RustyNails
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Goddamit PD stop tickling my tummy
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PoliGAF 2012 |OT3| If it's not a legitimate OT the mods have ways to shut it down
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David Incorporated Esq.
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Yes. This shit drives me nuts. Say there are 10 people and they all want to go to different restaurants, one of them decides they are going to a spicy Indian place. Maybe three of those ten people want to go there but three people want mild Indian food and three other people want extra spicy Indian food. Saying that 60% of those people aren't happy with the restaurant means fucking nothing.
It's just like that media poll where it asked if people trust the media and 60% said "no". It's a combination of a million factors but, on its face, it's really that right-wingers have been taught by FXN to distrust regular news networks and left-wingers recognize that the most popular news network of them all is a right-wing propaganda channel. It doesn't tell you a fucking thing about why, it just says that people are grumpy about something.
For the record, wasn't that wrong track number something like 80% before Obama got elected?
Date: 12/5-8/08 Right Track: 26% Wrong Track: 60% Mixed:10% Unsure: 4%
11/1-2/08 Right Track: 11% Wrong Track: 76% Mixed: 10% Unsure: 3%
There was a 15% uptick in right track and 15% downtick on Wrong Track polling after Obama got elected. In Oct 2008 the Wrong track number peaked at 78%. It's now, according to WSJ Polls at 55%
Date: 12/5-8/08 Right Track: 26% Wrong Track: 60% Mixed:10% Unsure: 4%
11/1-2/08 Right Track: 11% Wrong Track: 76% Mixed: 10% Unsure: 3%
There was a 15% uptick in right track and 15% downtick on Wrong Track polling after Obama got elected. In Oct 2008 the Wrong track number peaked at 78%. It's now, according to WSJ Polls at 55%
Sort of the same thing with Obamacare. Depending on the wording I could answer negatively about it (since I want single-payer), but that doesn't mean I'd like to just up and get rid of it.
Black Mamba
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Yeah, I had a discussion about this with a Republican and how he was like "but most people say the country is heading in the wrong direction."
I told him they're right to an extent. The problem has been the Republicans in Congress putting politics over good policy. Just because people think the direction is wrong doesn't mean they think the Republicans offer the right direction or even the less wrong direction.
Anyway:
"We're fucked, aren't we."
Romney's almost certainly (nothing is certain this year) going to get a bump in the polls. But as Obama's crossed 50 in many swing states, it's not enough for Romney to get people to see him as Presidential. He must convince people who have already elected (heyo) to vote for Obama to change their minds. So far he's shown a singular inability to do so -- probably because he has yet to come up with any criticisms of Obama's Presidency that they believe.
And Obama's up more than 3.7. Even if Romney does pick up a full four points from the debate, you can knock that figure off of Obama's recent polls in all the swing states and he'll still win. Probably in a landslide.
ClassyPenguin
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Romney and Ryan both seem like caricatures.
eeny peeny piny pick, catch a tiger by his penis
PhoenixDark
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eznark alert
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/09/so_long_tommy.php?ref=fpblg
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/09/so_long_tommy.php?ref=fpblg
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Welp.
oh hey, the first debate will be on my birthday. can't believe that's next week
i'll officially be in my late-20s :\
Wow ha ha ha ha
If it's any consolation, I found the late-20s/early-30s a good time in life.
And for a politics junkie, that's a pretty sweet birthday present!
el retorno
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lulz
eBay Huckster
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Wow. Where's eznark?
Sonofabitch, just realized the first debate is on a Wednesday. Guess I get to miss it 
Woops...
Woops...
I see this playing well for Thompson. He's committed and he expresses his values. People are really worried about the deficit and Obama has done nothing to deal with it in four years. They'll react well to...
to...
I can't do it. How do you do it, PD?
Isn't this Ryan's plan, anyway?
googleplex
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Stop son...you'll hurt yourself. Leave PoliGaf trolling to the professionals like PD.
Yes, but people don't tend to actually like Ryan's plan when it's explained to them. A poll from Marquette came out earlier that hit upon this and said that Wisconsin does not support that plan. They want Medicare the way it is now. Also, it really doesn't help that Tommy explains it so sinister and uses the same charge the democrats have been trying to throw at the Republicans, that the plan would end Medicare.
Yes, yes it is.
Officerrob
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Holy crap....LOL
I seriously can't believe they're simultaneously running on "We need to end medicare, because it's going to be bankrupt anyway" and "The other guy took some money out of Medicare, vote for us!"
Even if you get more specific on the plans, it then comes down to "Fuck you (under 55), got mine (over 55)." It's insane.
speculawyer
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Mexican Mitt Romneez ‏@MexicanMitt
TO MY DEAR FOLLOWERS: PARDON THE ESTENCH. OPEN A WINDOW. ON A PLANE.
TO MY DEAR FOLLOWERS: PARDON THE ESTENCH. OPEN A WINDOW. ON A PLANE.
speculawyer
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Between this and the Packer's call, I suspect he is in a dark place.
googleplex
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And they've got only themselves to blame. Burn the entire GOP down to the ground, and let something much more sane grow in its place.
Black Mamba
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NullPointer
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Smores anyone? nom nom nom
Byakuya769
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Link Man - Liar of the Year!
cartoon_soldier
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What say you GAF?
Question for Mormon/Ex-Mormon PoliGAF: How is the Romney campaign viewed within the LDS church and community? I recall listening to some story on NPR ages ago that had a snippet of an interview with a Mormon Romney primary caucus supporter who mentioned that LDS viewed the founding fathers with religious reverence or something. Is the ascent of a Mormon president (well, maybe next time one runs, 'cause it sure as hell isn't happening this time) viewed as some degree of prophecy fulfillment?
jamesinclair
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Bad news for Obama?
The same thing could happen to him.
You're not PD.
Hahaha, I saw that. God damn, that graph is unreal.
Aaron Strife
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But Obama's already in the lead.
She'll probably lose a decent amount of that, since they're hammering her pretty goddamned hard right now. With the ammo she has from Thompson, though, she should be able to negate that gain if she plays it right.
He's also been campaigning for 6 years but somehow managed to bungle that.
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