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So he is removing himself from the investigation after all?
Hope he resigns soon.
Hope he resigns soon.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT1| From Russia with Love
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THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
whyamihere
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Greenwald wrote a Putinpologetic piece about how Democrats are being xenophobic about Russia and how Democrats are only focusing on Russia and not focusing on elite failure and also WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO HACKED THE DNC OR PODESTA'S EMAILS SO THERE.
Par for the course, but still. Just sort of amazing.
Par for the course, but still. Just sort of amazing.
lmfao just watched the latest Seth Meyers clip and good god they had an old Manifort clip where he lied and mumbled his way through an answer that Trump didnt have any financial business ties to Russian oligarchs. Lmao never saw that clip. Good god was that the most obvious confused lie ive seen.
It's what happens when you put ideology above actual reporting: you wind up writing drivel at times.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Snowden really fucked up choosing him to leak the information too. In retrospec anyways.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Wasn't Greenwald part of the group that was like "Why are the Dems focusing on Russia instead of issues real people care about?!?" and now the Russia issue has been the only thing other than Puzder's domestic violence that has taken down Trump's people.
Yeah there have to he measures put in place whenever the Dems take back control go stop a future competent authoritarian from ever taking power. Like didn't Germany and Italy go to great lengths to ensure a dictator couldn't run everything into the ground?.
Yep.
Yes they did. The Germans put in a bunch of protections to make sure Nazi-ism didn't come back as well.
Tranqueris
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Hmm.. I think there was a Trump version of this.
K then Dems sure as hell better put protections and make sure Trumpism dies. Cuz good god I'd be scared shitless if Trump was competent. So far just about everyone in his administration and hell the GOP keep shooting themselves in the foot.
More_Badass
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How do you do that in a way that the next administration can't just undo everything?
This is the problem. The Germans all agreed that Nazi-ism had to die and never come back, we're got a political party that's totally cool with working with a foreign government if it means winning.
PantherLotus
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that Carter Page / Hayes interview is fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking creepy and devastating. This entire thing stinks.
Bonen no Max'd
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Honestly it's refreshing that even in these turbulent times, we can still rely on darkace to say that Kansas will turn out great in two decades so people should stop saying it's a disaster.
Aaron Strife
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Niiiiice.
Christie probably shat the bed for any Republican this election. Let's just hope we hold onto the gubernatorial seat in Virginia, too.
Bonen no Max'd
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Carpe Libertatem
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establishment shill Tom Periello
Mobius and pet octopus
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Great. Life long NJ resident here. Sick of Christie. Looking forward to a Governor who isn't stuck in the stone age concerning marijuana legalization. Even medicinal marijuana laws here are terrible.
AntraxSuicide
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You need a conviction against someone in the Trump administration. Then you use that as evidence for why you need these new rules (for example, mandatory bipartisan or independent investigations on the recommendation of some collective you think won't go full Benghazi with that). If a future group attempts to even think about getting rid of such rules, you point to the incompetent, terribly-run Trump administration as evidence for why that's bad.
Tranqueris
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Van Jones still catching shit on Twitter. Good.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Has he said anything about it?
Speaking of Kansas I wouldn't be surprised if it turned into a swing state on the presidential level in 4 to 8 years from now. If turnout is low enough in rural areas and the democrats can win all lot of the kansas counties hilary won or came close to winning I think it may be possible to turn kansas into a swing state.
Tranqueris
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...praise-not-saying-he-s-george-washington.html
The excuse counts for shit when compared to how he normalized the fuck out of him that night. How people reacted to that was unsettling as hell. Makes me worried about a terrorist attack. Trump can give a speech about respecting everyone while include parts in there about rounding all the Muslims up but as long as he says it coherently then people will sweep the racism to the side and concentrate on his "tone."
JesseEwiak
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He's the perfect representation of a guy who doesn't realize he's moved far to the right economically but still think he's a modern center-left. I mean, when you even occasionally take some L's on the badeconomics subreddit, you know you're doing something wrong.
Bonen no Max'd
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I actually posted about this, wondering if the absolute disaster of Brownback could open up an opportunity to turn the state purple more longterm than just one election. Not a ton of electoral votes, but the chance for more senate seats would definitely be welcome. Probably not, but they did give us Sebelius and she was pretty progressive for her time and environment.
There were like 3 counties if I recall that hilary came close to winning in Kansas in November. They were the highly populated Johnson County, Riley County and Shawnee County. If the democrats could run up the margins in some of the more highly populated Kansas counties like Johnson it may be possible. Flipping Sedgwick County or making it less republican may help with this.
JesseEwiak
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From what I've read, there's a split between Western Kansas and Eastern Kansas. There's no real Democratic Party in Western Kansas, so it's possible for moderates to win state legislative seats there.
Ironically, a healthy Democratic party in Eastern Kansas means that it's a lot harder for moderates to win Republican seats, since the moderates are now Democrat's.
Also, Kansas is Republican at almost a biological level. It was even FDR's 6th worst state in the 1936 landslide (even though he won it) and it was one of the 1st states to flip back to the GOP in 1940.
Bonen no Max'd
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It looks like when we almost unseated Brownback in 2014 (3 point loss) Davis (the Dem candidate) in addition to Wyandotte and Douglas (the two counties Hillary won) won Jefferson, Shawnee, Riley, Lyon, and Crawford. He did not win Johnson, though it was only light-red. In addition to Johnson, the close counties Brownback won with <50% were Jackson, Osage, Morris, Saline, Cowley, and Sedgwick. We'd also have to keep margins down in the west though, Trump's margins were better there than Brownback's even though they were dark red in both.
Right, hence the "probably not" but Brownback barely winning is something we should capitalize on. Don't let them forget who ruined the state. We even picked up state house seats in what was otherwise a Republican wave!
Historically it was also the heart of the Populist movement, so there's at least some historical basis
I agree it's a long shot though, definitely not guaranteed.Aaron Strife
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He could always lose in the primary to his opponent, Lt. Gov Ralph Northam, pictured below:You casting doubts on my man?
whyamihere
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I don't think Brown will end up being the next democratic presidential nominee. He's going to be an easy target for republicans if he is trying to raise his profile this early.
whyamihere
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His excuse is shit, it amounts to "you guys don't realize Trump can change!". He should admit he fucked up and apologize if he doesn't like getting justifiably railed for this, but I doubt he will since he seems to think normalizing the enemy makes him a more compassionate person than everyone else.
He's done. Lost every ounce of credibility with me after doubling down on this. It's sad because now it makes all those moments where I liked him in 2016 look like a performance, and that in reality he's just another soulless pundit saying whatever works for CNN.
GutsOfThor
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Speaking of Brown, how would you all fell about a Brown/Harris ticket in 2020?
http://observer.com/2017/03/sherrod-brown-kamala-harris-donald-trump-reelection/
http://observer.com/2017/03/sherrod-brown-kamala-harris-donald-trump-reelection/
AntraxSuicide
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Significantly happier than thinking of Brown in isolation. That answer above is great for the Rust Belt, but it's not going to woo a ton of people of color.
how
EDIT: The updated cover is less cringey!
Him putting himself out there this early may make it easier for republicans to attack him. He may be able to deflect these attacks once they come pretty easily.
The funny thing was that Snowden had to look elsewhere because Greenwald was too dumb and/or lazy to encrypt his communication.
There was an article a few days or a week ago about a list of possible 2020 candidates that the GOP was already looking into probing and investigating, and I'm pretty sure Brown was one of them. It's not like it was a secret before that he was possibly going to run against Trump in 2020.
Bonen no Max'd
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fwiw Brown's constituency has a significant black portion, Ohio is much more black than Wisconsin or Minnesota. It's part of why I think he's a really good pick: he *does* have to work with minority voters.
That said, I think he should pick a minority VP candidate. I don't know if Harris the right one though, I'm not a huge fan of inexperienced "excitement" picks. Of course, there's not a lot of other options unless we pull someone from the House.
That guy has always been a piece of shit. Only reason anyone even knows his name is because of Snowden.
The VP isn't that important altogether. It's generally been used to appeal to a certain demographic that the primary candidate may not immediately reach. See the white working/middle class with Biden and Obama, GOP stalwarts with Pence and Trump... Kaine and Hillary didn't really work out to her benefit but yeah. Picking Brown as the primary guy to appeal to the whites generally and push his economic message while having Harris as the VP to pick up any slack in minority groups is a good ticket.
NullPointer
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This one?
Yeah. He's not winning an academy award for that shit.
Also, randomly just watched Hunt for Red October again. Love that movie. And just noticed that the political officer that Ramius takes out in the beginning was named Ivan Putin. Huh.
Bonen no Max'd
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I understand the logic, I just don't think the VP does much electorally aside from message sending and I think it's important to keep them fairly qualified. Brown/Harris is fine though, I'd just rather we pick a more experienced VP. The problem though is that the pickings for minority + experienced is pretty slim so picking a minority without the experience runs the Dan Quayle risk, but it's probably better that we don't play it safe and give it to one of our new women of color in the Senate.
how is Bill Richardson feeling
I don't even know if he would be a good candidate even if he wasn't super old
Kaine helped Hilary win Virigina by more then she would have won it by if he wasn't on the ticket.
AntraxSuicide
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I've said it for awhile now, but experience is a detriment to our side since it means you might have compromised at some point to get something passed, and that's a no-no these days. It's why I'm almost certain we need one of our freshman Senators to be on the ticket; no real record to tie them down with the dreaded C word.
Not disputing these points - they are definitely true - but I think it's an awful idea to buy into. You're basically conceding anyone who has proven their capability to handle politics is tainted, and allowing the gross stupidity of the electorate to lead "with feelings", rather than educating them. Compromise and experience will be what's needed come 2020, and to have to ignore that in favour of voter appeasement is pretty disgusting.
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