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PoliGAF 2012 |OT3| If it's not a legitimate OT the mods have ways to shut it down

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PhoenixDark

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Vahagn said:
The only age group Obama lost in 2008 was 65+ - and that was rather close considering, you know, black and all. Romney has proven himself less qualified and able to be President then McCain and there will be no coming back from the 47% comments. There's nothing he can do to right this ship. His only prayer is an external event or scandel to break before election.


If on the other hand we get an october surprise of "The US thwarted another terror attack on our home soil" (which would be classic Rovian tactics) then obama has the thing in the bag.
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I readily admit the 47% comment was fatal, especially with early voting going on right now. Romney needs to handily win the first debate - which I'm beginning to think is possible - and get lucky with a scandal or real bad news cycle for Obama. I'd imagine republicans have been searching for one for years though. It reminds me of that scene in Malcolm X where the FBI is listening to him talk to his wife, and one of the agents says "compared to King, this guy is a monk." Unless Obama is some master of deception I can't see him being dumb enough to cheat on his wife. Michelle does seem a bit cold to me, and obviously Obama has tons of options outside of her if he wanted...but he doesn't strike me as that type of guy.

In terms of Rovian foreign policy, I bet Obama has the CIA trying to find or kill Al-Zawahiri like crazy. It would be hilarious if they got him and Obama announced it at the start of the foreign policy debate.
 
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polyh3dron

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daedalius said:
motherofgod.gif

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004346171663

Its... Kosmo's facebook page.
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The crescent and star are a nice touch lol
 
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The Librarian

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Tamanon, Hito, or any other NCer: Did NC relax its absentee voting laws since 2010? I remember I had to photocopy an ID to fill out an absentee ballot in 2010, but from what I can find, that doesn't seem to be necessary anymore.
 
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BertramCooper

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The hilarious thing about Rush's vitriol today is that he kept saying, "What could have possibly happened in the past two weeks that could have caused this? I refuse to believe it." (Or something to that effect.)

What a fucking genius.

But then again, we're talking about the guy who said that Romney's fundraiser comments would end up being a boon to his campaign.
 
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Aaron Strife

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RDreamer said:
I hope polling gets so bad for Romney even unskewed goes off the rails and shows an Obama win.
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Our own polling models have turned against us!

The same logic UnSkew uses is the same logic as some dumbass tea partier on the street, all his friends are voting for Romney, how can that Muslim socialist win?
 
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ToxicAdam

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Same as it ever was ...

a new report by the Health Care Cost Institute that shows “Spending for private health insurance surged by 4.6 percent in 2011… faster than the rest of the economy and higher than the previous year, which had 3.8 percent growth.”

“That statistic suggests that a recent downturn in health-care spending may have been a temporary product of the recession rather than a more permanent change, as some health-care economists have hoped… The cost of professional procedures, such as doctor visits, rose 3.3 percent, while prescription drugs spiked by 17.7 percent
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http://www.healthcostinstitute.org/2011report
 
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googleplex

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PhoenixDark said:
Unless Obama is some master of deception I can't see him being dumb enough to cheat on his wife. []B Michelle does seem a bit cold to me, and obviously Obama has tons of options outside of her if he wanted[/B] ...but he doesn't strike me as that type of guy.
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What in the blue hell are you talking about? Cold? Michelle Obama seems like the most approachable, down-to-earth First Lady in recent memory.

Come on son...
 
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PhoenixDark

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googleplex said:
What in the blue hell are you talking about? Cold? Michelle Obama seems like the most approachable, down-to-earth First Lady in recent memory.

Come on son...
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I mean intimately, even sexually. I'm sure she loves Obama to a degree, but their relationship seems somewhat one sided to me when you look at how she acts whenever they're together. He's always the one reminding her of romantic stuff they did in the past and she goes "ahh yes," he's way more animated, etc. It's like the cheerleader in highschool semi-dating the guy who does her homework

Given Obama's attraction to people who don't like him, and his history of trying to make people love him, it's not particularly surprising.
 
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codhand

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Rush is great today. "I'm right 99.7 percent of the time, if I'm right about these polls I'll move up to being right 99.9 percent of the time."

lol
 
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cartoon_soldier

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GhaleonEB said:
Gallup is back to 50-44, Obama approval at 51-43.

I'm enjoying this.

Edit: *shakes fist*
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Beaten again! lol

PhoenixDark said:
I mean intimately, even sexually. I'm sure she loves Obama to a degree, but their relationship seems somewhat one sided to me when you look at how she acts whenever they're together. He's always the one reminding her of romantic stuff they did in the past and she goes "ahh yes," he's way more animated, etc. It's like the cheerleader in highschool semi-dating the guy who does her homework

Given Obama's attraction to people who don't like him, and his history of trying to make people love him, it's not particularly surprising.
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This is on the level of your Obama psych analysis you did earlier this year. lol.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/12/09/the-coming-romney-comeback-narrative/262876/

If there's one thing the media won't tolerate for long, it's an unchanging media narrative. So the current story of the presidential campaign -- Obama sits on a lead that is modest but increasingly comfortable, thanks to a hapless Romney and a hapless Romney campaign -- should be yielding any moment to something fresher.
The essential property of the new narrative is that it inject new drama into the race, which means it has to be in some sense pro-Romney. This can in turn mean finding previously unappreciated assets in Romney or his campaign, previously undetected vulnerabilities in the Obama campaign, etc. The big question is whether the new narrative then becomes self-fulfilling, altering the focus of coverage in a way that actually increases Romney's chances of a victory.
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Thagomizer

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pigeon said:
New Hampshire state motto: LIVE FREE OR DIE

New England basically sorts itself. If you're a sleazy banker, Delaware; if you want a super nice house, Rhode Island; if you're Irish, Massachusetts; if you kind of wish you were Canadian, Vermont; if you hate seat belt laws, New Hampshire (the last state to mandate them). They have no income or sales tax. They were selected for the Free State Project. They've always had libertarian tendencies.
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No one cares about Maine :(


EDIT: PD what the hell man
 
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gcubed

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PhoenixDark said:
I mean intimately, even sexually. I'm sure she loves Obama to a degree, but their relationship seems somewhat one sided to me when you look at how she acts whenever they're together. He's always the one reminding her of romantic stuff they did in the past and she goes "ahh yes," he's way more animated, etc. It's like the cheerleader in highschool semi-dating the guy who does her homework

Given Obama's attraction to people who don't like him, and his history of trying to make people love him, it's not particularly surprising.
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Some of your finest work!
 
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Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Dax01 said:
Tamanon, Hito, or any other NCer: Did NC relax its absentee voting laws since 2010? I remember I had to photocopy an ID to fill out an absentee ballot in 2010, but from what I can find, that doesn't seem to be necessary anymore.
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That would pretty counterintuitive since Republicans have controlled the NC state legislature since 2010.
 
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pigeon

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PhoenixDark said:
I mean intimately, even sexually. I'm sure she loves Obama to a degree, but their relationship seems somewhat one sided to me when you look at how she acts whenever they're together. He's always the one reminding her of romantic stuff they did in the past and she goes "ahh yes," he's way more animated, etc. It's like the cheerleader in highschool semi-dating the guy who does her homework

Given Obama's attraction to people who don't like him, and his history of trying to make people love him, it's not particularly surprising.
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You are so weird.
 
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David Incorporated Esq.

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PhoenixDark said:
I mean intimately, even sexually. I'm sure she loves Obama to a degree, but their relationship seems somewhat one sided to me when you look at how she acts whenever they're together. He's always the one reminding her of romantic stuff they did in the past and she goes "ahh yes," he's way more animated, etc. It's like the cheerleader in highschool semi-dating the guy who does her homework

Given Obama's attraction to people who don't like him, and his history of trying to make people love him, it's not particularly surprising.
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I love you so much right now.
 
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polyh3dron

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PhoenixDark said:
I mean intimately, even sexually. I'm sure she loves Obama to a degree, but their relationship seems somewhat one sided to me when you look at how she acts whenever they're together. He's always the one reminding her of romantic stuff they did in the past and she goes "ahh yes," he's way more animated, etc. It's like the cheerleader in highschool semi-dating the guy who does her homework

Given Obama's attraction to people who don't like him, and his history of trying to make people love him, it's not particularly surprising.
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what the fuck am i reading

seriously now that the polls are in his favor you have to resort to this
 
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Forever

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PD is right though Obama is totally attracted to people who don't like him. Let me excerpt the epilogue of Game Change:

It’s not going to work, an anguished Hillary told him. I can’t do it. It was a long, hard campaign, and I’m exhausted. ... I’m tired of being punched around; I feel like a pinata. I want to go home. I’ve had enough of this. You don’t want me, you don’t want all these stories about you and me. You don’t want the whole circus. It’s not good for you, and it’s not good for me. I just can’t do this.

Hillary, look, you’re exactly right, Obama said. Those are all real concerns, they’re all real problems, and it’s fair and legitimate for you to raise them. And the truth is, there’s really nothing I can do about them. But ... I need someone I don’t need to worry about. I need someone I can trust implicitly, and you’re that person.

Hillary raised a matter far more intimate than her personal reluctance. You know my husband, she said. You’ve seen what happens. ... You know I can’t control him, and at some point he’ll be a problem.

I know, Obama replied. But I’m prepared to take that risk. You’re worth it. Your country needs you. I need you. I need you to do this.
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That conversation actually happened. Romney better bank on the Hillary and Barack scandal breaking.
 
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TacticalFox88

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PhoenixDark said:
I mean intimately, even sexually. I'm sure she loves Obama to a degree, but their relationship seems somewhat one sided to me when you look at how she acts whenever they're together. He's always the one reminding her of romantic stuff they did in the past and she goes "ahh yes," he's way more animated, etc. It's like the cheerleader in highschool semi-dating the guy who does her homework

Given Obama's attraction to people who don't like him, and his history of trying to make people love him, it's not particularly surprising.
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Wolfgunblood Garopa

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PhoenixDark said:
I mean intimately, even sexually. I'm sure she loves Obama to a degree, but their relationship seems somewhat one sided to me when you look at how she acts whenever they're together. He's always the one reminding her of romantic stuff they did in the past and she goes "ahh yes," he's way more animated, etc. It's like the cheerleader in highschool semi-dating the guy who does her homework

Given Obama's attraction to people who don't like him, and his history of trying to make people love him, it's not particularly surprising.
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Joke's on us for reading this fucking thread.
 
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Vahagn

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Michelle seems to me to be an intelligent, loving, strong black woman. And definitely classy.


The Romney's seem so damn entitled. "we're richer than you because we worked harder than you, and because we're such hard workers we deserve to be in the white house".

Nevermind that Ann Romney never had a job, and Mitt, while a brilliant businessman, is a cold hearted selfish asshole.

And, yes, I have a passionate dislike for him now, as I would anyone who thought because I'm part of the democratic base that I don't care for my life or take personal responsibility for myself.
 
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cartoon_soldier

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Nate knows PPP as an automated pollster has been very accurate, even predicting races that nobody else would. Why the fuck would he tweet that article about them cheating?
 
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Trouble

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Forever said:
PD is right though Obama is totally attracted to people who don't like him. Let me excerpt the epilogue of Game Change:


That conversation actually happened. Romney better bank on the Hillary and Barack scandal breaking.
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What scandal? Obama turning a rivals into strong allies isn't exactly a scandal.
 
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Cloudy

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox...ssett_now_says_romney_may_not_cut_taxes_.html

A fatal ambiguity has been hanging over Mitt Romney's pledge to reduce income tax rates and pay for it by eliminating deductions without doing anything to increase the tax burden on the middle class. The problem is that this is mathematically impossible. To get the rate reductions Romney has promised, you either have to increase the deficit or have to increase the tax burden on the middle class. It just can't be done otherwise.

So which did Romney have in mind? Well, now campaign adviser Kevin Hassett says neither, arguing that if Romney's math doesn't add up (and it doesn't), he just won't cut rates that much: "If you think the base-broadeners don’t add up, if you think he can’t get to 28 percent, then the right thing that would happen, as you know, if you’re going to have a revenue-neutral reform, is that they would have a different change in rates."

In other words, we now have three different versions of the Romney tax proposal existing in quantum superposition. In Version 1, we do the full rate cuts and have no decrease in government revenues because we make up the difference with higher taxes on the middle class. This is the least politically palatable but the best long-term growth policy. In Version 2, we do what Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush would do and slash tax rates mostly without offsets. The result is a big increase in the budget deficit, which I think is the best short-term growth policy. In Hassett's version, you stick to the promise of revenue neutrality and stick to the no-tax-hikes-on-the-middle-class pledge, and in that case you ... just don't do much of anything. Obviously not changing things is a pretty politically workable proposal. And since the Obama administration is proposing higher taxes than the status quo, there's still disagreement between the candidates.

But these three Romney policies are each totally different! I don't expect presidential candidates to tell us exactly what will happen if they win—Congress gets a say, and the future is always cloudy. But they should be able to give us some indication of the direction they intend to go.
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This is unreal at this stage of the campaign. They totally expected the economy to beat Obama and seemingly have no real policy proposals yet
 
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reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
If Obama takes North Carolina:

Code: 
Purple Strategies 		9/19 	48.0 	46.0 	Obama +2.0
National Research 		9/19 	49.0 	45.0 	Obama +4.0
High Point University 		9/18 	48.0 	44.0 	Obama +4.0
YouGov 				9/14 	44.0 	45.0 	Romney +1.0
Rasmussen 			9/13 	45.0 	51.0 	Romney +6.0
PPP 				9/9 	49.0 	48.0 	Obama +1.0

Does he win with similar margins as in '08?

538 has Romney winning it with a 67% chance, for right now.
 
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