Eh. It won't stop even now. The next time we have a GOP Pres and Congress Obamacare might end up living a short life. Or, at least, it'll be gutted as I know it's hard to dismantle fully once implemented.
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Black Mamba
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If Obamacare succeeds to get 6-7 million new people in the first enrollment period, it's over.
No way the GOP will pass a bill that takes people off health insurance. It's political suicide.
They don't give a flying fuck about the people that it helps so I sincerely doubt it.
Black Mamba
Member
No matter how much they try to change medicare and SS it never happens. Remember when they had Bush, the Senate, and the House? What happened to Bush trying to privatize a part of SS?
They won't have a chance once Obamacare is part of the norm. They'll float the idea, get massive negative feedback from their own constituents, then not do it. Like fucking always. You have to understand how the politics of this work. The crazy conservatives are still the minority in their party. They won't cut people's insurances, ever. It's just political suicide. The majority of the GOP politicians want to keep their job. In fact, the only reason they've been so hard-lines is because they're afraid of losing their job to crazy people. They're kind of fucked in that way, but going full crazy will just kill the party forever. They won't do it.
Hey Dax, North Carolina is having a tough go but hey, at least you ain't North Dakota!
Escape Goat
Member
Its got to be absolutely exhausting to be a Fox News conservative. Nobody sees how the world really works but you and your fellow Fox Newsians.
worldrunover
Member
The ironic part is they probably could have made dents in Medicare and SS if they had gone along with Obama's Grand Bargain. But their stubbornness to raise taxes ONE CENT prevented anything from happening on that front, and now they will probably have to wait another generation. It's kind of funny actually... it's possible Grover Norquist is partly responsible for maintaining the status quo on the bane of conservatives' existence (entitlements)
How does no one in the news call them out on this shit?
Yeah as someone who's definitely on the side of "let's not add random crap on top of what the government can barely do", the voting laws seems like a lot more unnecessary waste for absolutely no gain and fail the sniff test in that respect.
It's really sad when comedians are able to do the job 90% of fools who call themselves "journalists" can't or are afraid too
The Librarian
Banned
Did you guys see this?!
So, within the past week we've had men that can't control their penises and men signaling an overall approve of drone strikes more than women. I will now issue a stern "Tsk, Tsk" to the entire male gender:
Tsk, Tsk
So, within the past week we've had men that can't control their penises and men signaling an overall approve of drone strikes more than women. I will now issue a stern "Tsk, Tsk" to the entire male gender:
Tsk, Tsk
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The dude would be a horrible mayor!! Any good that he could do would be kicked to the said by scandals that he'd create on his own. It's not enough to be smart, but you also have to conduct yourself like a professional too.
That's sort of what he's saying though. That he could be a good mayor if he would just take the time to get his shit together and get the help that he so obviously needs.
EDIT: I'd also like to say I tried the city-bike thing the other day while I was in Manhattan (the subway was like death and I didn't want to deal with it) and it is really really nice. It's cheaper than a cab and not as oppressive as the subway in the summer, there's just something about the wind in your hair that feels nice. I really hope it gets expanded, it's really a great way to get around the city weather permitting.
Its got to be absolutely exhausting to be a Fox News conservative. Nobody sees how the world really works but you and your fellow Fox Newsians.
Dat bubble made of miles if steel.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So what's the deal about this call center in California that's main job is to explain and imform people about Obamacare, not having any of their employees on any healthcare?
Lame if so. But just another piece of evidence that health insurance should be decoupled from employment if it cannot be effectively delivered to low wage or low margin employees.
Edit: I only see right wing sources so far, seems they are all part time jobs. Again the absolute best thing would be to get rid of the tax incentive to proved employee based care, deliver that cash as wages instead, then use the proceeds from the taxes on income/employment to provide subsidies for insurance. .
Did you guys see this?!
So, within the past week we've had men that can't control their penises and men signaling an overall approve of drone strikes more than women. I will now issue a stern "Tsk, Tsk" to the entire male gender:
Tsk, Tsk
Spain gets a lot of shit lately, but good job on this one*.
Apparently the Americans who answered "Yes" to this survey question added, "We pledge these skulls to Khorne!" Fucked up but true.
*It's kind of sad that recognizing wantonly raining death from the sky as bad is something noteworthy, but such is the mentality of our times.
jamesinclair
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Yup, look at a map of DMV locations in Charlotte.
http://goo.gl/maps/JC7KG
Theres a giant gap in the urban core.
Let me guess, thats where the minorities ive?
Hm? The call centers havent been staffed yet. I have friends checking for the openings every day.
El Rushbo wants the Reps to go through with another government shutdown because it helped the Republicans last time:
http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/07/26/limbaugh-1995-government-shutdown-was-a-politic/195087
http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/07/26/limbaugh-1995-government-shutdown-was-a-politic/195087
Rush is probably trolling at this point.
Probably? He's either trolling or he found a new dealer that was willing to sell to him in bulk.
Wasn't sure where to post this, but it's about a school switching from having metal detectors and bars on windows to having better relations with students.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national...elphia-schools-big-bet-on-nonviolence/277893/
http://www.theatlantic.com/national...elphia-schools-big-bet-on-nonviolence/277893/
AstroNut325
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thepotatoman
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Treating human beings like human beings makes them act like human beings. Treating human beings like animals makes them act like animals. It's a pretty simple concept really.
Like I said, in any scenario where it seems like a toss up, expect the worst, because the worst is bound to happen.
It's been a long time since I've been pleasantly surprised by something at the federal level. The end of insider trading by congress is about the only thing I remember being pleasantly surprised about, and that just got reversed a year later after the media stopped caring about it.
PhoenixDark
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Summers has fallen up for what, 30 years? Sigh.
shadowsdarknes
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I imagine those on the right are going to regret calling the Affordable Care Act "Obamacare" when things actually turn out to be pretty good.
I'm still upset that the bill was really a stripped down version of what it really was.
But I think we are up to attempt number 40 now on repeal attempts on this thing. Why is that? Is it earning them points with voters? Or are they just purposefully wasting time?
I'm still upset that the bill was really a stripped down version of what it really was.
But I think we are up to attempt number 40 now on repeal attempts on this thing. Why is that? Is it earning them points with voters? Or are they just purposefully wasting time?
shadowsdarknes
Member
Who is this guy? The article mentions
-being difficult to work with
-financial deregulation
Are those the big things? Or are there more reasons I do not understand?
Black Mamba
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In Summers defense, he's reversed course on the deregulation stuff.
zero shift
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This is the first time I've ever read a story in which a charter school worked.
Treating people like people makes them act like people. I could have told you this would work, it's what my high school did. Admittedly we did have a couple of bomb threats at one point but those were freshman out to get out of a test.
Like all things it depends on who is running the school and the caliber of teachers.
Aaron Strife
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The first thing is mainly about him being a dick to women, and the second thing was one of the major reasons we had the financial crash.
He's also a huge supported of additional stimulus spending.
PhoenixDark
Banned
You mean this last time?
Okay, if you insist.
He's also flat out lying about the results. Republicans gained 2 senate seats in 1996, not 6. And they lost 8 House seats.
House republicans aren't going to win a shut down battle with Obama, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
Summers was the one responsible for the watered down stimulus package, btw, just one of the many innumerable fuck-ups in his career.
Seriously, look up this guy's track record. He's a colossal fuck-up in every sense of the word, and yet he keeps getting powerful positions in government over and over again. Regardless whether he "changed his ways" or not(which I don't buy for a second): shouldn't he face the consequences for all the mistakes he has already made? Why does he deserve a 9th chance to fuck things up? what happened with accountability?
If he posted a picture of his dick to some girl on the internet, his career would be over. Being one of the assholes responsible for the '08 crash, though? ah, whatever, people change
platypotamus
Member
You mean this last time?
Okay, if you insist.
Maybe Rush just wants a Clinton in the white house again
Maybe Rush just wants a Clinton in the white house again
:lol
Maybe Rush just wants a Clinton in the white house again
His ratings would probably go up.
RustyNails
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I hate this slimeball with a passion. He was the chief architect of removing Glass-Steagall.
smokeandmirrors
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He has his own 'network' (which I think is an online thing idk?) but he seems to have all but disappeared, thankfully.
Disappeared? Maybe from Fox. But Glenn Beck made $80 million dollars last year. Mostly from his own online network and radio gigs. Who knew selling adspace for gold hotlines and survival seeds could be so lucrative.
http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celeb/journalist/glenn-beck-net-worth/
JesseEwiak
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He's joking, but I have zero doubt that Rush and Hannity and the rest of the Conservative Entertainment Complex (TM David Frum) will be happy as hell if Hillary wins the White House.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
oh hmm. well I stand corrected then. I had no idea.
jamesinclair
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Democrats in California lost their super-majority in the state senate in a special race. The person who held the seat went to take a job with Chevron.
22% registered republicans, and the democrat lost.
2014 anyone?
22% registered republicans, and the democrat lost.
2014 anyone?
Avon Barksdale
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Glenn Beck is proof that there's a sucker born every minute.
I've done some graphics for a conservative news agency that seems to have a side gig in scams, including this "God wants you to make tons of money, here's how"-type guy who is supposed to give you investment tips. They also sell a book on surviving Obamacare. There's certainly a market out there.
PhoenixDark
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They're about 60% of the people who click "free iPhone" ads and believe it's going to work. That's a lot of fucking people.
The funniest thing about Erick Erickson is that he has called out the scam nature of consultants who bleed money from GOP campaigns...while he personally participates in scams that bleed money from conservative readers. Obamacare alone has probably raised hundreds of millions of dollars for these people, off false hopes that repeal is just around the corner. Just give me $5 to end Obamacare! Find out the truth about Benghazi, give me $10! National success is irrelevant when you have a solid 20% of the country who will believe anything you say and buy just about anything you throw out.
Then there's the various gold buying and survival kit bullshit.
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