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PoliGAF 2015 |OT| Keep Calm and Diablos On
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Coriolanus
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The other thread mentioned that they announced that they'd try it beforehand, so i doubt that'll do anything to quell the conspiracy theories.
I am for the womens health issues
RastaMentality
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People claim the Internet made Americans care about issues in the news cycle for much shorter periods but I feel like these stories are just generally boring. I stopped caring to hear about the emails after the first week.
RustyNails
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Trump is on FIRE
RustyNails
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Jeb is getting rekked
No doubt. This is going to be catnip for their primary voters. Holy hell.
And I'll float another tinfoil hat theory:
Bill Clinton nudged Donald Trump into this, knowing that there was a good chance that Trump would dominate political news coverage for as long as he's the race. Once Trump fades, we'll hear, "But what about those emails?" and the response will be "that's old news. It was covered thoroughly. C'mon, man."
I have to admit: I do enjoy his banter with them. He's damn good at it.
RustyNails
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I'm surprised at how well he is handling the press lol
You shouldn't be, this is what he excels at. Wait until he gets on twitter later though
No; same position he gave before -- depends on how he is treated
and considering how thin his skin is....
I enjoyed that immensely. Reporters throwing shade at him from left and right, and he just turned it into a positive.
RustyNails
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"24 million people watched the debate. 24 million. Did you think they tuned in to watch Jeb Bush?"
oh, except fox of course. dat salt
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thepotatoman
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It's funny seeing all these pundits who seem to be in flat out denial, finally having to face the racism, sexism, and bigotry that's been at the heart of the party since Reagan made his speech at the Neshoba County Fair.
Sure Trump's not the nominee yet, but he is unquestionably the frontrunner at this point.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
If Trump, Fiorina and Carson are taken out:
Just like the polls a couple weeks ago showed. Walker is in huge trouble.
RustyNails
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He's an even better storyteller
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thepotatoman
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It's amazing how much Walker has dropped since the debates. I guess he wasn't ready for the national league after all.
That's because he's still a hawkish Dem.
Social liberalism is only a poison pill to the people controlling the purse-strings in the GOP.
speculawyer
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Live:
http://news.yahoo.com/video/yahoo-news-special-report-180000670.html
He is really good at crowd work.
Jack Remington
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Walker is in huge trouble? He's 2nd behind Bush with in those polls.
Rubio is the one who really has an uphill struggle. Though I suspect he's really gunning for a VP slot. I can't imagine he really believes he can win this.
Rubio is the one who really has an uphill struggle. Though I suspect he's really gunning for a VP slot. I can't imagine he really believes he can win this.
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thepotatoman
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There's only one post debate poll in the RCP average, and that might have been added after that image was made.
Every single poll since the debate has him losing like 5 or more percentage points, putting him back in the middle of the huge pack.
Not Trump's fault but only in America is doubling and tripling the sanctions on Iran a viable policy. All other countries involved in the deal accept that lifting sanctions in return for no nukes in Iran is a good trade. Other countries understand that that's what the sanctions were put in place for. To put pressure on Iran to make them come to the negotiation table.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yes, because if Trump falters, Jeb gets the vast majority of his votes. Walker doesn't. That's a huge, huge problem for Walker.
PhoenixDark
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So your argument is that when Trump falters, Bush will become the front runner correct?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Not really. That poll shows that if Trump, Fiorina, and Carson are all out, that's what happens. I find it hard to believe that every single one of Fiorina and Carson's votes go to Walker. Many have to be going to Bush as well.
At this point, I honestly don't know if Trump will falter. Walker needs to start ratcheting up the crazy if he wants to get back in this thing.
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thepotatoman
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I'm pretty sure that chart just distributes the new votes evenly.
I'm pretty sure there hasn't been any polls for figuring out who wins in a smaller field. Just second choice, which means so little when there's 17 candidates to choose from.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
That seems bizarre that they would do that, especially when they have actual polling data from just recently they could use.
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thepotatoman
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You don't have that data unless you either ask each respondent to rank their choices, so you can filter candidates out instant runoff style, or just ask them to choose from a list minus those candidates. None of those polls have that data, as far as I know.
PhoenixDark
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No one candidate will get all the votes from the faltered candidates...but I simply don't believe Trump voters will move to Bush in mass numbers. Trump voters are likely very focused on immigration, why would they move to Bush in mass?
Walker and Cruz will be take a lot of those voters, perhaps Rubio too.
Walker and Cruz will be take a lot of those voters, perhaps Rubio too.
Keep going after Trump, Jeb. He will destroy you and you will not recover.
Press conference was masterful. But everyone should know that. This is what Trump is. He's a showman. You see how his voice changes and his tone inflects and all that shit when he's telling a joke? Mitt Romney can't even.
Press conference was masterful. But everyone should know that. This is what Trump is. He's a showman. You see how his voice changes and his tone inflects and all that shit when he's telling a joke? Mitt Romney can't even.
"24 million people watched the debate. 24 million. Did you think they tuned in to watch Jeb Bush?"
What's even funnier about this line is that it is completely true!
Coriolanus
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Ahm, no? Like, not even remotely. Most of the sanctions were put in place as retaliation for the embassy mess, which most likely only happened because the US accepted giving treatment to the Shah. Only the most recent sanctions happened as a result of the nukes, and even then one could easily argue that they happened more due to the israeli lobby + ahmadinejad's dickish behaviour than anything else.
Officerrob
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Trump is going to delay saying anything of substance as long as possible
NYCmetsfan
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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Nah, he's already talked about the GOAT move of drilling in a war zone to steal ISIS's oil, can't go wrong.
NYCmetsfan
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The israel lobby in Russia and China?
speculawyer
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I don't think more crazy will help walker. He seems to have some of the most crazy views already. He just lacks charisma and presence. He's a tool and everyone knows it. He is an ideological zombie that can't think on his own. That is why the Koch brothers love him.
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