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PoliGAF 2013 |OT1| Never mind, Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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so I was randomly reading an article about the good folks in my home state of Texas introducing Anti-Obama-Taking-Mah-Guns legislation, and found this in an old related article:
Why Texas would flourish as an independent Republic based on liberty, not debt
some choice quotes:
This whole article is amazing
Why Texas would flourish as an independent Republic based on liberty, not debt
some choice quotes:
This whole article is amazing
^ Texas unscrambled is taxes, wonder if they'll decide to rename their new country.
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Reading the Cuomo Fact Sheet, I like pretty much everything in this ban except banning assault rifles (stupid) and lowering magazine capacity to 7 rounds (why not, but there are better things to do).
Ammunition checks are a must, it's about time a state implements them. I didn't see if it was the case, but it should be a crime to try to buy a weapon or ammunition when you are banned from doing so (right now you don't even get a slap on the wrist).
Background checks for all gun sales (except to immediate family), finally!
Statewide recertification every five years for pistols and rifles, finally! (why not shotguns though?)
Mandatory safe storage at home where people convicted of a crime etc live (why not mandatory safe storage for everyone?)
Pre-emptive confiscation when someone has a restraining order against them.
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Reading the Cuomo Fact Sheet, I like pretty much everything in this ban except banning assault rifles (stupid) and lowering magazine capacity to 7 rounds (why not, but there are better things to do).
Ammunition checks are a must, it's about time a state implements them. I didn't see if it was the case, but it should be a crime to try to buy a weapon or ammunition when you are banned from doing so (right now you don't even get a slap on the wrist).
Background checks for all gun sales (except to immediate family), finally!
Statewide recertification every five years for pistols and rifles, finally! (why not shotguns though?)
Mandatory safe storage at home where people convicted of a crime etc live (why not mandatory safe storage for everyone?)
Pre-emptive confiscation when someone has a restraining order against them.
A lot of hunters in upstate NY use shotguns to hunt. Messing with that just isn't worth it, they aren't used in many shootings in the state (handguns and rifles are the weapons of choice). As for safe home storage, people would flip their shit if we tried to implement it for everyone and this likely would have failed. All in all I like a lot of what's in here and don't hate any of it.
Heard an interview with a psychologist on NPR on the way home talking about the provision in the New York gun law that says they have to report anyone that might cause a problem to the authorities. That whole thing seems really, really problematic. There's a clause that exempts them if they don't because they were "reasonable," but after the fact assessments of what's reasonable don't really assure me. I wouldn't like to be a mental health professional in New York after this, I think. Also, that might mean more people with mental problems won't seek help, because it will no longer be confidential.
Oh no, let's not make things safer to try to avoid home accidents, kids bringing guns to school, and gun theft! How can non-crazy people argue against that one? I know crazies will hate it because it's the first step towards Hitlobama taking their guns away, but surely the sane majority wouldn't object to it, right?
Yee-Haw!!!! TEXAS FOREVER
In related news: Rick Perry says we don't need you're stinkin planned parenthood obummer!!
This man is a lunatic
zero shift
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I know people tend to post stuff on facebook here and there, but my friend's political views since moving to a different station in the military (was at El Paso and is now in the deep south) is worrying me.
He also is starting to say "nigger" out and the open when he refers to some people. Yes that one.
He also is starting to say "nigger" out and the open when he refers to some people. Yes that one.
speculawyer
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I know people tend to post stuff on facebook here and there, but my friend's political views since moving to a different station in the military (was at El Paso and is now in the deep south) is worrying me.
He also is starting to say "nigger" out and the open when he refers to some people. Yes that one.
So the first guy killed himself, the second guy died in a car crash, and the third guy got a gunshot to the head . . . and this is all Obama's fault?
Apparently there are conspiracy theory tropes. This is the same as the old Bill Clinton body count.
Synth_floyd
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It's good to know that the one of the most powerful men in the world and someone in a position to actually "change" the situation is instead putting a meaningless bumper sticker on his car.
Oh yeah, Scott Walker's doing his state of the state address tonight, and apparently he's going to push for a big income tax cut. He's claiming it's for the middle class, but I'd be willing to guess a good chunk of it goes to pretty well off people. It's pretty shitty to see the playbook coming out like this... claim that we have to cut all these things because, omg we can't afford it. Then when you've cut so much claim you've got extras, and so you can give it to people with income tax cuts. Those cuts will have some benefit to the middle class, but mostly will be a bit of a giveaway. It just comes down to they don't want to pay taxes for education, etc.
Seriously, if we have a surplus, fucking put back some of the money you gutted from programs back when you claimed you couldn't afford it and we had to make sacrifices...
Seriously, if we have a surplus, fucking put back some of the money you gutted from programs back when you claimed you couldn't afford it and we had to make sacrifices...
speculawyer
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Throws up devil horn sign.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/satanists-planning-rally-florida-gov-rick-scott-231148312.htmlSatanists planning rally for Florida Gov. Rick Scott
Florida Gov. Rick Scott may have earned himself a new constituency, but the devil is in the details.
Local news site WPBF.com reported that a group of Satanists plans to hold a rally outside Scott's office on Jan. 25 to support the governors signing of a bill that allows students to pray at school events.
"We've gotten such a response, it's just impossible for me to know what that translates into," Satanic Temple spokesman Lucien Greaves told WPBF, regarding how many will show up at the rally.
It's the crazies, they'd have found a way to spin something like that pretty easily. "Cuomo says you need to spend $5000 on stuff to lock your guns up," I can practically write their spin myself. I'd rather everything else go through and lose this than lose everything. I do agree with you though, this does need to go through eventually. This'll just make it easier in the future.
smokeandmirrors
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Thanks. Guy next to me in class was looking at the new version of the image with a second part about cleaning out the shit instead of raising the ceiling and I wanted to be able to potentially say something about it but couldn't remember all the points.
lol, yeah, I knew thaaaat part, I just wanted to use words.
Because I can't make my own money to pay my bills?
zero shift
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How's Wisconsin's economy doing anyway? I recall this he got elected even when the economy in the state was doing below than what it should have been. Has the economy improved since the recall.
PhoenixDark
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Wisconsin's economy is doing pretty good, to the disdain of liberals. Pretty low unemployment rate too
This is always the first response to this kind of question, but I think that, when it comes down to it, the most important difference is something that Black Mamba's link doesn't even get to until its last two reasons, and even then it only addresses it in a roundabout way.
The major difference is this: the federal government's budget matters to everyone else's budget. Deficit spending in a recession would make sense even if the US were on the gold standard because government spending has a huge impact on the overall economy. Me tightening my belt doesn't really hurt anyone else, but we have a collective action problem when everyone tightens their belts. We use government to solve this problem - it can enforce a certain amount of belt-untightening on everyone, so that no one can defect.
Is it? I've heard the UE rate is low, but job growth was supposed to be one of the worst in the country.
NYCmetsfan
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Just got out of class with james Carville. Awesome dude.
Jindal is coming next week.hes also getting chait, eric erikson, eliot spitzer, mitts pollster to come by throughout the semester.
The class is like poligaf come to life.
Need to prepare questions for Jindal.
Jindal is coming next week.hes also getting chait, eric erikson, eliot spitzer, mitts pollster to come by throughout the semester.
The class is like poligaf come to life.
Need to prepare questions for Jindal.
Ask Jindal why does he hate America and the citizens of his state so much that he would reject the super sweetheart deal the Federal Government is offering with The Affordable Care Act, considering how horrendous his state is when it comes to health care and how many people are uninsured/underinsured/WAY over paying. Make sure you quote him that CBO about how this is going to save the country money over time, and how it'll be an unbelievable savings for Louisiana.
Then walk up to him, punch him as hard as you can in the face, and tell him "Sorry I'm just doing to you what you're about to do to tens of thousands of people in your state. Thought I'd let you know how it felt before you answered."
NYCmetsfan
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Lol I live in Louisiana so I dont think that would go down too well. Thinking about questionimg him on his tax plan.
Also Carville is inviting the class over for dinner. I hope his wife is there.
Tomorrow I have class with harris perry so my final semester is gonna be amazing
"How did you prepare for your response to the State of the Union?"
"Sorry, I have a followup. In light of the fact that people widely agreed it was a debacle that permanently ended any national aspirations you might have had, would you do anything differently?"
Ask him who he feels is more difficult to work with, Tina Fey or Alec Baldwin?
Not really. I mean it wasn't completely awful to begin with, so that's its saving grace. It hasn't got any better, though.
Yes, to the disdain of liberals we're ranked 39th in the number of fast-growing companies and 47th in entrepreneurial activity in the latest New Economy Index.
I'm also pretty sure we're still ranked in the 40s as far as job growth, and also lag behind a few of the states directly around us, too.
PhoenixDark
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So uh, Rubio is receiving praise from republicans for...basically adopting Obama's immigration plan
There's an opportunity here. Let Rubio be a major face of this alongside Obama, give him a shout out during the SOTU, etc. Obama's cosign alone would sour many republicans on the plan - which as I said, is basically Obama's anyway. If it passes Obama gets to secure his legacy, and Hispanics for years to come. If it fails he gets to scapegoat republicans, and Rubio's 2016 prospects will be damaged.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/poli...ama-on-immigration-20130115?mrefid=mostViewed
There's an opportunity here. Let Rubio be a major face of this alongside Obama, give him a shout out during the SOTU, etc. Obama's cosign alone would sour many republicans on the plan - which as I said, is basically Obama's anyway. If it passes Obama gets to secure his legacy, and Hispanics for years to come. If it fails he gets to scapegoat republicans, and Rubio's 2016 prospects will be damaged.
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Because the two are so clearly mutually exclusive.
TheLaughingStock
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A household can't run deficits over the course of hundreds of years. (US is nearly 200)
Carpe Libertatem
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Honestly, I don't believe politicians should have repercussions for what they do in their personal private relationships. Cheating on his spouse is wrong, but it's really none of our business. As long as he's doing a good job in his PUBLIC position, that's what should be judged. Not that he was doing that either, of course
Plus, Anthony Weiner needs to get the fuck back to Congress, so yeah let's hope that a little fuck up is overlooked down the line
Well, problems arise when politicians cheat on their spouses using government funds (as Mark Sanford did). David Vitter broke the law by hiring prostitute(s), but didn't face charges due to the statute of limitations (whether or not you agree with prostitution being illegal is besides the point). I'm not sure whether or not Anthony Weiner used Congressional computers for his tweeting, but that obviously plays a role (it's still dumb that he had to resign, but Vitter didn't).
No, not the Onion.
100% real.
Mind is full of fuck
I would so go up to that counter, puff my chest out and pretend to be the biggest gun toting conservative of all time, and then buy my object for the cheaper price. Then the moment I received my order I'd rip my overshirt off revealing a huge GAY PRIDE t-shirt, pull out a framed picture of Michael Moore and then piss on my copy of the Bible.
Then I'd sing about the good ol' days coming when all the guns are taken and Obama can finally turn this into a communist country and slowly skip out the doorway while the owner yells in a rage
No, not the Onion.
100% real.
Mind is full of fuck
With juice, as with Congress, there are no moderates any more.
Black Mamba
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I see what you did there.
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Over/under on how long it takes the Better Business Bureau to come calling?
No, not the Onion.
100% real.
Mind is full of fuck
Even the Koch brothers are telling the GOP to back the fuck down on the debt ceiling talk.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox...ys_members_should_calibrate_your_message.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox...ys_members_should_calibrate_your_message.html
Any sane business person knows that if the Debt Ceiling isn't raised, it's going to fuck them over long term.
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Mind is full of fuck
It's actually fitting, the conservatives' food is subsidized.
Black Mamba
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Well, there's the Democrats in Congress.
I bet they will be out of business faster. Pretty stupid to alienate half of your prospective customers
I'm petty sure where that business is he's alienating way less than half
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