The Susana Martinez win was a referendum on Bill Richardson, whose approval rating was in the 20's due to pay to play scandals (which he was cleared on) and the highest unemployment percent New Mexico had seen in 20 years (though almost a full 2 points below the country average). Martinez had successfully tied Diane Denish to Richardson, nothing more. It's no real surprise that Obama's lead here is that large.
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The Susana Martinez win was a referendum on Bill Richardson, whose approval rating was in the 20's due to pay to play scandals (which he was cleared on) and the highest unemployment percent New Mexico had seen in 20 years (though almost a full 2 points below the country average). Martinez had successfully tied Diane Denish to Richardson, nothing more. It's no real surprise that Obama's lead here is that large.
RustyNails
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I'm kinda sad. Be nice to bilbo, guys
hydragonwarrior
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But he made up like 50% of ConservaGAF...
Quality over quantity.
PhoenixDark
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Express his constitutional rights
el retorno
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racism I think with his post about Indians.
Was it a Perm? We can't just have all Obama supporters, It'll get boring.
He was already on thin ice given his post history and the warning he received for trying to spread blatant misinformation regarding the DNC a while back.
CharlieDigital
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We got a couple of Jill Stein and Gary Johnson supporters in here.
Perfectchaos is still around (Ron Paul).
All good in the hood.
Thank you.
Nothing is more boring than an actual Romney supporter.
reggieandTFE
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My wife's brother is an ex-felon, half-Puerto Rican high school dropout that is voting for Romney here in Illinois. I have no idea what the hell is going on with him; I'm going to hope it's just because he lives in the shitty suburbs.
CharlieDigital
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Has PoliGAF had an actual Romney supporter?
Do these people exist?
Or are they just anti-Obama supporters?
Quantum states are never boring.
Byakuya769
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I'm actually speechless after reading that.
Souldriver
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I'm all for more political diversity on poligaf. However, I don't want douchebags, trolls, idiots, crazies and joke characters on poligaf. Luckily all those banned fall in one of these categories.
And hey, it's not our fault that there's such a great correlation between mainstream GOP supporters and all those unwanted characteristics...
And hey, it's not our fault that there's such a great correlation between mainstream GOP supporters and all those unwanted characteristics...
And yet, at the same time, always boring.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
There are some in OT. I wish a couple would come visit this thread and actually articulate why they support who they do. Have an actual back and forth discussion. Kosmo was just a False Equivalency bot, and did nothing to have me personally think outside the box. ToxicAdam does far more to challenge my thought process.
Yes, my favorite from this campaign so far.
el retorno
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That will forever be my favorite editorial.
Link for people who haven't read it
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/a-quantum-theory-of-mitt-romney.html
teruterubozu
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APF, Mandark, Kosmo, Manos... There will be others dressed in different names.
cartoon_soldier
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The PA Ruling isn't all that good, just more confusing mess.
Voter ID was not ruled out, only it can't be enforced. But poll watchers can still ask for Voter ID, and if a person doesn't have it they can still vote. That is confusing.
http://electionlawblog.org/?p=40927
Voter ID was not ruled out, only it can't be enforced. But poll watchers can still ask for Voter ID, and if a person doesn't have it they can still vote. That is confusing.
http://electionlawblog.org/?p=40927
Yeah, aside from his positions on climate science, TA is good people.
Fuck yea.
PhoenixDark
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I have no idea how Romney can bullshit his way out of the 47% comment. Does his camp think him claiming he's really for 100% of people resonates after that tape? I suppose he has no choice but to try, but still...that's a hard fucking sell
It just gives Obama the opportunity to say something like "that's not what being president is about, if you want this job you have to care about all people, etc"
It just gives Obama the opportunity to say something like "that's not what being president is about, if you want this job you have to care about all people, etc"
Fenderputty
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As someone who sort of just lurks this board, I liked Kosmo. He was a walking talking point, but the responses to his crap were always good. It was like practice for arguing with my friend who's also a walking talking point from the right.
I liked Manos too. (though I know he was more middle of the road guy than a conservative)
I hope more people will fill in. Even reading this thread will be more boring without them.
I liked Manos too. (though I know he was more middle of the road guy than a conservative)
I hope more people will fill in. Even reading this thread will be more boring without them.
Frank the Great
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yes romney, provide an easy opening for obama to remind everyone about the 47% video. great idea.
cartoon_soldier
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Also, going back to the Obama - Carter comparison. I don't think equating Obama to Carter will work, but at the same time Obama has a lot of vulnerability because of the Libya attack. A lot will depend on whether Dems will defend the Administration or some of them will not because of well Israel.
But Obama will also need to be prepared for a proper answer on the timeline and WH responses for the debates. His other problem will be losing media cycles to the upcoming house oversight committee hearing in an episode that Obama and WH clearly does not come out looking too good.
If GOP fear mongering gets American people to somehow believe they are in imminent danger yet, they will succeed in their plan. Obviously, that not being people's top concerns right now it will be hard for them to do so.
But Obama will also need to be prepared for a proper answer on the timeline and WH responses for the debates. His other problem will be losing media cycles to the upcoming house oversight committee hearing in an episode that Obama and WH clearly does not come out looking too good.
If GOP fear mongering gets American people to somehow believe they are in imminent danger yet, they will succeed in their plan. Obviously, that not being people's top concerns right now it will be hard for them to do so.
There are some Mormons in the OT but they don't come in here.
That guy with the Utah Jazz avatar is like a Mormon Kosmo.
el retorno
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I haven't seen him in here recently
Dude Abides
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Aw man Eric Hobsbawm died yesterday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/arts/eric-hobsbawm-british-historian-dies-at-95.html?hpw
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/arts/eric-hobsbawm-british-historian-dies-at-95.html?hpw
If he goes for the 100% line Obama just has to say something along the lines of "What should the American people believe? What you say behind closed doors when you think there are no cameras or what you say now on national television?"
teruterubozu
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el retorno
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Its quite interesting to see leaders of national parties praising a Marxist historian. Can you imagine Obama praising Chomsky at least publically?
I will say that got me interested in reading one of his books.
What misinformation was that? PoliGAF moves too fast for me to follow adequately anymore : /
End of an era.
It's only anecdotal evidence, but most of the people I know that support Romney are strongly anti-Obama and ambivalent about Romney himself. Paul Ryan seems to be thought of more fondly among the Republican base.
To be fair, though, plenty of people on NeoGAF are likely more anti-Republican than they are pro-Obama (there have been survey threads in the OT where most people have said that their own views more closely align with, say, Jill Stein, but they wont vote that way due to a desire to keep the Republicans out).
The Librarian
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PoliGAF moves at a snail's pace compared to other threads. I can actually keep up with it.
It was a thing from a right wing website misquoting the local news story they linked to about the DNC forcing a cancer center to shut down leaving patients in the cold... even though the center actually has three locations in town.
I knew it sounded wrong because I live in the area and it was extremely easy to click through and find the actual report.
TacticalFox88
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This is is exactly why I don't join the Halo thread, despite being a fan. I could post before work, and after work is done, 10-14 pages of posts already done.
So, basically... GEORGE WILL: "Hey, MSNBC, think your racism-sniffing schnoz is the best? Well, get a load of THIS!"
Yeah, I don't even bother with most threads. I'm on my phone 99% of the time, it's tough to be a contributing member like that. I post in here infrequently, and maybe a couple posts in the D&D play-by-post thread, and that's the sum total of my participation : /.
I was way more active during the 08 election, but then work nuked my Internet access for being on GAF too much...
CharlieDigital
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I would consider neither of them "Romney supporters". They may be anti-Obama, but that's the crux of my point here: I get the feeling that there are few, if any, true Romney supporters here.
So Kosmo is like a punching bag, a practice dummy, so to speak. I can appreciate that.
The anime thread now hits post cap just under once a month.
RustyNails
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Soo...any comments on Romney's flip flop on Dream act?
Edit: Not technically a flip flop...he never had a position on Dream Act, which is surprising.
Edit: Not technically a flip flop...he never had a position on Dream Act, which is surprising.
That's a scary place.
But I do occasionally inquire about an anime and the response time is magical.
matthewwhatever
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Are there any genuine Mitt Romney supporters? I'm not just talking about here on GAF, I'm talking about the world in general. I mean, I assume the Romneys themselves want him to win because they like him. Beyond that, though? There's a reason why there were so many fringe candidates elevated to serious contenders during the GOP primaries, and it's not because people were suddenly deeply in love with Michelle Bachmann/Herman Cain/Rick Perry/Newt Gingrich/Rick Santorum. Heck, Romney couldn't even crack 60% in the Virginia primary, and that was him running basically unopposed (or, if you want to be all technical about it, Ron Paul). He really only won because of his massive monetary advantage, not because GOPers had any affection for him whatsoever.
The best discussion I saw about this was from Jonathan Chait:
The best discussion I saw about this was from Jonathan Chait:
NullPointer
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Her can't. There is zero wiggle room for him on the merits.
All he can do is that 100% line and pivot to attack Obama with one of his zingers.
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