LOL, the only honest one in the video is the girl's brother - all politicians are the same.
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LOL, the only honest one in the video is the girl's brother - all politicians are the same.
Aaron Strife
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If not the UE rate, it at least gives Obama a net positive jobs record.
PhoenixDark
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He looked pretty unemployed to me
"Bush kept us safe"
Ignatz Mouse
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Let's just take one little incident off of Bush's record...
Oh, you.
Dude Abides
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It's a fact that they made harmless comments and the Obama campaign responded with hyperbolic outrage in an effort to exploit race. That's fairly standard politics, of course, but by the low bar you set it's actually "going crazy."
Edward Kennedy, in private conversations, did not consider them harmless. I am inclined to take his opinion over yours.
The Clintons had a race strategy. The Obama camp flipped it on them. Four years later, Clinton apologists are still crying about the outcome.
Your candidate and her husband dug that grave themselves. Don't blame Obama.
I fully support Hillary for President in 2016, I just don't like historical revisionism.
NihonTiger90
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This is begging for photoshops.
Aaron Strife
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Do the first nine months not count or something?
Maybe Obama could use a mulligan on the jobs numbers until 2010, net gain of 5 million jobs, bow before your new god.
So has this been posted yet today? So awesome. SLJ makes everything better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntXJ0fbEyMw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntXJ0fbEyMw
Edward Kennedy was a fucking sleazebag. Intentionally tanked health care under Carter so he wouldn't get the credit, then tanked the party by running against him in 1980 election. Not to mention what a glorious asshole he was in his youth.
Why doesn't the left ever mention this? Could you imagine someone of Kennedy's fame/esteem running against Obama this past year? The dude would be a pariah for life.
Why doesn't the left ever mention this? Could you imagine someone of Kennedy's fame/esteem running against Obama this past year? The dude would be a pariah for life.
RustyNails
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@AriFleischer: Bibi's use of that chart was one of the most effective, gripping, uses of a chart I've ever seen. Is the world listening??
Ari is a joke character.
No. Ari Fleischer is mentally 5 years old, which is why the chart looked so amazing to him.
I think Ted was a dick but you won't find a better politician. He is supremely credible as far as political assessments are concerned.
Also he destroyed Nitt Nomney.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Funny enough it was removed from the Overall Crime Stats in both NY and by the FBI. I recall that if included NYC's Murder Rate would have been insanely out of whack. That said there is a argument for not separating it from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports.
Oh the Google ad I just got is LOLs
http://whyichangedmyvote.com/?sourc...e120e6fe0873&gclid=CMrP56qz1rICFe5FMgodUXUAyw
Dude Abides
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I supported Obama in the primaries over Clinton, I just don't think he shits gold and am therefore able to understand that calling the Clintons racists is fairly shabby and as much a "freak out" as anything that Hillary did. It's not clear why you brought up private conversations when we're talking about campaign reactions anyway.
Yep, conservatives are going full retard on polling
The tiny narrative starting to form throughout all of these things that the mainstream media is trying to "suppress" Republican voters with skewed polling is just fucking laughable and tear-inducing.
The tiny narrative starting to form throughout all of these things that the mainstream media is trying to "suppress" Republican voters with skewed polling is just fucking laughable and tear-inducing.
cartoon_soldier
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This confirms Bibi thinks real life is a cartoon and wars are "fun"
Now we're going in circles because earlier you basically alleged that Game Change is possibly fictional and refuse to acknowledge the evidence that the Clintons were deliberately running a race strategy from the beginning of the primaries. Absurd. It's a matter of record and will forever be so.
Black Mamba
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Lost it at the grandparents. Paid for by Jewish council for education and research. But GOP said Jews will abandon Obama over Israel!
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
@AriFleischer: Bibi's use of that chart was one of the most effective, gripping, uses of a chart I've ever seen. Is the world listening??
Ari is a joke character.
BHAHAAHAAA
what a jerk
4 dead Americans vs the number lost in the pointless Iraq war
Souldriver
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The only thing that clinton did in the primaries that id call panic mode is the fake tears. I cant really remember any other flagrant instances, keeping in mind that a losing campaign always gets a little desperate and ends up having disadvantage in perception. But perhaps i wasnt following close enough...
Dude Abides
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The evidence of the race strategy is private conversations. We're talking about campaign freak outs, in case you've forgotten. If you think you can make the case the case that "fairy tale," or any of the other molehills that Obama campaign tried to turn into a KKK mountain, is a racist phrase, please feel free.
What kind of logic is this?
http://midwestdemocracy.com/article...claire-mccaskill/#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy
Byakuya769
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Don't think I even saw PD at the peak of his "Hillaryis44" fandom try to argue away the Clintons' white strategy.
Akin... if he wins...
What a sexist piece of shit. She won't win because she's not being "ladylike?" wtf
Those statements were part of the Clinton strategy. Obama called them on it. He has been vindicated by history. End stop.
What an asshole.
Thing is, Carter was not as liked by the base as Obama is. Also, Carter was primaried cos they thought he'd lose anyway. He had like a 30% approval rating!
If Obama's numbers were anything like that last year (He's never been below 40% as far as I know) someone might have tried to primary him. It'd have been shut down real fast though cos the Dems can't afford to have ALL their black voters stay home lol
Dude Abides
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You don't seem to have a very good grasp out what we're talking about. The issue is whether the Obama campaign's reaction to phrases like "fairy tale" were justified or "straight crazy." You'll note that the Clinton=Grand Wizard memo makes no mention of private conversations with Ted Kennedy. You see, if the issue is whether a reaction to statement A is "straight crazy" it does not advance the case to point to statement B which received no reaction.
I wouldn't think this difficult to understand but that's political fanboyism I suppose.
Aaron Strife
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Yea. I actually dropped my Hillary support during that ugly Ohio primary where her campaign circulated that "Obama in Muslim garb" photo. But even before then there were clear racial overtones in her general argument against Obama's candidacy, as well as his success. From Hillary constantly harping on her success with white voters to Bill's South Carolina/Jesse Jackson comment. It was pretty blatant. Bill can pretend like he was broadsided all he wants but his fingerprints were all over the strategy change that occurred once he effectively took over (after South Carolina).
Meanwhile the media savaged Hillary on sexist terms, and Obama didn't object. It's not surprising why Hillary was so upset: Obama pretended to run a clean campaign while his surrogates slammed Hillary, with an assist from the media. That doesn't justify their clearly racially motivated campaign but I do understand why Hillary was so upset.
Perhaps the most heartbreaking thing is that Hillary really didn't have anyone to confide in during that campaign. I could tell she was lonely as her campaign imploded around her and Bill went on this selfish warpath. Who was there to comfort Hillary? No one. It makes me sad just thinking about it.
lol, goddammit PD
...And after the preponderate of evidence which I've already shown you that proves that the Clintons were deliberately running a race strategy, saying that they were politicizing race turns out to have been an entirely justified assertion. Your objection seems to be that the smoking gun that proves the Clinton strategy came in private conversations. That doesn't exonerate them; quite the contrary. Your denial of Game Change indicates to me that you just don't like truths that interfere with your preconceived notions.
Okay, that's it. I call bullshit. You're not a real poster. Are you Kosmo in disguise? WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND HERE
Aaron Strife
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Almost hope he's planning on retiring - if he goes back to his pre-2010 dosey doe in the last 2 years of Obama's term I'll be a little annoyed.
Would you give five years of your life just to be there for her during the summer of 2008?
Anyone following Fox's latest scandal? Apparently they have confirmed with "intelligence sources" that the WH knew Libya was a terrorist attack from the start and totally unrelated to the Cairo protest and tried to cover it up. Basically the typical trumped up, "what did they know and when did they know it?" farce.
I see no other outlet reporting this so I guess these could be magical sources only Fox has access to.
What exactly would they have to gain by lying? I can understand them being wrong but intentionally misleading would be stupid.
I see no other outlet reporting this so I guess these could be magical sources only Fox has access to.
What exactly would they have to gain by lying? I can understand them being wrong but intentionally misleading would be stupid.
Speaking of Edward Kennedy, I wonder what will become of Joseph Kennedy III after he wins election in Massachusetts? The guy's only 31 years old and appears to have far more potential than cousin Patrick Kennedy ever did, and I bet he'll run for the Senate in a few years after he's built the necessary reputation as a serious legislator.
He's good looking if you can get past the bias against red-heads these days. From articles I've read covering the race, he's a quiet man in more of the mold of Robert F. Kennedy. President Kennedy again? It's possible.
He's good looking if you can get past the bias against red-heads these days. From articles I've read covering the race, he's a quiet man in more of the mold of Robert F. Kennedy. President Kennedy again? It's possible.
bahaha, Reid's simply had an amazing 2012, ever since they learned to grow a friggin backbone against that GOP opposition. I sincerely hope he and the rest of the dems don't lose this attitude post-election.
Mark Penn, of course!
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