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[Tamanon]

The SOPA threat is a pretty good thermometer for Hillary.

Why anyone thinks a dinosaur thats chained to the hip with the failed Obama administration has a chance in hell of getting votes is beyond me.

Yeah, the youth vote will turn out....to boo at her speeches.

Never mind that she'd ruin women's history.

She's be "first female president" with a giant fucking apostrophe.

Where would you place the apostrophe?

 

[ivysaur12]

Where would you place the apostrophe?

First fe'male president

 

[platypotamus]

The SOPA threat is a pretty good thermometer for Hillary.

Why anyone thinks a dinosaur thats chained to the hip with the failed Obama administration has a chance in hell of getting votes is beyond me.

Yeah, the youth vote will turn out....to boo at her speeches.

Never mind that she'd ruin women's history.

She's be "first female president" with a giant fucking apostrophe.

There is very little in this post that I understand.

 

[jamesinclair]

Where would you place the apostrophe?

Typing while tired.



First female president*

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Typing while tired.



First female president*

How would she not be?

And what does this mean

Never mind that she'd ruin women's history.

Glad your the arbiter of feminism and women's history

 

[B-Dubs]

Typing while tired.



First female president*

That isn't what he meant

 

[Oblivion]

Have you guys seen this?

http://jezebel.com/banker-bro-now-hiring-frat-dudes-with-hot-slampieces-1012342664

 

[Aaron Strife]

How would she not be?

And what does this mean

Glad your the arbiter of feminism and women's history

Because he doesn't like her, he won't consider her the real first female president.

That'll come when Elizabeth Warren is elected on the first of never.

 

[ivysaur12]

This is a good description



Lets not pretend that when fines are on the table that's too much either. The internet wants to pirate and that's what a lot are fighting for. Any change is too much for them.

Exactly. It's not about a genuine interest in protecting civil liberties or internet freedom -- it's a desire to not pay for copyrighted materials cloaked by a vague interest in civil liberties. Which is fine, I suppose, people vote for their own self-centered interests all the time. I think it's a shitty thing for ad revenue to be generated over pirated material, but that's just me.

I'm not for anything resembling SOPA or PIPA, but I also wish people were more genuine on their own personal interests in "internet freedom."

Because he doesn't like her, he won't consider her the real first female president.

That'll come when Elizabeth Warren is elected on the first of never.

Elizabeth Warren is more female than Hill Dawg. It's true.

 

[Giant Panda]

The SOPA threat is a pretty good thermometer for Hillary.

Why anyone thinks a dinosaur thats chained to the hip with the failed Obama administration has a chance in hell of getting votes is beyond me.

Yeah, the youth vote will turn out....to boo at her speeches.

Never mind that she'd ruin women's history.

She's be "first female president" with a giant fucking asterix.

Poe's Law?

 

[B-Dubs]

Have you guys seen this?

http://jezebel.com/banker-bro-now-hiring-frat-dudes-with-hot-slampieces-1012342664

Come on, that's not real. Though if it is I can pull slam-pieces and I know economy stuffs. Gimme high paying job pls.

 

[empty vessel]

Going by his donations, he seems to be the standard socially liberal, fiscally conservative libertarian, not the crazy Rand Paul kind. I can live with that.

Ugh, they're the worst. Not really, but still really, really bad.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Have you guys seen this?

http://jezebel.com/banker-bro-now-hiring-frat-dudes-with-hot-slampieces-1012342664

however, I have somehow found myself without a full-time job offer for the upcoming year.

With my financial expertise, help from my powerful father and connections, and a skilled team, I have no doubt that this fund will rise quickly to prominence.

I know that my education and background qualifies me to lead a venture of this sort

The information in this email is most likely totally worthless and lacking of any benefit to society and/or anyone in particular. If you received this communication in error, then please immediately delete all of your saved porn & energetically beat yourself about the head. All other more intelligent actions taken in response to this information are prohibited, so there.

Plus the emphasis on the slam pieces..

well I for one am shocked as to why no one would hire this fine individual.

 

[ivysaur12]

Have you guys seen this?

http://jezebel.com/banker-bro-now-hiring-frat-dudes-with-hot-slampieces-1012342664

Congrats, Jezebel, you found an email from someone who doesn't get laid enough and will start their own flailing hedge fund.

 

[zero shift]

So I was in criminology class and there were these two people in class, who live in the hood talking about how bad things are now and things are getting way worse. So I made that comment crime has been radically down over the past twenty years.

The teacher said "I don't know about radically, I mean its down since the 90s but crime has largely fluctuated. Its just that different types of crimes get popular**."

I mean WTF is it with my teachers not knowing basic stuff.


** The context of this is that "Yeah homicides went down but assault went up" or "yeah theft went down but burglaries are up."

I didn't get anything wrong did I?

I mean I feel that this speaks for itself.

 

[bonercop]

This is a good description



Lets not pretend that when fines are on the table that's too much either. The internet wants to pirate and that's what a lot are fighting for. Any change is too much for them.

I was just objecting to the insane suggestion made by the DoC in the thread.

But believe me, I do know you're right about this. The internet will complain regardless of what the outcome will be if there are any attempts made to put a stop to piracy. Even if the government could somehow concoct a way to guarantee privacy and dole out proportional punishment, I reckon the internet would still fight it every step of the way. people like free stuff, yo

 

[Fuchsdh]

I didn't get anything wrong did I?

I mean I feel that this speaks for itself.

Fundamentally you're right, surprisingly the rate of crime went down even with the recession, contrary to what you might expect, but A) I wouldn't use just one graph as evidence of that, and B) I'm fairly certain people in the "hood" are going to feel that it's worse then ever. We've worked pretty hard to calcify and entrench criminal behavior by high incarceration rates and barriers to rehabilitation.

 

[APF]

The core R line of attack against Hillary as nominee will be similar to the attacks Dems had against McCain: she's "more of the same," but with the twist that Hillary is more duplicitous and divisive (thanks 08 Dem primary, for solidifying that idea!). If you're convinced There Will Be Dog Whistles, it'll be dumb patronizing stuff that cuts more against women than men so there'll be some deniability (see eg the emerging meme that she was ineffectual at State in comparison to Kerry's short time there already). Occasionally Rush Limbaugh will say something that equates to "and you thought President Obama was Socialist!" but it will not be a core line of attack.

 

[Link]

The SOPA threat is a pretty good thermometer for Hillary.

Why anyone thinks a dinosaur thats chained to the hip with the failed Obama administration has a chance in hell of getting votes is beyond me.

Yeah, the youth vote will turn out....to boo at her speeches.

Never mind that she'd ruin women's history.

She's be "first female president" with a giant fucking apostrophe.

This shtick was old and tired when you started it. And please learn what an apostrophe is.

EDIT - Wow, didn't realize how much time had passed since I hit quote. Oh well.

 

[jamesinclair]

How would she not be?

And what does this mean

Glad your the arbiter of feminism and women's history

Because he doesn't like her, he won't consider her the real first female president.

That'll come when Elizabeth Warren is elected on the first of never.

Its because the only reason she even has a chance is because shes famous.

Why is she famous? Because she is married to an ex-president who cheated on her.

That's her great claim to fame. Her crowning accomplishment is that her husband got a blowjob from an intern.

What a wonderful chapter for the women's rights book.

Wouldn't it be nice if the first woman president got that via her own bootstraps?

 

[Clevinger]

nevermind

 

[The Librarian]

Its because the only reason she even has a chance is because shes famous.

Why is she famous? Because she is married to an ex-president who cheated on her.

That's her great claim to fame. Her crowning accomplishment is that her husband got a blowjob from an intern.

What a wonderful chapter for the women's rights book.

Wouldn't it be nice if the first woman president got that via her own bootstraps?

First, it's boobstraps. Second, can you stop trolling please?

 

[East Lake]

I think if Hillary cheats in her second term she's redeemed.

 

[B-Dubs]

Its because the only reason she even has a chance is because shes famous.

Why is she famous? Because she is married to an ex-president who cheated on her.

That's her great claim to fame. Her crowning accomplishment is that her husband got a blowjob from an intern.

What a wonderful chapter for the women's rights book.

Wouldn't it be nice if the first woman president got that via her own bootstraps?

Geeze at least when PD trolls this hard we get some fan fiction

 

[RustyNails]

CNN Breaking: 2 dead 4 injured at Pennsylvania Town Hall meeting

(CNN) -- Two people were killed and four were wounded in a shooting at a town supervisor's meeting in eastern Pennsylvania, a county official reported Monday.

The shooting broke out shortly after 7:30 p.m. ET at the Ross Township building in Saylorsburg, about 75 miles north of Philadelphia, Monroe County Emergency Management Director Guy Miller told CNN. A suspected gunman was in custody, and the wounded were being taken to various hospitals nearby, he said.

Ross Township's three-member Board of Supervisors meets the first Monday night of the month at the township's municipal building. Monroe County Commissioner Suzanne McCool said it was "the quietest township in Monroe County."

"They are never in the newspaper," McCool said. She said she knew of no controversial issues before the supervisors.

"They are the only township in Monroe County that hasn't had a tax increase in many, many years," she said.

 

[B-Dubs]

CNN Breaking: 2 dead 4 injured at Pennsylvania Town Hall meeting

What in the fuck?

EDIT: Of course I turn on CNN and Piers Morgan is talking about A-Rod instead.

 

[APF]

I'd take the "bootstraps" argument seriously if she wasn't Senator Clinton and then Secretary Clinton for the last forever years.

 

[Link]

CNN Breaking: 2 dead 4 injured at Pennsylvania Town Hall meeting

Damn...

Do we know what sparked the conflict?

 

[jamesinclair]

I'd take the "bootstraps" argument seriously if she wasn't Senator Clinton and then Secretary Clinton for the last forever years.

First Lady of the United States
In office
January 20, 1993 – January 20, 2001

United States Senator
from New York
In office
January 3, 2001 – January 21, 2009


Surely her election to the senate had nothing to do with being the wife of the vastly popular president who was just leaving the office.

 

[The Technomancer]

CNN Breaking: 2 dead 4 injured at Pennsylvania Town Hall meeting

Just imagine if the conflict was between knife throwers instead

 

[B-Dubs]

Damn...

Do we know what sparked the conflict?

It just happened, so probably not


Oh ffs even CNN is getting in on the Benghazi shit, though to be fair it's just to wash their own balls

 

[The Librarian]

First Lady of the United States
In office
January 20, 1993 – January 20, 2001

United States Senator
from New York
In office
January 3, 2001 – January 21, 2009


Surely her election to the senate had nothing to do with being the wife of the vastly popular president who was just leaving the office.

Yes, let's set aside the fact that the people of New York thought she was qualified enough to be elected to office.

 

[Tamanon]

It just happened, so probably not


Oh ffs even CNN is getting in on the Benghazi shit, though to be fair it's just to wash their own balls

CNN seems to be doing a lot of "Isn't this happening because of our reporting?" segments on different things. It's kinda weird.

 

[B-Dubs]

CNN seems to be doing a lot of "Isn't this happening because of our reporting?" segments on different things. It's kinda weird.

I feel like it's to point out that they aren't completely garbage, which they sort of need to do due to the fact that outside of AC360 they are mostly garbage.

I wish CNN was more like NY1, which is basically hard news all the time. You wake up, they read the paper to you and what's planned through out the city, go to lunch and they tell you what's going on in the 5 boroughs and some national/international news, going to bed and the tell you not only what happened that day but do a run down of all the theater shit going on in the city. It's basically 1010WINS on a TV. It's the one thing I miss about Time Warner.

 

[zero shift]

Fundamentally you're right, surprisingly the rate of crime went down even with the recession, contrary to what you might expect, but A) I wouldn't use just one graph as evidence of that, and B) I'm fairly certain people in the "hood" are going to feel that it's worse then ever. We've worked pretty hard to calcify and entrench criminal behavior by high incarceration rates and barriers to rehabilitation.

I mean just where the hell does he get that crime has remained more or less stagnant?

 

[Link]

Holy hell, that SOPA thread is just straight up embarrassing.

 

[RustyNails]

I feel like it's to point out that they aren't completely garbage, which they sort of need to do due to the fact that outside of AC360 they are mostly garbage.

100% agree. The investigative journalism in AC360 rivals Frontline. I also like Anthony Bourdain and that supersize me guy (ALWAYS forget his name). I think those two shows can broaden the perspectives a little. But sadly, rest of the network is ass.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

100% agree. The investigative journalism in AC360 rivals Frontline. I also like Anthony Bourdain and that supersize me guy (ALWAYS forget his name). I think those two shows can broaden the perspectives a little. But sadly, rest of the network is ass.

Morgan Spurlock.

 

[RustyNails]

Morgan Spurlock.

Quick google afterwards told me that, but why is that name so hard to remember.

 

[B-Dubs]

100% agree. The investigative journalism in AC360 rivals Frontline. I also like Anthony Bourdain and that supersize me guy (ALWAYS forget his name). I think those two shows can broaden the perspectives a little. But sadly, rest of the network is ass.

I can't believe I forgot Bourdain, I always love his stuff. I didn't realize the supersize me guy had a show now.

 

[RustyNails]

I can't believe I forgot Bourdain, I always love his stuff. I didn't realize the supersize me guy had a show now.

He did a pretty good piece on the dysfunctional education system in America. If only rest of the CNN was just as forceful in it's views of public education in everything else, rather than presenting both sides as equal and valid. Interestingly, I re-watched Good Night and Good Luck and this quote from Edward R Murrow struck me:

I began by saying that our history will be what we make it. If we go on as we are, then history will take its revenge and retribution will not limp in catching up with us. Just once in awhile, let us exalt the importance of ideas and information. Let us dream to the extent of saying that on a given Sunday night, a time normally occupied by Ed Sullivan, is given over to a clinical survey on the state of American education. And a week or two later, a time normally used by Steve Allen, is devoted to a thorough-going study of American policy in the Middle East. Would the corporate image of their respective sponsors be damaged? Would the shareholders rise up in their wrath and complain? Would anything happen, other than a few million people would have received a little illumination on subjects that may well determine the future of this country - and therefore the future of the corporations?

To those who say people wouldn't look, they wouldn't be interested, they're too complacent, indifferent and insulated, I can only reply -- there is, in one reporter's opinion, considerable evidence against that contention. But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? Because if they are right, and this instrument is good for nothing but to entertain, amuse and insulate, then the tube is flickering now and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. This instrument can teach, it can illuminate - and yes, it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it towards those ends. Otherwise, it is merely wires and lights in a box. Good night, and good luck.

And bonus:

I've searched my conscience, and I can't for the life of me find any justification for this, and I simply cannot accept that there are on every story two equal and logical sides to an argument.

#Journalismisdead

 

[Diablos]

CNN Breaking: 2 dead 4 injured at Pennsylvania Town Hall meeting

My state....

Fuck. Sometimes I feel like I should just sell everything off and get the fuck out of here. I'm in between jobs so I've been really thinking about it.

 

[Wilsongt]

Holy hell, that SOPA thread is just straight up embarrassing.

Yeah, that thread is pretty shitty... Half of those people really don't realize what exactly is going on in the government... Obama has done some shitty things, but when you're dealing with a bunch of thumbsucking crybabies in congress... Well, sometimes you need to do stupid shit to keep the nation going...

I don't agree with a lot of what he does, but we've had far, far, far worse presidents.

 

[APF]

Surely her election to the senate had nothing to do with being the wife of the vastly popular president who was just leaving the office.

I'm sorry, is it 2000 right now? No? The People Have Spoken for multiple terms? She's had 12+ years of direct political experience as well as having eight years of being the most influential First Lady in modern history. Your argument is over a decade past its due date.

 

[Diablos]

Yeah, that thread is pretty shitty... Half of those people really don't realize what exactly is going on in the government... Obama has done some shitty things, but when you're dealing with a bunch of thumbsucking crybabies in congress... Well, sometimes you need to do stupid shit to keep the nation going...

I don't agree with a lot of what he does, but we've had far, far, far worse presidents.

Yeah it's just sad.

I mean, when you are paranoid about the fact that you might not be able to watch vids on Giant Bomb anymore (lol this will still happen) despite the fact that you, someone in your family, someone that you know and love/care about will finally be able to afford to see a doctor by the end of this year... there's a problem and you need to get your priorities straight.

 

[Link]

Yeah, that thread is pretty shitty... Half of those people really don't realize what exactly is going on in the government... Obama has done some shitty things, but when you're dealing with a bunch of thumbsucking crybabies in congress... Well, sometimes you need to do stupid shit to keep the nation going...

I don't agree with a lot of what he does, but we've had far, far, far worse presidents.

Agreed, but I really don't feel like getting sucked into that argument, so I won't be touching that thread with a 10-foot pole made of stolen copper.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Agreed, but I really don't feel like getting sucked into that argument, so I won't be touching that thread with a 10-foot pole made of stolen copper.

I find myself feeling that way a lot with political threads lately.

The minimum wage ones that keep popping up more frequently are worse to me, and yet I keep getting sucked into them...

 

[Diablos]

Agreed, but I really don't feel like getting sucked into that argument, so I won't be touching that thread with a 10-foot pole made of stolen copper.

I could use some help.

 

[Black Mamba]

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. government may continue to play an outsized role in the nation’s roughly $10 trillion home loan market under a proposal President Barack Obama is set to endorse on Tuesday.

The plan, along with a sweeping set of new and old housing recommendations and ideas, will be unveiled in Phoenix, as Obama launches his second-term housing policy agenda in the same city where he made one of the biggest broken promises of his first term.

Under Obama’s plan, mortgages provided by private-sector lenders that are bundled into securities and sold to investors could obtain a taxpayer guarantee in return for a fee, according to the White House.

The private sector would have to shoulder some of the initial losses if defaults were to rise, a condition usually triggered by falling home prices. After that, taxpayers would absorb the remainder of losses stemming from an extreme downturn in the nation’s property market. The insurance fee collected by the government should be “actuarially-fair,” the White House said, meaning it should equal the expected payout.

Though short on specifics, Obama’s endorsement of such a plan marks a turning point in the ongoing Washington debate over how to reform the nation’s housing finance system. Five years after twin housing giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were rescued by taxpayers, policymakers have struggled to advance a proposal that would ensure continued access to a bedrock of the U.S. housing market -- the fixed-rate 30-year mortgage -- but also would reduce the government’s role in funding home loans.

The White House had avoided publicly weighing in on how to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In 2011, the administration outlined three policy options. Though it had quickly narrowed those options to a few core ideas, officials have said, the administration refrained from publicly discussing them out of fear White House involvement would poison discussions on Capitol Hill.

Julia Gordon, director of housing finance and policy at the progressive advocacy organization Center for American Progress, praised Obama’s expected remarks for having the discussion about the future of housing policy in the context of “middle-out economics,” rather than focusing on investors and asset classes. Obama is in the middle of delivering a series of policy speeches discussing ways to improve the economy by emphasizing middle-class households.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac own or guarantee nearly half of all outstanding home loans. In the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the rest of the U.S. government have backstopped more than 90 percent of new home loans. Taxpayers now own or guarantee roughly three of every five outstanding mortgages.

The cost of a taxpayer guarantee could be high, especially if the administration’s preference is for the fees to equal expected payouts. A senior administration official said that the cost of the current system, which helped lead to the financial crisis, was “trillions and trillions of dollars in lost equity that we are still rebuilding.”

If the plan ultimately is signed into law, “credit would be modestly more expensive than it was,” the official said.

Policy analysts reckoned there’s little chance Obama’s plan could make it into law before the 2014 election, despite what appears to be a growing bipartisan consensus on the future of U.S. housing finance.

Taxpayers pumped in nearly $190 billion to save Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac so the companies could continue to make good on guarantees that investors were counting on. Now reporting record profits thanks to conservative lending standards, fewer defaults and rising home prices, the companies have returned more than $130 billion to the U.S. Treasury.

Obama’s plan resembles legislation put forward by a bipartisan group of senators led by Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and Mark Warner (D-Virginia). The lawmakers call for a public entity that would offer a government guarantee to issuers of mortgage bonds that would guarantee investors against losses. Those issuers would have to have sufficient capital to cover up to 10 percent of losses from defaults, after which taxpayers would step in.

Industry and consumer groups ranging from the Mortgage Bankers Association to the Consumer Federation of America have endorsed key planks of the Corker-Warner proposal.

The senior administration official said the Corker-Warner proposal was “consistent” with Obama’s ideas to reform housing finance, though the official said the proposal fell short in ensuring continued access to credit for first-time home buyers or in providing for rental housing.

Still, a powerful group of House Republicans is trying to advance a proposal that would drastically reduce taxpayer involvement in the housing sector. They remain a roadblock to any deal.

House and Senate Republicans are likely to object to other ideas Obama will attempt to advance on Tuesday, such as a government initiative that would allow more borrowers to refinance their home loans into cheaper, taxpayer-backed mortgages.

The site of Obama’s address on Tuesday is a short distance from the spot where the president announced his signature anti-foreclosure effort at the outset of his presidency. At a high school in the Phoenix suburb of Mesa, Obama explained how his mortgage modification program would work and how many people it would help.

In February 2009, Obama said that up to 4 million homeowners would be able to modify the terms of their mortgages under a government plan that would cap payments to income and prevent foreclosures.

The effort, known as the Home Affordable Modification Program, has fallen far short of its goal.

Sheila Bair, the Republican former head of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. who has been praised by consumer advocates and liberal Democrats, wrote in her book after leaving government service that she “cringed” when Obama said he'd save 4 million borrowers from foreclosure.

"At the Phoenix announcement, the president was masterful in announcing the program, though I cringed as he threw out what I considered to be wildly inflated numbers on the programs' impact," Bair wrote. "Even with our own, more aggressive proposal, we had estimated the number of successful modifications at 2.1 million tops."

Bair said many borrowers who entered HAMP ultimately were cheated.

Through May, fewer than 880,000 borrowers were making payments on new HAMP mortgages. Originally a $50 billion commitment, the program has shrunk to about $38 billion. Less than $9 billion has been spent so far on housing programs under the bank bailout program known as TARP.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/obama-housing-plan_n_3710200.html

Interesting. Didn't know Obama was going to take a policy position, though it's about time. It's the right approach, too.

 

[jamesinclair]

The People Have Spoken for multiple terms?

Thats a laughable argument.

Michelle Bachmann?
Sarah Palin?

The people spoke for multiple terms of Michelle.

Of course, we can go off an enormous list of terrible, incompetent and potentially evil twats that got multiple terms. (Not that Im saying Hillary is any of that).

The people, many times, don't know shit.