Macho Madness
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Walker looks like the middle manager you sit next to on the airplane who reads SkyMall.
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Macho Madness
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I'd love it if there was actually an Illuminati, means that someone can take charge in a unilateral way to solve global problems. Presumably they intend to sustain human society, as surely they would have driven it to collapse already otherwise.
Turning to reality however, the Wiki page mentions the following which helps explain the method of the suicide:
He looks a bit like the dorky guy in the RapidAdvance commercials.
Every time it comes on, I yell, "Ya money's here, Mista Walker!"
Aaron Strife
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There needs to be a rule that after a certain point you stop including unannounced candidates in polls.
I think it would be funny if Bernie finished 2nd and still got more primary votes than the GOP nominee.
HanShotFirst
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How much do we think the Clinton and Bush names will effect the outcome of the election? Surely the l Bush name is still surrounded by negativity? And obviously both candidates will try to separate themselves from their families so they can run on their own merits. If Hilary attacks GWB's legacy by comparing Jeb to him("We dont need another Bush" etc.), it would make her seem petty which is why she will attack failed GOP policies over a failed Bush.
There is no need to for obvious reasons. Let the surrogates and PAC's handle that. She is better served talking about the latter than the former. For all of Bill Clinton's success, he had some controversy's of his own and Bush will certainly try and tie her to Obama more than her husband.
Neither will be able to escape their family legacy. The question is will enough people care, remember or compare them to their families. The next barrier is how with that affect the ultimate turnout. There are a select few liberals on GAF who think it will be 2000 again since they say they wont turnout for either one. "No more dynasties" I think people on both sides will ultimately come out. Democrats to prevent another Bush and Republicans to prevent another Clinton. The right hated Bill Clinton just as much as the left hated George W. Bush.
Exit polling will give us an idea on how people voted. Was a vote for Hillary a vote for Obama/staying the course/Bill Clinton legacy or against Jeb Bush/George Bush Legacy/policies etc.. and vice versa.
SolidSnakeUS
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Bernie gaining ground!
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
LOL Major... you're better then that
"That was a bad question and you should feel bad"
And it looks like Socialist Alternative is trying to co-opt Bernie's popularity to increase their own cause by preaching their stances at his rallies. Maybe we'll see something like what Benji was talking about in regards to Ron Paul and his supporters gaining ground on the local level. And also I think it's silly that MLM's and Trots are criticizing his decision to run as a democrat as a support for bourgeois politics and yet supported Jill Stein's negligible run as a green as a revolutionary change of pace.
And it looks like Socialist Alternative is trying to co-opt Bernie's popularity to increase their own cause by preaching their stances at his rallies. Maybe we'll see something like what Benji was talking about in regards to Ron Paul and his supporters gaining ground on the local level. And also I think it's silly that MLM's and Trots are criticizing his decision to run as a democrat as a support for bourgeois politics and yet supported Jill Stein's negligible run as a green as a revolutionary change of pace.
Aaron Strife
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"Mostly True"
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm surprised I didn't see a Nate Silver article on Sanders earlier than this, basically just saying, "well Hilary doesn't need to do anything because her own favorability ratings haven't statistically moved and all of Bernie's support is super liberal white people."
"Unless your Bill Cosby."
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Sanders' big problem is that his support among non-whites is like 5%. His entire campaign plan is apparently to pull out an upset in NH or Iowa and hope it snowballs, even though statistically speaking that never actually happens.
Which comes when you're a senator from one of the whitest states in the nation versus the wife of the first black president.
Poodlestrike
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You know, I don't think this joke will ever stop being funny.
He hit his late term final form. He's so sure of this deal he's taking shots and daring any one to say something smart.
It's basically one of those things where you know you're right and you're hoping somebody tries you.
Obama and Biden are like "I wish a motherfucker would."
Obama better get that veto pen ready, because the GOP is already firing up their repeal legislation I am sure.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=171984395#post171984395
Probably already set aside the few minutes he needs to sign the paper. A bunch of "miscellaneous TBA" scattered throughout his schedule for the next two weeks.
PhoenixDark
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There is no Romney in this cycle. IE a candidate with a monopoly on cash, PAC support, and endorsements. There are multiple candidates this time with money/PACs and could presumably be the nominee. Bush, Walker, Rubio, and Ohio's governor. Each could be the nominee, whereas only Romney could have been the 2012 nominee.
Might even be able to add Cruz to that list considering he raised 50mil. The establishment would never approve but I've never seen a fringe/outsider candidate do what he's doing in terms of fundraising and grassroots support.
We're going to see that you can't really buy votes. Sure money helps but it's not the dominant factor when multiple candidates have money. Bush is going to learn this the hard way. I don't see any legit grassroots excitement for him.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Obama and Biden are like "I wish a motherfucker would."
Biden as hype-man
Aaron Strife
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Warren G Harding's wife is running?
If Bush gets the nomination, how did he do it?
Black Mamba
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Jeb Bush only raised under $400k from $200 or less donations. HAHAHAHA.
Anyway, if the Dems play the Iran thing intelligently, I think this could be a huge win. Hillary needs to roll with it during the general campaign.
I'd literally run an entire campaign that opposing the Iran deal equal wanting to go to war with Iran. A vote for GOP CANDIDATE is a vote for war.
edit: Jeb Bush donated more to his own campaign that the totality of small donors. HAHAHAHAHA
Anyway, if the Dems play the Iran thing intelligently, I think this could be a huge win. Hillary needs to roll with it during the general campaign.
I'd literally run an entire campaign that opposing the Iran deal equal wanting to go to war with Iran. A vote for GOP CANDIDATE is a vote for war.
edit: Jeb Bush donated more to his own campaign that the totality of small donors. HAHAHAHAHA
I agree that it's a closer race funds-wise. Still, it does appear that Bush will have more of it than Walker and Rubio. It won't be the Romney v. Santorum bludgeon it was in 2012 though. This coupled with what Cheebs said, that there really wasn't anyone to fall in love with in 2012 but this times there's Walker (and Rubio, and Cruz) means it's a completely different story even if you do see Bush as 'the Romney of the bunch'.
Another, related difference is that, should Walker win Iowa (or should Rubio start picking off states), the establishment won't intervene as strongly on Bush' behalf, like they did against the unelectable Gingrich. They're fine with either candidate this time. Cruz and Trump are different of course: I fully expect them to be Gingriched should they actually start to look like threats.
It's going to be instructive, certainly. If Bush does win, the 'old rules' that a) money is king and b) Republicans always fall in line behind the most electable candidate, might have proven stronger than we thought.
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I'm wondering if Martinez is just sitting this one (assuming 2016 is a done deal for Hildawg) with the hope of running in the future without a loss on her record.
She'd be a strong candidate, and she's young enough to have plenty of opportunities in the future.
Retromelon
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Lel whats wrong with hildawg? I hope yeb never becomes unhip
El Yebe! will always be hip
15 months out, Nevada isn't looking like much of a true swing state. The path to 270.. hmm.
http://origin.ralstonreports.com/bl...ws-nevada-senate-race-dead-heat-hillary-state
Clinton 48/43 over Marco Rubio
Clinton 48/42 over Donald Trump
Clinton 48/41 over Scott Walker
Clinton 49/37 over Jeb Bush
Senate race essentially tied, 42-41 for Masto.
http://origin.ralstonreports.com/bl...ws-nevada-senate-race-dead-heat-hillary-state
Clinton 48/43 over Marco Rubio
Clinton 48/42 over Donald Trump
Clinton 48/41 over Scott Walker
Clinton 49/37 over Jeb Bush
Senate race essentially tied, 42-41 for Masto.
PhoenixDark
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Dems have a powerful ground machine there. That plus the Hispanic population=I'd be shocked if Hillary lost there.
Roland_Gunner
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He's like Invader Zim only with Jeb! Someone with photoshop skillz should totally make Invader Jeb!
Was this posted yet? Donald Trump files financial disclosure, says he is worth 'TEN BILLION DOLLARS' Yes, the caps are his campaigns, as are these quotes:
Oh lord, they can't keep him out of the debates now!
Full steam ahead to amazing television!
I expect Masto will pull this one out once their campaign starts in earnest, especially since I'm assuming her name rec is lower than Heck's. And unlike most states in the country, the ground game of the Democrats in Nevada is just fucking incredible, as PD mentioned.
I wonder if he stands to make more money in his businesses in a democratic government than a republican one and this is just his way of making sure that takes place.
Aaron Strife
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Paint Nevada blue if the best result for the GOP is still a 5 point loss.
I'd call New Hampshire Lean D as well. Then we just need Virginny, which PPP will have a poll of out soon.
Also undecideds for the Senate race are heavily Obama voters. All the Senate drama will be in GOP-held seats.
Paint Nevada blue if the best result for the GOP is still a 5 point loss.
I'd call New Hampshire Lean D as well. Then we just need Virginny.
Also undecideds for the Senate race are heavily Obama voters. All the Senate drama will be in GOP-held seats.
Sabato gave a reason for why NH is a toss up. Will it stay that way through November? I doubt it. They will probably update the map sometime next year as we get our nominees.
Aaron Strife
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NH is elastic but it's been quite stable in presidential elections since the 96 election. Bush only won it by a few thousand votes in 2000, but Kerry won it by a smidge and Clinton (96) and Obama won it by convincing margins.
I think putting it as a toss-up is more cautionary than anything.
Because reasons... It's the same as Minnesota, no one should have any doubt it'll go blue.ivysaur12 said:
But I feel like Likely vs. Safe is splitting hairs anyway.
Coriolanus
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Didn't most of the share of generated wealth since the 08 crash go to the 0.1%? Thar we go den
Frank the Great
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I love how Hilldawg does not need Ohio nor Florida to win. She doesn't even need NH if she gets VA and NV.
So many paths to victory.
So many paths to victory.
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