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No, it isn't -- it does nothing of the sort. Once again, your positions are not as self-evident as you seem to think. If you wish to completely dismantle the idea that his positions are sane, you must explain why the idea that a gun's sole purpose is not to cause "devastating harm" is fundamentally insane. I suggest that this is a difficult task, since the words "sole purpose" and "devastating harm" provide pretty big warrens to run around in. I'm not saying it's the best argument in the world, but your response is lacking.
I remember the Sikh thread because it was the one in which I responded to your fundamentally silly argument that gun control prevented suicides in Japan, completely ignoring the fact that suicide methods are highly variable from country to country and dependent far more on cultural perspectives and availability than anything else -- which ignores both the fact that the number of lives potentially saved would be extremely small in any case and that suicidal people are in immediate need of mental care and that the marginal gain from preventing their suicide not by providing care and support but by denying them access to their preferred strategy is at the very least difficult to measure. I note that you ignored my response! I also want to make clear that at the time of this thread I thought Manos was a cynical jackwagon and I STILL disagreed with your argument.
Neither of those threads provides any evidence that Manos is a troll. In fact, one of them is a thread he started in which people aggressively attack him -- if anything, he's being trolled. Primarily the takeaway, I think, is that gun control debates on GAF are intensely emotional for many parties, which is not surprising but also not really a useful point to make. I actually credit Manos with providing me with the impetus to consider the question more carefully, since I previously had relatively little interest in the topic. And, frankly, I think that he's, if not necessarily completely right, correct about some flaws in the gun control legislation that exists, and correct to suggest that it is not, in the end, a higher priority for the American left than continuing the advancement of social justice and economic support, which themselves will have great and lingering effects on urban violence. (Which is already trending downwards for, I suspect, much those reasons.)
Probably 538 and RCP.
Many people predicted an Obama victory in the Spring and most everyone else has come to that conclusion over the past 2-3 weeks.
Haunted
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Thanks guys.
edit: the stats do seem to be looking pretty one-sided.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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And if they haven't, start trying to get them to bet money!
So, either the RNC is inept or they never believed they had a chance in Ohio. Or both.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politi...y-faces-uphill-battle-in-key-state/57832578/1
RoninChaos
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Oh look, it's another Jackpot sniper post where he posts a couple random quotes and tries to massage it into a cohesive thought. Then magically disappears once challenged on it.
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the topic of guns made me think of this...
I see that billboard on the way to work in the mornings. They aren't the first folks around here to offer a gun when you buy a diamond either.
Any numbers on other states they've dumped money into? I know Ohio has been slipping away these last months, but electorally it makes no sense at all to fully give up on it.
Right. The audacity to offer that as a prescription is risible. And it's been a pillar of his campaign. I want to criticize Obama for being weak, yet I lack a substantive alternative, so rhetoric. And I hope Obama continues to press him on this point.
Did you hear Ann Romney's admonition of those criticizing Mitt? We should be grateful Mitt is running. They reek of entitlement.
It doesn't. Undecideds are breaking for Obama. Romney will assuredly lose this fight.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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I wonder what gun it is? Assuming they aren't giving out cheap 22 bolt actions, and if that's still not cheap, that's a pretty sizable prize...unless it's spend 1500K or more and get a...I dunno Savages are cheap, but still not that cheap.
Believe me, I am grateful. Although on consideration, if he hadn't run, things might be even more amazing with one of the other primary contenders at the helm.
Yeah, no. Here, I've transcribed the conversation.
The video said:
At no point does she state she's only registering Republicans, despite what the woman filming it accuses her of. She also pretty fucking clearly does not actually work for the county clerk's office, she has absolutely no idea who's paying her. Where do you live that the county clerk's office fields people to hang outside grocery stores to register people?
This is just some girl who probably answered an ad promising to pay $10/hr for registering people to vote/sign a petition (They're frequently the same outfits, since your petition signature is only valid if you're a registered voter, hence the petition people will always have voter registration forms), and only gets paid for Republican registrations, hence she says she's trying to register Republicans. She's just some anonymous cog of what passes for the GOP ground game who probably didn't have a firm grasp on the rules and got flustered when pressed for details.
Have they ever disclosed the methodology for generating these numbers?
speculawyer
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http://news.yahoo.com/reince-priebus-last-week-good-gop-173227447--abc-news-topstories.html
I know you always want to accentuate the positive for your guy . . . but when you say something like this, you just seem like a crazy out-of-touch with reality person.
You expect self reflection from a Prince?
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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How do you pronounce his name? It seems almost like something from an Anime trying to make up a Prussian sounding name for some 23rd Century Space Opera. Yeah it's a Legend of the Galactic Heroes reference, but I'm think of the really bad examples we've all seen...shit it's most likely on TV Tropes.
Bel Marduk
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Well, it would be very difficult to forecast house races. There's so many of them and the polling has been very scant in all but a few.
Well it's not like they can come out and say how they really feel about it...
cartoon_soldier
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NC Civitias is a conservative thingy
cartoon_soldier
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Bel Marduk
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Very nice!! 50% or over in each!! I think we can call this race now.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
THE TRUE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE said:
Basically, they reweight all the polls on the assumption that 40% of the voters are conservative and 38% of the voters are Republican. Unsurprisingly, given the polarization of the electorate and of self-identified conservative Republicans in general, this leads to huge leads for Romney. By comparison, Public Policy Polling found that self-described Democrats currently outnumber self-identified Republicans in Florida by 8 percent. This is why these people claim that every single poll is heavily skewed -- because they've all been showing self-identified Democrats well above par, therefore they must all have bad samples, every single one.
Pew did an article recently about how reputable pollsters cannot, and do not, weight by party identification, because it fluctuates constantly and there's no solid baseline to compare it to. There is one popular pollster that does claim to weight by party identification, though -- it's Rasmussen.
For more on the exciting nonpartisan methodology of poll unskewing, I recommend this article: http://www.examiner.com/article/nov...-will-be-a-real-shocker-for-liberal-democrats
WHAT THE MEDIA DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW said:
edit: Just saw cartoon soldier's poll results. Okay, so yeah. Should we switch to talking about policy now?
cartoon_soldier
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No, you can't call any race now.
Hm. Michigan being a swing state might be real.
rye-n-ce pre-bus
Also I still find it funny that if you swap the first two letters of his first and last name it spells this:
Reince Priebus
Prince Reiebus
Remember when you thought romney would smartly come back to the center?
I think it's a given that they are inept. At one point everyone thought Romney at least had a chance in ohio although he squandered that opportunity pretty fast.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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LOL That is kind of humorous, man what a weird ass name.
He's white though, so it's okay.
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Also PPP is also from North Carolina, which is more that the "rival" thing is about.
No. Nonononononono. Don't consider this race won until election night.
That, and they seem to have zero respect for them.
"@ppppolls
Haha we are a polling company, they are not, don't really consider them a peer"
"@ppppolls
What's funny is we have built a profitable business with many clients, while they are largely funded by a single sugar daddy"
Remember when you thought romney would smartly come back to the center?
I think it's a given that they are inept. At one point everyone thought Romney at least had a chance in ohio although he squandered that opportunity pretty fast.
I wouldn't be so offended by Romney had he ran on his past positions or didn't try to run away from everything in his past. He obviously has no convictions and is nothing more than an opportunist who feels entitled to this position. He tells whoever is around him at the time what they want to hear and seems to forget that we have tools to document these incidents.
lol Ouch.
Baraka in the White House
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I like what Colbert had to say about it. It's like the intelligible gibberish a drunk guy would blurt out.
Which is, ironically, how Priebus talks.
Thingy? Come on.
The We Ask America poll also estimates Baldwin is leading Thompson 52-40. It's probably well above the average. Nonetheless, Baldwin is clearly winning now.
TacticalFox88
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Dems are riding Obama's coatails.
and I'm okay with that.
and I'm okay with that.
Learn2read
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I like how Charles Pierce's blog always refer's to him as "obvious anagram Reince Priebus"
cartoon_soldier
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I have been living in NC for 6+ years now and have no fucking clue what they do.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Remember when you thought romney would smartly come back to the center?
That would have been the logical thing to do, and the only way he had a chance to win.
Well I think we know now that romney is anything but logical.
The Librarian
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I've been living in NC for 16 years and I didn't know about them.
It's what a smart candidate would do, but when you're pushing the ambulance as a viable option when you don't have health care line six weeks from election day in a general election, logic obviously isn't one of your strong suits.
I still can't believe he actually said that, how out of touch do you have to be to think that way?
The fact that this race is competitive in North Carolina instead of, say, Michigan, pretty much says all that needs to about which way this election is going to go.
I want to see more House analysis. That's the only election that matters now.
Damn right.
I want to see more House analysis. That's the only election that matters now.
Damn right.
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