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PoliGAF 2012 |OT3| If it's not a legitimate OT the mods have ways to shut it down

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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
early voting line at a location in Iowa this morning..

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keep your eye out for the club wielding black panthers...

What the crap, long lines for early voting.. why?
 

pigeon

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This ad made me laugh for some reason, I'm sure its effective but there's not really a message there. Its just "look what Mitt Romney said". I was expecting a rebuttal at the end but I guess the Obama camp just wants this audio out there more.

Well, the message is in the juxtaposition -- "these are the 47% he's talking about -- single moms, veterans, factory workers." Kuleshov effect, Chicago style.

But, yeah, I mean. Unfortunately for the Romney campaign, Romney speaks for himself.
 

GhaleonEB

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Well, the message is in the juxtaposition -- "these are the 47% he's talking about -- single moms, veterans, factory workers." Kuleshov effect, Chicago style.

But, yeah, I mean. Unfortunately for the Romney campaign, Romney speaks for himself.

Yup. It's simply pointing out who Romney is talking about. His remarks require little interpretation, and send a pretty strong message on their own.
Didn't the Romney camp already say the unedited clip was taken out of context? Back when it was originally posted by Mother Jones.

They tried, yes. Because the two half-hour segments have a 1-2 minute gap between them when the recording device turned off. No one bought it, though, and they won't here.

Edit: it occurs to me that there is a second juxtaposition with the video. Romney is running the ad where he looks right into the camera and talks about how much he cares about the poor. So the Obama camp is replaying his words verbatim to counter that, contrasting what Romney says in public with what he says in private. They're running in pretty much the same states, IIRC.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
OK I just saw this video where Mitt is now touting Romneycare again... What the hell man, get your positions straight.

Gotta remember this is quantum Romney we are talking about.
 
Hey I was in a parking lot at a store and it was filled to the brim with cars with Romeny Bumper stickers recently.

It was a Gun Store

I wonder what the gun show next weekend will be like, anyone want me to take pics
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I'm just a lurker here mostly but I'd like to see you take pics at the gun show. Should be worth a few laughs.
 

Zzoram

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This level of delusion and hate can only end in violence.

It will.

Remember when the GOP were regularly putting bullseyes on DNC campaign HQs and Dem Rep. faces early after Obama's election? Then someone shot Giffords in the head and they finally stopped, although they never admitted that they were inciting violence.



I'm surprised that all the violence baiting by the GOP with constant talk of "revolution", "government is coming to take your guns by force", and "we need to take back this country (from the minorities)" hasn't incited more violence yet. Maybe it's because people were hoping Obama would just lose the election and go away.
 
I'm just a lurker here mostly but I'd like to see you take pics at the gun show. Should be worth a few laughs.

Yeah the political stuff is goofy, but luckily at the one I'm going to it's mostly good stuff for sale, notwithstanding the tacky t-shirts, bumper stickers, or iodine tablets (though that guy always has great deals on 223 and 45ACP). It's a lot of fun if you've never been to one, it's almost like going to a museum..since one guy is always trying to sell his STG-44, and one guy had a transferable MP5 and we chatted about movie guns and prop houses. I'd say the cool and useful stuff outweighs the crap tables 10 to 1 if not more.


I'm going to go on a limb and guess that it'll involve guns.
Yes...but you quoted the wrong one. lol
 
It will.

Remember when the GOP were regularly putting bullseyes on DNC campaign HQs and Dem Rep. faces early after Obama's election? Then someone shot Giffords in the head and they finally stopped, although they never admitted that they were inciting violence.
Except in that case it didn't. Jared was really just bonkers about grammar. It was devoid of any real political connection.
 

Zzoram

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It strikes me as laying the foundation for justifying vote suppression. IE if it's ok for democrats to fake poll results and run negative ads, it's perfectly ok to purge people from voter rolls and check IDs!

That actually makes sense. Voter suppression is quite vile so there needs to be some way for people to justify their support of it.
 

Veritas_

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This is the best possible use of the audio clip, IMO. No need to slice and dice - just play it, from now through election day. Very smart ad.

And there's no way Romney's camp can complain about being taken out of context or whatever, there are no edits: just the entire segment.

Yup. The shot of "Believe they are entitled" over the veterans is just brutal.
 

Forever

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It will.

Remember when the GOP were regularly putting bullseyes on DNC campaign HQs and Dem Rep. faces early after Obama's election? Then someone shot Giffords in the head and they finally stopped, although they never admitted that they were inciting violence.



I'm surprised that all the violence baiting by the GOP with constant talk of "revolution", "government is coming to take your guns by force", and "we need to take back this country (from the minorities)" hasn't incited more violence yet. Maybe it's because people were hoping Obama would just lose the election and go away.

Manos will protect us with his arsenal.
 

Cheebo

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It strikes me as laying the foundation for justifying vote suppression. IE if it's ok for democrats to fake poll results and run negative ads, it's perfectly ok to purge people from voter rolls and check IDs!

When you think about it it makes no sense. Who pays attention to poll results? Political junkies. The very type of people who will always vote no matter what. The wishy-washy voters who might skip presidential elections aren't going to be reading up on the latest poll results and refreshing Gallup every day.
 
I wonder how easy it'd be to make a Greasemonkey script that actually replaces his posts with that text.

(Probably easier than winning a presidential election with equal funding against the current Republican Party!)
It's going to make the non-gun threads look funny, especially since I would think it wouldn't work on the thread title. lol

At this point, I just read Manos posts as:
Hey, what can I say I find economics boring...and besides not everything I post is about guns. lol Really lets look at the first page that comes up from find threads post by me. It may seem like it's all I post about, but it's not. lol


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ToxicAdam

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PA? At this point in the game?

He's run out of Ohio cities and towns to visit? I would imagine the Obama campaign is going to run into the same problem towards the end.



Speaking of Ohio, I received 4 political-related calls just yesterday. Upping my total to 7 since Sunday night. This election is going to suck.
 
It will.

Remember when the GOP were regularly putting bullseyes on DNC campaign HQs and Dem Rep. faces early after Obama's election? Then someone shot Giffords in the head and they finally stopped, although they never admitted that they were inciting violence.



I'm surprised that all the violence baiting by the GOP with constant talk of "revolution", "government is coming to take your guns by force", and "we need to take back this country (from the minorities)" hasn't incited more violence yet. Maybe it's because people were hoping Obama would just lose the election and go away.

Giffords' shooting had nothing to do with right wing vitriol but I agree with your general point.

I've asked it many times: when you argue someone is a threat to America, doesn't understand or like America, sympathizes with our enemies, is a threat unseen before...what exactly are you saying? You are basically saying the president is a domestic threat, and there are tons of fringe people out there who hear that and firmly believe it; to make matters worse, there are very mainstream republicans who are giving legitimacy to these ideas.

Presidents are pretty safe in modern times due to Secret Service but congress folk don't have that security. If dems win big again what's to stop some people from determining that the only way to "save America" is through violence? And of course if that happens the next step will become "now they're trying to use this to take away our guns!" It's a never ending cycle. Luckily it's been rather tame over the last 4 years, but in the 90s we saw multiple cases of right wing violence.
 

Forever

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I wonder how much of Obama's boost in the polls over the last week or two has been directly due to the 47% shit.

If dems win big again what's to stop some people from determining that the only way to "save America" is through violence?

If the country didn't fall apart during desegregation I think we'll survive this, even if there are some rough patches. The FBI and such are on our side.
 

reilo

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Nate Silver said:
Wednesday’s national polls seemed to support the notion that Mr. Obama has a clear lead in the race. The Gallup national tracking poll gave Mr. Obama a six-point lead among registered voters, close to his high mark on the year in that survey. The online tracking poll conducted by Ipsos gave him a six-point lead among likely voters. Another online tracking poll, from the RAND Corporation, put Mr. Obama’s lead at roughly seven and a half percentage points, his largest of the year in that poll. And a national poll for Bloomberg produced by the pollster J. Ann Selzer, who has a strong track record, put Mr. Obama six points ahead.

The exception was the Rasmussen Reports tracking poll, which gave Mitt Romney a two-point lead among likely voters.

:lol
 

KingGondo

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He's run out of Ohio cities and towns to visit? I would imagine the Obama campaign is going to run into the same problem towards the end.

Speaking of Ohio, I received 4 political-related calls just yesterday. Upping my total to 7 since Sunday night. This election is going to suck.
On one hand, it sucks that my vote is so meaningless since Oklahoma would vote for Hitler over Obama... On the other hand, at least I won't be bombarded by insane amounts of ads before election day.

reilo said:
Rasmussen's methodology makes the BCS computer polls look sound.
 

ToxicAdam

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I wonder how much of Obama's boost in the polls over the last week or two has been directly due to the 47% shit.
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I wouldn't make too much of it. The Romney campaign has been outspent (early on), out-campaigned (in the swing states) and had a tremendous amount of negative coverage leading up to that point.

Plus all the information I had seen said that most of the 'undecideds' were lean Obama. So, as they come around it was bound to help him.
 
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