Manos: The Hans of Fate
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In fairness he's still doing better than any other contender for the GOP nod would have been doing now.
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In a way he may be doing more for national awareness of the tax inequality going on.
I would have loved to see what a general election campaign against Herman Cain would've looked like.
speculawyer
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Hobbestetrician
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Is there a statute of limitations on how long someone can be referred to as 'Governor' or is that always what someone like Romney or Palin will be called because it is the highest office they have held? I get why someone like Hannity would refer to those two as Governor but is it always the appropriate title?
Nope. Her entire goal is to piss liberals off and get headlines. It works every single time.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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I would have paid money to see it.
It is pretty standard as far as I know.
Pretty much. Ann Coulter loves to say really crazy things, don't need to make a thread everytime she opens her mouth. If it was someone from the Romney campaign, that'd be different.
Why do people keep falling for that "already taxed" line.
Sure, if you invest in stocks without putting that investment into an IRA account to avoid paying taxes on your principal, the money you originally invest is after tax money. But the income you make from that investment has never been taxed. And you only get taxed on capital gains not on original investment amount.
It's a straight lie, and anyone who claims it is either a gigantic douche bag willing to say anything to give themselves more tax breaks, or doesn't understand the basics of how investments work. I have a feeling Romney is in the former category.
Sure, if you invest in stocks without putting that investment into an IRA account to avoid paying taxes on your principal, the money you originally invest is after tax money. But the income you make from that investment has never been taxed. And you only get taxed on capital gains not on original investment amount.
It's a straight lie, and anyone who claims it is either a gigantic douche bag willing to say anything to give themselves more tax breaks, or doesn't understand the basics of how investments work. I have a feeling Romney is in the former category.
i think if you quit, you shouldn't be given the respect.
Campaigning against Herman would've simply sped up the Cain Train. Would've been better off saving the money and letting it go where it goes.
Byakuya769
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Well he's talking directly about corporate taxes and then a hypothetical additional tax on the profit passthrough to shareholders. But Speculawyer already did the bitch slapping for that point.
So he's still full of shit.
You're not technically supposed to be called Governor at all after you leave office (according to the books), but in practice they'll be called Governor forever.
Hobbestetrician
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No disagreement here.
What I figured. I would think you would have to put the word 'Former' in front of it because, well, there is someone currently holding that position.
The Librarian
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ryutaro's mama
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But what does Rasmussen say?
MMmm... with 44 days to go. Time is flyin'.
I'm going to breathe much easier as soon as the first debate is over.
I hope he hits Romney with that in the debates.
Byakuya769
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It would be kind of disingenuous unless Obama has plans to tax capital gains more in line with regular rates on income. (is that what the "millionaire's tax purport to do?)
...wat
Byakuya769
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Obama cannot cry about the taxes Romney pays, unless Obama has actual policy that he will stand by that would change that tax rate and make it higher than mine.
The Librarian
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What does that have to do with his quote from Sargent's Twitter about Obama calling out Romney on war with Iran?
Byakuya769
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Haha.. umm, everything!
Yea, got the quote confused with the one from Romney's interview
el retorno
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If your talking about the 60minutes interview it was like a day after the embassy attack. He probably hadn't slept.
Aaron Strife
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Bad news for Obama?
Byakuya769
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6, 5, 4: looks like a countdown to a loss.
cartoon_soldier
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I still want to know what PD thinks about African Americans being more excited to vote than any other group.
That is one of Obama's tax proposals.
The Librarian
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Bad news for Obama. Dude's gotta lot of work to do if he wants to win by a bigger margin than 2008.
Actually, yes, he is. Maybe he's not exempt on sales taxes for the equipment, but he could file an amended tax return that includes the cost of the equipment (or in other words, lowers his net income for the year by the cost of the equipment. Revenues - expenses.)
Or he can tailor the amortization/depreciation schedule for the new equipment to minimize his taxes.
Businesses get a great deal of flexibility when it coems to taxes compared to families. If we taxed businesses like we taxed people, taxes would be on revenues, with some deductions for certain expenses (Property, Plant, and Equipment, for instance)
Aaron Strife
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The polls are misleading, they're only getting the unemployed blacks.
Everyone knows romney will win half of the black vote
If Obama gets so much as 1 vote less than he did in 2008, it's truly a victory for the Republicans.Dax01 said:
StopMakingSense
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They are only polling blacks that want to vote for Obama.
AlteredBeast
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It is a true shame that even if Democrats got control of both houses and retain the presidency, they will probably still pass on the necessary tax increases.
They will probably just got for some variation of the Buffett Rule, which will only affect a very small amount of people and do nothing for the deficit.
Here is to hoping they even just go back to 1998. That would be nice.
They will probably just got for some variation of the Buffett Rule, which will only affect a very small amount of people and do nothing for the deficit.
Here is to hoping they even just go back to 1998. That would be nice.
As terrible a politician as Romney is, I think it's clear that McCain's campaign was far more inept. He was dead broke, he had no ground game whatsoever, he did crazy old man shit, and he picked Sarah Palin. Then he got desperate, went negative, and lost anyway in a landslide.
Romney is well funded and has a much better ground game than McCain did, even if it's not a match for Obama's.
There is no way that Obama wins by more than he did in 2008. The stars aligned for him back then.
Romney is well funded and has a much better ground game than McCain did, even if it's not a match for Obama's.
There is no way that Obama wins by more than he did in 2008. The stars aligned for him back then.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Romney is making it pretty easy, though. If the country had any ounce of sense, it would be as big as/bigger than 2008. At least McCain was a seemingly honorable person at some point in his life. Shame he picked that soulless empty-headed Palin, when he could have at least taken someone honorable.
cartoon_soldier
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I wonder if the Enthusiasm gap is now favoring Obama, since PPP's FL poll is D+8 in party ID compared to D+3 in 2008?
Aaron Strife
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Apparently Republican party ID has dropped like a rock recently. I believe Obama's pollsters said they were seeing the same thing, which is why they subtract 2 from Obama's count in their internal polling.
cartoon_soldier
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According to FL breakdown, statewide Dems have a +5 advantage. Even then a +3 advantage points to higher enthusiasm in the LV model.
Their CO PDF link is broken, so can't check the breakdown there yet.
Edit: Their CO poll has to D party ID advantage. And actually the Latino ID is down -2 from 2008 exits.
SouthernDragon
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He's well funded because he personally has connections out the wazoo. This doesn't speak to his ability as a politician.
The ability to pile up stacks is definitely part of being a politician.
SouthernDragon
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Yes, but that alone doesn't make you a good one.
Aaron Strife
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Party ID matches 2008 more or less.
I seem to recall another politician making that argument
It's like his self-deportation comments, Romney really thinks he could be poor and make a million no probskis.
Romney on:
Immigration=Self-Deport
Healthcare=Emergency Room
The Poor=Self Reliance
Foreign Policy=Ignore Middle-East; it's fucked anyway
The Technomancer
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He can't honestly be that dumb can he?
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