PhoenixDark
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Benji alert...
Granholm...ugh. I did hear she recently left a Clinton PAC. Wonder what's next.
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PoliGAF 2015 |OT| Keep Calm and Diablos On
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Benji alert...
Granholm...ugh. I did hear she recently left a Clinton PAC. Wonder what's next.
BertramCooper
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At least you Michigan folks no longer have to worry about Dave Brandon running for governor or senator or something.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2015-08-15/mark-halperin-rides-in-style-with-the-donald-
Ride on Trump's Helicopter.
Ride on Trump's Helicopter.
BertramCooper
Banned
Thankfully history will, in many ways, vindicate him.
(And then Texas will rewrite history textbooks.)
Has he really though? Maybe around the next debate, we'll see him announce his return to the Trump campaign and an apology.
I would love if this was part of an elaborate plan.
Aaron Strife
Banned
It's better that his approval ratings are average-ish than so low he can be hanged like a noose around the nominee.
If it ends up being like... 47% Hillary/Bernie will be fine campaigning with him.
Campaign season after the conventions will get the soft leaning Democratic voters in line. Obama's only underwater 4-5%, easily recoverable.
What Democrats have to worry about is something like that story in the OT about Russia's troop buildup. If Putin were to invade and annex eastern Ukraine we would never hear the end of stories about U.S. weakness and Obama's approval would sink to 40%.
What Democrats have to worry about is something like that story in the OT about Russia's troop buildup. If Putin were to invade and annex eastern Ukraine we would never hear the end of stories about U.S. weakness and Obama's approval would sink to 40%.
They are going to have to campaign with him regardless. The Al Gore model can and will not work. He has to get the Coalition he built out for most likely Hillary to have any chance of winning.
It wasn't all positive, but quite overwhelming. He sounded like a campaign surrogate for most of these interviews. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah, campaign season will probably boost his approval ratings too. His approval rating was terrible in late 2011 (sub-40s in some polls) and it was above 50% when he was re-elected. It's good he's getting stuff done now so he has more to point to than just first term stuff.
There's a Kernel Sanders joke there somewhere.
Aaron Strife
Banned
That GOP top 3. Jesus. What a joke.
Just realized those were the three with 0 political experience lol.
speculawyer
Member
It's amazing. 60% of the kernels and not a single professional politician.
GOP base be mad. Real mad. Impotent rage.
titiklabingapat
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I like how the media is trying to work the Dems into this false equivalency narrative that voters are angry by citing Sanders, conveniently ignoring Clinton's overwhelming support. Not even close because Sanders is at least a respected and competent politician.
And_Gignac
Member
Updated results:
The Clinton vs Bush hype train keeps derailing. Poor Politico.
http://whotv.com/2015/08/13/cast-your-kernel-results-3/
That Dem vs. Rep ratio.
Aaron Strife
Banned
No one for Lincoln Chafee?
I'd probably throw one in there out of pity.
edit: Oh he was just cut out of the picture.
Scott Walker is in NINTH
I'd probably throw one in there out of pity.
edit: Oh he was just cut out of the picture.
Scott Walker is in NINTH
speculawyer
Member
Updated results:
The Clinton vs Bush hype train keeps derailing. Poor Politico.
http://whotv.com/2015/08/13/cast-your-kernel-results-3/
That Dem vs. Rep ratio.
Oh poor Lincoln Chafee . . . nothing.
BWAHAHAHA on the GOP side. Where is Mid-west Wonderboy Scott Walker?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Iowa rates Trump as the best on terrorism, what?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ps-leads-in-everything-besides-the-horserace/
Jeb "let's go back to Iraq" Bush and Scott "taking on the teacher's union is just like taking on ISIS" Walker are 3rd and 5th, but Trump's plan is to drill for oil in a war zone.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ps-leads-in-everything-besides-the-horserace/
Jeb "let's go back to Iraq" Bush and Scott "taking on the teacher's union is just like taking on ISIS" Walker are 3rd and 5th, but Trump's plan is to drill for oil in a war zone.
speculawyer
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No, it would be a brokered convention:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokered_convention
Since no one would have a majority of delegates, they'd need to horse trade & figure out who wins. And I certainly could see the establishment trying to boot trump out.
speculawyer
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C'mon. He already told us he has a foolproof plan to beat ISIS. But he can't tell us . . . it has to remain secret. Oh ye of little faith.
And_Gignac
Member
lol dat Walker 4%
Also (not sure if this is the same thing you guys are talking about, but):
Different thing. Thats a straw poll. Voters are normally politically active.
lol dat Walker 4%
Also (not sure if this is the same thing you guys are talking about, but):
This is an outlier.
I hate the fact that Iowa is important in politics.
Because Nebraska's biggest city and my hometown is also the broadcast point for anyone that gets TV in the western half Iowa, we get all the Iowa clusterfuck of ads in ADDITION to the nebraska ones.
I've seriously seen stretches of 12 political ad breaks. Entire fucking ad break is politics.
brain melting.
Because Nebraska's biggest city and my hometown is also the broadcast point for anyone that gets TV in the western half Iowa, we get all the Iowa clusterfuck of ads in ADDITION to the nebraska ones.
I've seriously seen stretches of 12 political ad breaks. Entire fucking ad break is politics.
brain melting.
RustyNails
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I would pay $100 to go watch a Trump stand-up. He is good lol
RastaMentality
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If the entire country was important, there'd seriously have to be some regulations. I couldn't stand ads for a whole year and a half.
Black Republican
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he's for affirmative action? hmm wonder how the base the take it
Lucky Forward
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Here's the Donald's Immigration White Paper
Actually a pretty interesting plan. There's actually some stuff that makes sense in here (raising the prevailing wage for H-1Bs),
Actually a pretty interesting plan. There's actually some stuff that makes sense in here (raising the prevailing wage for H-1Bs),
I'm so happy he's starting to put out some serious policy proposals. It is helping to add to the legitimacy that is the only thing his campaign is lacking. #TelfonDon
ItWasMeantToBe19
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This is the worst plan I've seen in a minute. The amount of money needed to do all these things will be absurd.
See this is why he is different that other rich candidates in the past, he is just a natural when it comes to talking with people. Even if you don't like the guy he's giving kids helicopter rides.
RastaMentality
Banned
Trump's infamous Wall will go down as one of the best things this cycle. Kills me every time.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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His policy is basically coming from the 4th season of Arrested Development. I'm expecting him to hire a Mongolian horde to build this wall. Life imitates art.
RustyNails
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That's actually a good start. Raising the prevailing wage is not just exclusive to H1b, but for all labor force. It should, and must be raised across the board.
Black Republican
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FOX poll: Trump 25%, Carson 12%, Cruz 10%, Bush 9%, Huckabee 6%, Walker 6%, Fiorina 5%, Kasich 4%, Rubio 4%, Christie 3%, Paul 3%.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Carson is poaching Walker's voters.
I fully expect crazy-time Walker next debate.
Jack Remington
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Was Romney ever this low? I may be misremembering, but I was sure he was always in at least a somewhat strong position in the race.
If you're one of these election pundits saying Trump, Carson, etc will flame out, you believe that Walker or Rubio can come back from 6% or 4%? Bush looks to be the only establishment candidate with a prayer.
If you're one of these election pundits saying Trump, Carson, etc will flame out, you believe that Walker or Rubio can come back from 6% or 4%? Bush looks to be the only establishment candidate with a prayer.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I expect Rubio to win this nomination in the end, but I don't know if a candidate has stayed around 5% for months on end and then won a nomination.
Jack Remington
Banned
Rubio is done, IMO.
I never got what people saw in him. He's an okay speaker, but he looks like a 10 year old perpetually on the verge of tears. Not the slightest bit presidential.
I never got what people saw in him. He's an okay speaker, but he looks like a 10 year old perpetually on the verge of tears. Not the slightest bit presidential.
Romney was always either leading or second to the flavor of the month. His support was always stable though while no one else's was, and he was clearly in a tier above the pack. This led most everyone to acknowledge him as the frontrunner when you also considered his money and establishment support.
Black Republican
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compare that to 17 people though
PhoenixDark
Banned
How is he done? Anyone who watched 2012 saw a variety of clowns rise to the top only to fall. Trump hasn't fallen yet but will. Does anyone think pro gay marriage Carly Fiorna is a serious contestant? What about Ben Carson? Come on. The "serious" candidates plus Cruz will rise. Long term people like Carson and Fiorna don't have the money to last.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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He's the only one of the establishment candidates (Bush/Walker/Rubio) who comes off as not stupid in public. Bush and Walker I just think are way too dumb to get through this process. Neither are close to as smart as Romney was.
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