No, I was saying I doubted that his one 47% remark was the reason, but rather it was a culmination of events.
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No, I was saying I doubted that his one 47% remark was the reason, but rather it was a culmination of events.
cartoon_soldier
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So we may have added 386k more jobs than originally thought...
http://www.bls.gov/ces/cesprelbmk.htm
If I am reading this correctly, it would send UE rate below 8%?
http://www.bls.gov/ces/cesprelbmk.htm
If I am reading this correctly, it would send UE rate below 8%?
polyh3dron
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Republicans will just say that more people just stopped looking for work.
PhoenixDark
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What is this, the "she was wearing suggestive clothing!" rape defense?
Dude Abides
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"The Clintons are racist!"
In this case, actually, they aren't revising on late survey information -- the new data is the actual unemployment tax records for that fiscal year, which is more or less as definitive as you can get in terms of data.
Yeah, guys, please don't make me defend PD here. There was definitely some unpleasant sexism in the Democratic primaries and the general, just as there was racism then and in Obama's term. I mean, I hope we wouldn't disagree that there was lots of racism all over the place.
Rocket Scientist
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Does everyone who votes for the president also vote for the senate/house or do you pick and choose what to vote for? Is there an option to just ''pick x party for all positions'''?
I remember seeing on the news people in line for voting. There was a guy with a monkey doll with an Obama pin on it and he proudly said he was voting for McCain on TV. No shame.
It's weird to me how liberals are so defensive over anything that could potentially be seen as racist, but sexism is just fine with many of them.
Neither Obama nor any of his staffers said anything like that. But as a matter of fact, Bill and Hillary did use race a lot in their pitches to superdelegates and this is well documented as the main reason Kennedy endorsed Obama. I don't believe that the Clintons are or ever were racist. It is, however, fact that they did try to exploit race in 2008.
Many states (mine included) have what they call "straight party voting," which allows you to tick one box and vote for every member of that particular party.
You're not required to cast a vote in every race, as far as I know.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Umm you might want to check out his wiki page, it wasn't just the 2010 Love Child..
I honestly don't remember I never saw pictures only heard things second hand.
It's a really smart defense when you put it like that. lol In the end apparently Bill was very equal opportunity...though god man what the hell made you look at Paula Jones and go...yep smang that.
Yeah there's an option to vote straight Democrat or straight Republican for everything.
polyh3dron
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wait what?
Palin was and still is a dumbshit retard.
My gawd ain't I sexist for saying that...
Dude Abides
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"They never said that, but even if they did, the Clintons totally are racist!"
The campaign had an internal memo that said that.
I like that you ignored the rest of my post.
This is not a matter of dispute, it is not subjective. The Clintons did exploit race in 2008. That is what happened.
In WV there's a "Choose all X party candidates" thing at the beginning of the ballot and you can go through and make sure that all your selections have been made properly or you can change your vote for whatever race before you finally submit it.
Palin's retardedness had nothing to do with being a woman, and everything to being a strong proponent of anti-intellectualism.
Obama and the Clintons seem to be buddies now so that's long settled. If Obama finishes 2016 as a popular president, I could see him campaigning for Hilary 2016.
Obama and the Clintons seem to be buddies now so that's long settled. If Obama finishes 2016 as a popular president, I could see him campaigning for Hilary 2016.
So I was wondering why the BLS figures were not revised to reflect the benchmark update. The key is in the wording:
So "officially", for now, the jobs numbers were not revised and Obama's net record is still negative. It matters little other than for making that one tiny distinction, but it was one I was wondering about.
So this is basically a preview of where the annual revisions are tracking to. But they won't be pushed into the official BLS job estimates yet; that is done once a year, in January, when the full prior year data is revised.
So "officially", for now, the jobs numbers were not revised and Obama's net record is still negative. It matters little other than for making that one tiny distinction, but it was one I was wondering about.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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My Dad used to joke that his father would always pull Democratic even if Hitler had been on the ballot. lol I wonder what stats on straight party votes over time would be (even the data was even around)?
Dude Abides
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Apparently you edited.
Seems like we agree, the Obama campaign pushed the Clintons are racist theme and Obama fans believed it, and apparently continue to believe it four years on.
So this:
Didn't happen? Show me your documentation of the Obama campaign pushing a concerted Clintons-are-racist strategy.
The Clintons tried to exploit race in 2008, it backfired. That much is a matter of fact. I personally don't see this as them being racist at heart, I see it as them being cynically calculating. That much is in the eye of the beholder.
Like the Republican party you are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. Get real.
Phoenix mayor attempts to live on a food stamp budget for a week
I'd like to see people like Romney and Ryan do this.
I'd like to see people like Romney and Ryan do this.
cartoon_soldier
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That's some bull crap!
RustyNails
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Guys, why is Bibi holding a poster of a giant cartoon bomb in his speech?
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
did Bibi ACTUALLY did what he just did there????
really?
really?
I guess we have wildly different interpretations of what 'crazy' means. Much of that is just politics (Pointing out the FACT that McCain had more experience & faux outrage over dirty campaign tricks) and others are just mild political gaffes (Kennedy assassination) that happen every cycle.
Skiptastic
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This would be nice.
Rocket Scientist
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That makes so much sense, I assumed it wasn't an option lol. I would have thought you guys would make voting as hard as possible every possible way.
Wow, what a sad joke...
Netanyahu is on some Manos shit with how one-track his mind is.
Edit, beaten like a minority in a stand-your-ground court case.
Al-ibn Kermit
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That's an interesting experiment. I don't think it would be hard to get enough total calories on a few dollars a day but it's impossible to have any variety or decent nutrition. He mentions that by the fourth day, he was starting to feel bad.
$29 a week is totally ridiculous.
The Kennedy comment alone ginned up at least as much chaos as the 47% tape, so I'm speaking mostly about political fallout here. I don't think Hill was crazy in that she actually wanted Obama dead, but it was a crazy thing to say without considering the implications.
I'm dying over here. He dropped the bomb.
Dude Abides
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Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. Assuming you also pulled that from Hackerin's book, I wouldn't swallow its characterization uncritically.
Here is the Obama campaign calling the Clintons racist in a memo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clint_n_81205.html?
Here is a spokesman confirming it.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7845.html
The Kennedy comment was made when it was all but over (last week of May). The 47% comment was made almost immediately after the Republican Convention.
It wasn't a crazy comment. It was stating a political history fact. It's one she should have kept under her hat (which is why it's a gaffe), but she was just off-handedly listing recent history where it wasn't 'over until it's over'.
It wasn't a crazy comment. It was stating a political history fact. It's one she should have kept under her hat (which is why it's a gaffe), but she was just off-handedly listing recent history where it wasn't 'over until it's over'.
I wish I got the picture of the literal red-line he drew.
That's a memo saying the Clintons are politicizing race, which as I've just shown you, is a matter of historical fact. It is not speaking to their character, which is what you are arguing it is.
He's losing it. Obama better not let this guy push him into another war, He's a loon
This is some pre-Iraq war shit
Manmademan
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No, the last woman who came out with allegations against Cain was black, but either mixed or of very light complexion. Not sure which
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Bibi on some top tier fear trolling
Drudge Never disappoints: Vote Obama, get Obama phone
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Netanyahu is on some Manos shit with how one-track his mind is.
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You'll never see me use a chart or display that is that shitastic, it makes BigSicily look downright complex. lol
ErasureAcer
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ActBlue a half million short of 300 million since 2004.
Now you have something you can watch on loop for November 7th.
Her Romney analysis was spot-on.
Dude Abides
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"They're not racist, they're just making racist comments" is a distinction not worth discussing.
It is a matter of historical fact that the Obama campaign seized on innocuous comments like "fairy tale" and tried to make it a racial issue.
It's a fact that they tried to exploit race politically. That much is not in dispute. The distinction is motivation and that is important when you're dealing with politicians who don't need any motivation beyond "I think this will give me an advantage." You're acting like the Obama campaign smeared them as racist without any basis. I've shown you that the Clintons actually did try to exploit race and it simply backfired on them; you're literally trying to blame the victim.
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