It's hard to tell whether this is a victory for Obama, or a victory for the Republican attempt to suggest that Obama is responsible for the sequester. It kind of looks like both sides just think the other guys are to blame.
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It's hard to tell whether this is a victory for Obama, or a victory for the Republican attempt to suggest that Obama is responsible for the sequester. It kind of looks like both sides just think the other guys are to blame.
That sounds like exactly what Paul Ryan and the GOP are trying to do to Medicare (because it is).
The entire reason why Medicare was created in the first place is because the employer-based health insurance model left retirees out of the system, forced to purchase their own individual coverage. Because of their age and medical problems, though, they could not afford these plans, and 1/3rd of senior citizens died in poverty because of their medical bills, and 51% died without insurance prior to medicare being enacted.
Similarly, medicaid is in place to assist low-income families, children, pregnant women, disabled persons, and seniors. These are also people who the employer-based model failed and who can not afford individual plans.
So what the GOP is essentially doing is turn medicare and medicaid into functioning in the exact broken way that they were created for the purpose of eliminating.
It's not "interesting." It's destructive social and economic policy that reduces the standard quality of life in America.
These are the retards who claimed we had/have a spending problem. Now they're saying cutting spending is a problem
They can't make up their minds (not that they're really using them)
empty vessel
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Those favorable numbers are bolstered by ignorance, too. I mean literal ignorance. I've been affected by sequestration. As a result, my local coffee shop lost a revenue stream of about $60/month that I previously provided it but made a decision to cut out to save that money. Of course, the owner doesn't know that he has lost this business specifically as a result of sequestration. He may well (wrongly) think himself unaffected by sequestration.
This is how reductions in net government spending negatively affect the private sector.
Black Mamba
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I say a win because turnout will be lower among republicans in 2014 compared to 2010. They will see the drop in total votes similar to what Obama saw in 2012 where people annoyed with where they stand but they also won't vote for the other guy so they stay home.
Aaron Strife
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I wonder what effect passing immigration reform will have on Republican turnout in 2014. It seems like such a charged issue for many conservatives and if Republicans are complicit in passing "amnesty for illegals" that could have severe repercussions.
Perhaps the GOP will get some props by pro-immigrant voters, but Obama will get the lion's share. For better or worse the president always gets credit. I think passing it will have worse consequences for the Republicans than if they don't.
Wrong thread.
The Librarian
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I saw this on Twitter where it read, "Democratic Congressman 'Disappointed' By End Of Ban On Gay Scouts." I thought to myself, "That's Mike McIntyre, isn't it?"
*clicks on link*
*clicks on link*
You're talking about a very small number of beneficiaries, it's not worth exposing a good program to the funding / accessibility risks all welfare programs face in the U.S. because of them.
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
Can you expand on this? Specifically, what funding/accessibility risks do you think would be introduced?
speculawyer
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http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/fox-news-host-tells-listeners-punch-obama-vo
They really are in a contest to see who can be more of a dick than the next pundit aren't they? It is like a contest to see how much of a dick you can be without going over the line that gets you kicked off the air.
So that One America news channel for people who think Fox News is too libetal is launching July 4th. Didn't we already have some sort of attempt at a Tea Party news network funded by Adleson? I seem to remember that their debut was supposed to be election night coverage from Vegas? What happened to that?
empty vessel
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I've got no problem with it. Retirement insurance is a universal benefit to people who contributed to society through their labor. If the person worked, he is entitled to the benefit.
Fox News: the new center.
Aaron Strife
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Y2Kev i think posted about the CA state senate seat that Democrats seemed to lose earlier this week.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/state-senate/district/16/
Luckily it looks like it'll be going to a runoff now.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/state-senate/district/16/
Luckily it looks like it'll be going to a runoff now.
This. No means testing for SS
Goddamn it! Those idiots better not fuck up the insurance exchanges.
There's got to be some kind of bonus in it for the craziest person.
Aaron Strife
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Even if Democrats do lose this one they'll still have a 2/3rds majority in the Senate.
Of course, if they end up winning that'd be even better. All the other candidates (two Democrats, one Peace & Freedom) seem to be left-leaning anyway, so Perez could pull this off.
Wait, they STILL have a 2/3 majority even with this current loss? That's a little less worriesome, then.
ClassyPenguin
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damn, that's depressing.
rocketknight
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A spot on the NYT bestseller list.
speculawyer
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How is that even possible? I would think that if you go further right than Fox then you are simply in Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, & Michael Savage crazy territory.
Such a channel would be cavalcade of racism, gun porn, and conspiracy theories. Your one-stop shop for all hating needs of hating Muslims, Mexicans, gay people, college professors, scientists, Europeans, etc.
On the bright side The Daily Show and Colbert Reports will have a lot of material to work with.
I should see if I can get a job there, I think if I pull my best Colbert they won't figure me out and I can get paid for trolling.
Link
The Autumn Wind
Don't worry, Fox and this new channel are going to be fighting for viewership. It's going to be like a Republican primary, with each having to go as far right as possible. I'm expecting hilarity.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah. I'm not Californian as well so I don't keep up with the politics there, but it seemed like Democrats got most everything passed they'd need for the next two years anyway.
I know, I can't wait.
Jack Remington
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Can you link to this column?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The problem is how do you get the people in the red states to actually look at the blue states and go "wait...we want that"
adamsappel
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ClassyPenguin
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Brilliant. Says it all doesn't it?
It really does.
Aaron Strife
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Love it. New favorite
The Librarian
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Wish they'd try for single-payer again.
speculawyer
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Yeah, I actually had dinner with a bunch of old people the other day. They were saying "They need to pay their student loans . . . we paid for our education." I just didn't have the heart to argue with them and point out the difference is education costs.
Two things have gone up like crazy . . . college costs and medical costs. Those old people get free medicare. They just don't get it.
ClassyPenguin
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Wish they'd try for single-payer again.
Good thing I live in LA county. If it wasn't for that public health system, I'd of probably died. It's heartbreaking to see how I am privileged in that sense.
I get access to a psychiatrist, a counselor and an occupational therapist.
The Librarian
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LA County has a public health system? What's it like?
ClassyPenguin
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I can only speak for myself but great. I got my anti-depressants covered, and semi-annual check-ups too. Once I get a stable pay check, I wouldn't mind paying the new coverage, though in my opinion, they seem a still too high for those just above the medicaid limit.
I got coverage as an unemployed 24 yo, one year after I graduated UC Riverside, and it still covers my bill a year later (25 now) until I have enough earnings.
Aaron Strife
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They also told their kids to go out and get big houses and cars on crappy loans that blew up in their faces. They promised them they could live the rich lifestyle without actually being rich.
The Librarian
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Um...go...Jan Brewer. Did I just type that out?
Even a broken clock can be right twice a day.
These are great. And so true.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
People should strike if he does that. What a douchebag move
I don't know if he will or not (Corbett), but if the PA GOP defines "full-time" as less than 35 hrs/wk, won't employers just get fined even more?
All so confusing. THANKS OBAMA.
Avon Barksdale
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How do you put a headline underneath your screenname?
The Librarian
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