Roland_Gunner
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Yeah, if Trump is still running strong in early 2016 GOP money groups will start pushing lower ranked candidates out so they can consolidate around a couple of alternatives.
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Yeah, if Trump is still running strong in early 2016 GOP money groups will start pushing lower ranked candidates out so they can consolidate around a couple of alternatives.
Fenderputty
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Amazing.
The Technomancer
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Sorry Rand
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thepotatoman
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thepotatoman
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Seems like very little changed for trump. Just need to see where Bush and Walker lands.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
LOL at Fiorina being double-digits. Definitely the Herman Cain of this cycle. She'll implode soon enough.
I expect the poll to be similar to that NBC/Survey Monkey poll result.
Also, Trump leading with evangelicals? WHAT? I seriously wonder what would have happened if he would have had to answer that last question at the debate.
I expect the poll to be similar to that NBC/Survey Monkey poll result.
Also, Trump leading with evangelicals? WHAT? I seriously wonder what would have happened if he would have had to answer that last question at the debate.
Obviously. I mean Trump and even Christie destroyed him in the debate.
Holy shit, Trump really is the frontrunner. I was just kidding when I made that joke.
Christie did most of the damage, but goddamn was Trump's finisher brutal.
I honestly can't believe how much coverage Trump managed to get this weekend. On CNN, literally every show with the exception of Zakaria GPS started with Trump news. He is going to be studied for generations to come in marketing with regards to dominating the news cycle.
I honestly can't believe how much coverage Trump managed to get this weekend. On CNN, literally every show with the exception of Zakaria GPS started with Trump news. He is going to be studied for generations to come in marketing with regards to dominating the news cycle.
Dude learned from the master Vincent Kennedy McMahon
Goddamn Christie got merked. Trump's numbers got eaten into a bit it looks like, likely due to others giving half-decent performances.
RustyNails
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Lol at Huckabee coming in 6th place. If the Huckster or Frothy don't do well in Iowa, they're done (honestly, they're already done, but at least they can dream).
Yea, that's absolutely bonkers. Something insane is going on here, this can't be right.
RustyNails
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Lol @ Christie
When can we expect this blowhard to drop out? Dude missed the golden opportunity in 2012. He could have even made Obama sweat. The crown was his for the taking and he just shat the bed spectacularly.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Bobby Jindal almost out of the kids table. He can almost taste being watched on national television for a non-shooting again.
Rubio's numbers still suck for being the guy who seems like he should eventually be the nominee.
Rubio's numbers still suck for being the guy who seems like he should eventually be the nominee.
He didn't stand a chance back then either, he wasn't disciplined enough for a general election. He'd have yelled at a marine who disagreed with him at a town hall and ended his campaign right there.
Aaron Strife
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Look I'm just saying the GOP voting base has proven time and time again that they've both lost their grip on reality and don't give a shit.
Not surprised Paul dropped off. He was humiliated in that debate. Might as well come into the next one wearing a dunce cap.
Not surprised Paul dropped off. He was humiliated in that debate. Might as well come into the next one wearing a dunce cap.
Roland_Gunner
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Iowa is part of the Walker's midwest "base". He needs to be winning there. PPP just pointed out that he was at 23% the last time they polled Iowa.
Black Republican
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Walker V Bush V Rubio in the next debates me think, they wont mention trump as Rubio hinted
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Not surprised at all. He said absolutely nothing in the debate. Nobody attacked him. Once they start attacking his record, he's done.
I'm stunned Jeb! is still in double-digits.
Aaron Strife
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Also find it just fascinating when you consider the state of the race just a few weeks ago. Trump was leading, but Walker and Bush were never too far behind and everyone else (save Rubio and Paul I guess) were practically nonentities.
Now you're telling me that fucking Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina are in the top 5? The undecided voters aren't flocking to the frontrunners, they're propping up the joke candidates.
Now you're telling me that fucking Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina are in the top 5? The undecided voters aren't flocking to the frontrunners, they're propping up the joke candidates.
speculawyer
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Great point Thompson gunner, Trump gave walker a smack down in his regional turf.
Retweeted by PPPPolls:
lol, GOP...
That might be a decent strategy. I still think Trump is going to blow up. After that I think there'll be a dwindling field to flock to, and Republicans are going to be hesitant to hold their nose and vote for another "Romney" with Bush. They were already told to vote for the establishment candidate last time. I don't really see that working again. So that leaves Walker as a sort of middle ground between what the crazies want and what the establishment wants.
I really hope while he's in the lead Trump takes out Walker with some punches, though.
lol, GOP...
That might be a decent strategy. I still think Trump is going to blow up. After that I think there'll be a dwindling field to flock to, and Republicans are going to be hesitant to hold their nose and vote for another "Romney" with Bush. They were already told to vote for the establishment candidate last time. I don't really see that working again. So that leaves Walker as a sort of middle ground between what the crazies want and what the establishment wants.
I really hope while he's in the lead Trump takes out Walker with some punches, though.
Black Republican
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i dont beleive Christie dropped in the polls because of bridge -gate, its only because he hugged Evil Obama.
PhoenixDark
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Agreed. Walker is sitting pretty waiting for the inevitable fall of Trump. The true danger is Cruz IMO. He could split the conservative vote and perhaps hand Bush the victory.
I think Walker, Rubio, Cruz, and Bush will be the last men standing. I used to think Rand would be apart of that group but now...I'm stunned at how bad his campaign has been.
Brawndo Addict
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Voters are clearly tired of career-politicians not getting the results they want. I can see people reasoning that perhaps the only way to move forward is with a candidate completely outside of politics altogether.
Now obviously there's a big difference between a Perot/Bloomberg and Trump/Carson, but it's not like they have good non-political options available.
How Trump is winning women though, that's inextricable.
Now obviously there's a big difference between a Perot/Bloomberg and Trump/Carson, but it's not like they have good non-political options available.
How Trump is winning women though, that's inextricable.
Yes. I doubt he'd be leading in every GOP demo if he was flavor of the month.
Aaron Strife
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I think so. He just needed to have a good debate and by all accounts he did.
Its still possible that his candidacy will implode but man, the days turn to months and he's still on top.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I do feel like Trump has held too wide a lead for too long to be considered dismissable. At this point, I think a lot of his supporters want him and only him so badly that they'll stay home on election day if he isn't the nominee. His appeal is that he isn't a politician, his base won't turn around and vote for Jeb!.
Black Republican
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eh, its only been one debate and 2 months since he announced?
Coriolanus
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The things i'd do for a Graham vs Clinton debate.
He has a broad coalition, he is leading among groups that play to the strength of other candidates, like Huckabee with Evangelicals while leading among moderates. Something that broad doesn't just flame out overnight.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I think Trump is dangerous for the GOP largely because his base consists of people who otherwise wouldn't give a shit. If any other candidate drops out, their base will move on to some other candidate. If Trump drops out, some of his base may go to Cruz but I think the bulk are going to say "fuck it, I don't care any more". He seems to have a pool of voters all to himself that the rest of the party can't access.
Black Republican
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anyone have that link to the debate live commentary? cant find it on youtube
It just shows how much republican propaganda has really pushed anti-government, anti-establishment sentiment. Look at that post I had up a bit. 41% of republicans in Iowa are for someone who has never held office in their life. They're fed up with everything and while I can't say the bulk are going to say "fuck it" and not vote... well, I think a good portion of them will fight to the very last and if Trump or someone does run 3rd party, good fucking luck to 'em.
The establishment can't push the narrative that the base has to hold their nose and vote for someone who can win this time. They tried it twice. The bases kicked and screamed and ultimately voted Romney, but even that didn't work. They're going to rebel this whole cycle and it's going to be hilarious.
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