Fenderputty
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Has anyone else done so well just trolling the field?
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PoliGAF 2015 |OT| Keep Calm and Diablos On
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Coriolanus
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If there ever was a moment where a candidate clearly showed that he was running in the wrong freaking primary, that was the one.
Like, dude. You do know you're trying to appeal to republicans, yeah?
Oh shit yes.
Definitely hoping he does this. Walker's a fucking clown and I want to see some clown boxing between him and Trump!
Macho Madness
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The rhetoric against the Iran deal may be working:
PhoenixDark
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Obama is a terrible communicator and can't sell his policies, example 5458454.
It shouldn't matter though. He only needs a handful of democrats to win this thing.
David Incorporated Esq.
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To grasp why the deal is reasonable and a good solution for now requires a fairly good understanding of the situation of the players involved, which is difficult and opaque to most people, especially when it's so easy to sink into the nationalist line of thought: "why are we even talking to Iran when we should be bombing them?"
As the ideas behind it are too cumbersome for most of the electorate, they're just going to put it out of their minds and fall into party line decision making.
Don't forget Rick Perry literally saying how immigrants were human beings and deserved to be treated as such and that being governor of Texas gave him more insight then the other guys. But then he got booed and jeered off the stage. Everyone tends to forget that moment for the "Oops" debacle, but this was the beginning of the end for him as the base started to reject him.
2016 GOP Primary Debate #1| Trump Ex: Republicans Divided
Ezra Klein did a lengthy interview with Bernie Sanders that's up at Vox. As expected, 80% of it is about economics. He talks a bit about climate change and foreign policy.
Chafee literally has no media attention at all...
Ezra Klein did a lengthy interview with Bernie Sanders that's up at Vox. As expected, 80% of it is about economics. He talks a bit about climate change and foreign policy.
Chafee literally has no media attention at all...
Frank the Great
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Who?
PhoenixDark
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But Bernie never talks about black issues!
(a fourth of BLM "demands" list is about economics btw).
Aaron Strife
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There's also that Monmouth poll of New Hampshire where Trump is at 24, double the next best result (Bush at 12).
it's really happening guys.
speculawyer
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Yeah, the 2-liter bottle is an anomaly of history. Introduced in the early 1970's when the push for the metric system was moving forward. It definitely caught on.
But then the Reagan administration pulled the plug on the conversion movement.
Yet the 2 liter bottle survived. Go Figure.
I was also going to post this. It's a pretty good read and makes clear one important point about Bernie: he isn't actually pushing any policies that are out of the mainstream.
Unfortunately I think his responses on globalization are pretty poor. I'm especially disappointed with his suggestion that immigrants make Americans poorer, which is just not correct and honestly displays the weakness of his populist approach. Vermont doesn't have to worry too much about the people of color vote.
He still doesn't. Ezra lobbed this across the plate for him -- the question is literally "you talk a lot about class, but do we need any specific policies to help deal with racial issues also?" And he pivots from that to talking explicitly about class issues again and saying "we need economic policies to help everyone." Then he remembers what the actual question was and says "also, yeah, racism is bad."
This was his opportunity to rehabilitate his message on race. Unfortunately I think that just is his actual message on race.
Yeah, that was more the point I was trying to get across.
PhoenixDark
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Sanders recently gave a passionate speech about "black issues" at SCLC; I'm not sure it was mentioned here. My point remains that he is being unfairly targeted as not speaking on black issues, when in reality he has done so one many occasions - even before the recent dust up. Even the Klein interview includes this. Not to mention the fact that the BLM platform includes a variety of economic based issues that he directly addresses.
I can't tell if this is just white guilt or something else going on here, but I'm done defending Sanders from these types of attacks. Makes me sound like a Sanders supporter.
I can't tell if this is just white guilt or something else going on here, but I'm done defending Sanders from these types of attacks. Makes me sound like a Sanders supporter.
because you are one. Didn't you say you were voting for him in the primary?
Plinko
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It was only a matter of time. Do this, Trump. Do this.
He's 100% correct, by the way. Walker has the worst record of any of the candidates.
Embrace it, man.
speculawyer
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Why do you say that? Anything really that bad come out?
But let's assume that the GOP actually kills all PP funding.
They are gonna reap the whirlwind from that. When people realize that means cutting off funding for birth control to low income women such that we end up with a flood of babies born on medicaid to mothers that will collect more welfare . . . well the backlash won't be pretty.
Retromelon
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/28/new-planned-parenthood-video-focuses-on-payment-for-fetal-tissue/
What a distasteful story. Planned parenthood's reputation is in tatters.
They'll be fine. No one but FOX is jumping on this because they remember the ACRON and Sherrod stories and how they were both fabricated and they helped spread the lie.
Retromelon
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There's a grotesque documentary accompanying the article in which people are discussing how to get the most money out of what they're doing.
Also, they got hacked and an anti abortion group is taking the credit
Also, they got hacked and an anti abortion group is taking the credit
I know, but no one is going to run with it because they remember the ACORN tape and how that was faked. Only FOX is dumb enough to fall for the same trick four times.
PhoenixDark
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Obviously the track record of these conservative fuckboys deserves to be questioned...but that video is disgusting and I'd be fine with an investigation. If it's a handful of people selling shit under the table, that's one thing. But if it's actually Planned Parenthood being directly involved and can be proven, they should suffer the consequences.
Okay, Trump's whispering more sweet nothings to the GOP base, and they're loving it.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015...ve-palin-in-my-admin-in-an-official-capacity/
NYCmetsfan
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They tried this with the Philly doctor's trial. And have been showing shocking photos and videos since forever, have you ever walked by an anti-abortion rally? People aren't going to radically change their minds. Yes, abortion is a horrifying thing to witness and some people make horrible comments, but remember this is just the right trying to control women's bodies. It's them trying to bolster their efforts to defund planned parenthood. Its not going to work unless they want to shut down the government (which they won't do)
OMG, this just keeps getting insaner every day.
A grotesque documentary which is 90% one person's interview and the rest taken out of context. Like I said.
He is somehow surpassing my wildest dreams! How did I ever get through an election before him? What will I do when he's gone?
PhoenixDark
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That's not even the first time I've heard that almost word for word.
It's been a republican talking point for years now.
They can feel free to keep saying it, though, because I'm pretty sure it's not going to gain them any more black voters...
speculawyer
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Retromelon
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Dr Ginde, verbatim: "No, and the, I think a per item thing works a little better, just because we can see how much we can get out of it." (Discussing the pricing of fetal tissue)
Of course, the legitimacy of the source is suspect, and so on, but i fail to muster a sense of context where that sounds like a reasonable statement.
I mean, it seems pretty straightforward to me. Obviously if fetuses and abortion techniques differ in different situations, different amounts of tissue will be harvestable, so a per item charge rather than a per fetus charge is just better accounting. This is utterly consistent with Planned Parenthood's explanation that they charge only what's necessary to cover their costs -- more tissue means more cost.
I fail to see the outrage? If there was a quote where the doctors talked about whether FedEx or UPS was a better choice for shipping the samples, would that also horrify you?
Retromelon
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No outrage from me. It just all sounds terrible.
They're efficiently using their resources and taking utility into account!
It's okay. Nobody is going to listen to it.
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