand your own devotion to the church and I respect your desire to consider things in your own terms, but I'm really not joking when I personally consider Romney to be an excellent spokesperson for the church organization. Moneyed business types in a corporate structure with a sketchy record that need to open their finances.

Sure, they've done good, but my opinion of their net value is not high.

I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree with your premise.

 

[Stinkles]

Romney is a genius. We had forgotten about his taxes, his mormonism and his offshore wealth, focusing instead on his other retarded shit. And now he sends out a giant reminder with more questions than answers.

Who is running his campaign? Blackberry?

 

[Suikoguy]

Romney is a genius. We had forgotten about his taxes, his mormonism and his offshore wealth, focusing instead on his other retarded shit. And now he sends out a giant reminder with more questions than answers.

Who is running his campaign? Blackberry?

Nokia

LOL! PD isn't conservative.

Hooked another one...

 

[AlteredBeast]

Seriously? Don't do that dude. We count on you to be one of the few sane and reasonable, conservative posters here.

LOL! PD isn't conservative.

 

[The Librarian]

LOL! PD isn't conservative.

Pretty sure he was making a joke about PD's annoying schtick.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Attacking Islam=racism. Attacking Mormonism=perfectly ok

Who cares that he is Mormon outside of you people? Polls show Americans don't care

 

[eBay Huckster]

Seriously? Don't do that dude. We count on you to be one of the few sane and reasonable, conservative posters here.

I wonder what he'll be posting like once he loses this avatar bet, because this current schtick is generally hilarious

 

[Vestal]

The Romneys’ generous charitable donations in 2011 would have significantly reduced their tax obligation for the year. The Romneys thus limited their deduction of charitable contributions to conform to the Governor's statement in August, based upon the January estimate of income, that he paid at least 13% in income taxes in each of the last 10 years.

"Frankly, if I had paid more than are legally due, I don't think I'd be qualified to become president," he said. "I'd think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires."

 

[KingGondo]

Attacking Islam=racism. Attacking Mormonism=perfectly ok

For the record, I'm perfectly OK with attacking both.


Edit: :lol at Vestal. I guess that settles it then!

 

[Half and half]

Yet another flop flop.

/facepalm

 

[eBay Huckster]

Attacking Islam=racism. Attacking Mormonism=perfectly ok

I'm only okay with attacking religion when I can use a Holy War casus belli.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Attacking Islam=racism. Attacking Mormonism=perfectly ok

Who cares that he is Mormon outside of you people? Polls show Americans don't care

You must be new to Neo... Oh it's you.

 

[The Librarian]

Seems like Romney's summary is raising more questions than providing answers.

 

[Officerrob]

Seems like Romney's summary is raising more questions than providing answers.

That was always going to happen, the summary was a dumb idea

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

I'm only okay with attacking religion when I can use a Holy War casus belli.

Nice EU reference.

 

[Hitokage]

I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree with your premise.

Well, it's not like we're going to see eye to eye on this subject anyway. Regardless of whether or not Romney represents something, he's certainly a bad example of a person.

 

[Suikoguy]

That was always going to happen, the summary was a dumb idea

Yep, should have just released the one complete year.
There are some tidbits conservatives can point at, but it does raise more questions then answers.

 

[kehs]

What is wrong with this guy.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Well, it's not like we're going to see eye to eye on this subject anyway. Regardless of whether or not Romney represents something, he's certainly a bad example of a person.

Now that is something we do see eye to eye on

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

LOL! PD isn't conservative.

Truthfully it works better with me since it's not a sthick and people do seem to get it confused all the time.

 

[Hitokage]

Truthfully it works better with me since it's not a sthick and people do seem to get it confused all the time.

When Obama mentioned clinging to guns, he meant you.

 

[Crisco]

Attacking Islam=racism. Attacking Mormonism=perfectly ok

Who cares that he is Mormon outside of you people? Polls show Americans don't care

No one is attacking Mormonism. We're attacking the idea that donating to it is considered charitable. Giving money to an organization that already has tens of billions in assets isn't charitable.

 

[B-Dubs]

Seems like Romney's summary is raising more questions than providing answers.

Was there ever any doubt that it would?

 

[eBay Huckster]

Nice EU reference.

These threads really don't have enough of those.

e: oh god why do I suddenly want to donate to the DCCC or DFA

 

[jbug617]

Seems like Romney's summary is raising more questions than providing answers.

Just wait and see Fox News will bring in "experts" to spin Romney taxes.

 

[Hitokage]

Attacking Islam=racism. Attacking Mormonism=perfectly ok

Who cares that he is Mormon outside of you people? Polls show Americans don't care

In general: Attacking Catholic leaders = ok. Attacking Catholics = not ok.

Hypocrites shouldn't be shielded regardless.

 

[DasRaven]

I wonder if the next set of Castellanos' Purple Strategies poll numbers for Romney/Ryan will suffer because of today's news.
Alex Castellanos on summary - Is this a joke?

News summary tonight:
-Ryan booed by AARP
-Romney releases cooked 2011 tax return and limited 'summary' of last 20 years
-Romney/Ryan has 50% the cash-on-hand as Obama/Biden

This will do wonders for shaking that "We're panicking because we're losing." narrative.

 

[sharbhund]

9% tax rate?

If Romney had taken all his deductions, he wd have paid closer to 9% tax in 2011. He paid extra VOLUNTARILY just for optics.

 

[The Librarian]

Just wait and see Fox News will bring in "experts" to spin Romney taxes.

I will enjoy seeing them spin the fact that Romney less in, and at best comparable, taxes than the poorest twenty percent of Americans.

 

[jamesinclair]

9% tax rate?

This campaign is the gift that keeps giving....every day, something amazing

 

[GhaleonEB]

9% tax rate?

The optics worked about as well as his spray-on tan.

 

[KingGondo]

9% tax rate?

Yeah, I noticed it in the summary posted on Mitt's website.

They didn't claim the full charitable deduction to bring his total effective rate in line with Mitt's "I paid at least 13% every year" soundbite.

 

[kehs]

-Romney/Ryan has 50% the cash-on-hand as Obama/Biden

What happens to excess funds from incumbent presidential campaigns?

 

[Chumly]

9% tax rate?

Good god this campaign is run by idiots. I can't wait for someone to ask about if he's qualified since he can't do taxes properly

 

[Diablos]

can you imagine what obama's margin would be if he actually, gasp, followed through on his promises such as bringing unemployment down to 6%, curbing the rise of the oceans, and closing gitmo? obama lucks out again with a subpar opponent.

The sad thing is that Mitt was the GOP's best shot.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Wait wait are they seriously releasing an averaged-out summary of the last 20 years, and not individual rates for each year?

 

[Aaron Strife]

What happens to excess funds from incumbent presidential campaigns?

It all goes to Mitt Romney.

Hey GAF, I voted today! First time in a presidential election. Filling in that circle next to Obama's name felt so good, man.

It felt even better filling in the circle next to the anti-gay marriage amendment.

 

[The Librarian]

Wait wait are they seriously releasing an averaged-out summary of the last 20 years, and not individual rates for each year?

Not releasing, released.

 

[B-Dubs]

Wait wait are they seriously releasing an averaged-out summary of the last 20 years, and not individual rates for each year?

Yup, this campaign is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Kosmo]

Good god this campaign is run by idiots. I can't wait for someone to ask about if he's qualified since he can't do taxes properly

Mitt doesn't take deductions because he wants the optics of paying a higher tax rate.
Buffet takes every deduction he can find, then complains he should pay more.

PoliGAF slams Mitt, attacks anyone who suggest Buffet should just pay more if he wants. Gotta love political discussion.

I will laugh when people here are up in arms after Romney loses and he files an amended return to get his money back.

 

[Vestal]

In basketball terms this is what is called a "Reverse Dagger", or what James Harden did in the finals.

"Frankly, if I had paid more than are legally due, I don't think I'd be qualified to become president," he said. "I'd think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires."

 

[DasRaven]

Wait wait are they seriously releasing an averaged-out summary of the last 20 years, and not individual rates for each year?

Correct, because if you don't include the years BEFORE Bush 43 dropped the cap gains rate his 20 year average would be closer to 13% than 20%.

 

[Hitokage]

Mitt Romney endorses Barack Obama.