Retromelon
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I dont know, the part where he spoke out against the unfair taxation of people with over ten million $ was persuasive
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PoliGAF 2015 |OT| Keep Calm and Diablos On
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thepotatoman
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Wasn't immigration policy literally the only thing that made him a "moderate"?
That, and supposedly his support for Common Core.
speculawyer
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Where can I watch this?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I don't know, state enforced slut shaming of teen rape victims seems very moderate to me.
Tarkus
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NM. That's not it
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I wonder why the people so aghast at those Planned Parenthood videos want the babies of brown people to be deported, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Coriolanus
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That'd be one way to try to lock down the black vote.
What i wouldn't give for that matchup to be real, tho.
Jeb is making the same mistake as Mitt. He wants to be a strong moderate but still feels the need to pander to the right. His clumsy attempts to pander and use the language of the far-right falls flat because he can't actually outflank other conservative candidates and at the same time he alienates the very people he would need to succeed as a moderate general election candidate. His "anchor babies" comment is the same as Mitt's "self-deportation," a surefire way to alienate Hispanic voters and anyone else for whom immigration is a litmus test issue.
Manmademan
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I'd bet you $100 cash money that Jeb doesn't get the nomination.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The loony right that seems to think that the 14th amendment wouldn't have to be repealed to get Trump/Walker's plan to work are very bad at history:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/poli...tely-protects-birthright-citizenship-20150819
http://www.nationaljournal.com/poli...tely-protects-birthright-citizenship-20150819
Watched the whole thing and actually thought Trump did a pretty good job. As much of a dick as he is, he is a very charismatic individual and contrasting that with Jeb! or Milquetoast Walker, he will inevitably generate more excitement and passion.
Bam Bam Baklava
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I think we all know he has energy and charisma but on the actual details it was pretty terrifying. The idea that the government can just pick and choose whose citizenship is "real" or not. The idea that he thinks he could send ground troops to Iraq or Syria and get the oil with minimal losses or money spent.
His conspiracy belief that Iran is both fighting and supporting ISIS is either just him being crazy or a fundamental ignorance of the conflict between sunni and shiite.
BlackGhost
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On the details part with trump I love how he always says stuff like... I'll get one of my good friends to handle "insert country/problem" he's very smart.
Boom handled
Boom handled
get on the prediction sweepstakes. You know that claim has to be challenged. If not Jeb then who?
Coriolanus
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I mean, when was the last time a CIC flat-out stated that they'd carry a planned military op and they'd take loads of losses, but fuckit, we'll do it anyway?
speculawyer
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Well, they are just pointing to racist 2 justice dissent from more than 100 years ago. I think they would have a better chance at a constitutional amendment than overturning that decision.
JesseEwiak
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Screw it, I'm in for Cruz. Go big or go home.
Retromelon
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Thats one vote for the garlean emperor cast by jesse
Poodlestrike
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I don't think he's running this year, weirdly enough.
speculawyer
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I can't believe we are debating whether we should become a pirate nation.
And the Iran/ISIS stuff...he is more ignorant than water boy. Amazing.
Well, I think Trump's chances are dropping. He's suggesting non sensical things. Then again, it is the GOP primary.
I feel he might be disguised as one of these people. Are we sure he's not actually Jim Gilmore?
Sign me up for Bush. We've seen this play before.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=175943039&postcount=16263
^Link for entry and state of play.
^Link for entry and state of play.
Poodlestrike
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Well, there's no way to be sure, since nobody has ever heard of Jim Gilmore.
Have they been seen in the same room together?
I'm not sure. I legit think at one of these debates Jim Gilmore might rip of his mask, revealing his sheer, horrendous brilliance, incinerating all the other contenders and immediately jumping to 85% in the Iowa polling.
speculawyer
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HA! Got Eeee!
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Rubio, there's no way he loses to guys as stupid as Bush or Walker. The establishment will frame Trump or Cruz for murder before letting those guys get the nomination either.
lmao
Tarkus
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Trump. The wall is too beautiful for the others to climb.
"Fundamental Ignorance" would be a fantastic alternate campaign slogan for Trump.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Some people on Twitter were speculating that the establishment would be scared off because this is Jeb's final form and it fucking sucks. I wonder what it would take for the establishment to be scared off of Jeb.
speculawyer
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
If this is for something dumb like an avatar bet, I'm out. No betting for me.
Nothing has been decided yet.
Retromelon
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America its time for some cruz control!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...00ee88-4682-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html
Some in the donor class are thinking of abandoning Bush for Kasich. Yeeesh
Some in the donor class are thinking of abandoning Bush for Kasich. Yeeesh
Roland_Gunner
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Evidently some of his money bag donors are sniffing around other options:
Washington Post said:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...00ee88-4682-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html
I'd rather the temp tag, it'll be funnier and no one can wuss out when BASED AND GLORIOUS TRUMP wins.
Does anybody have recommendations for good places online to get a daily political news roundup?
Normally i get most of my news from listening to NPR to/from work and from checking this thread (and any OT political threads) daily. But at least until after the primaries, i think i need to take a break from poliGaf, as this place and all of the OT threads have become a fucking shitshow.
The Trump circus was funny for a while, but I'm getting kinda tired and disinterested in the constant jokes and headlines about him. Then the only discussions that aren't about Trump are Bernie vs Clinton, which are just fucking terrible. In the OT you've got the "both sides are the same" crowd calling anybody willing to vote for Hillary a corporate sellout, and the condescending Hillary stans getting their rocks off feeling superior to everyone else, yelling at each other for 90% of the posts. And in this thread, when we're not talking about Trump, it's always pointing and laughing at Sanders and his supporters, with many of the posters here, who i normally love reading, showing nothing but utter contempt and disdain for anyone who dares to like Sanders or show skepticism about Queen Hillary.
As someone who is supporting Sanders in the primary and also planning to vote Clinton in the very likely event she's the nominee (i don't have any huge problems with Clinton's current positions outside of maybe foreign policy), i just don't really feel welcome here anymore. I hate how fucking long campaign season is.
Normally i get most of my news from listening to NPR to/from work and from checking this thread (and any OT political threads) daily. But at least until after the primaries, i think i need to take a break from poliGaf, as this place and all of the OT threads have become a fucking shitshow.
The Trump circus was funny for a while, but I'm getting kinda tired and disinterested in the constant jokes and headlines about him. Then the only discussions that aren't about Trump are Bernie vs Clinton, which are just fucking terrible. In the OT you've got the "both sides are the same" crowd calling anybody willing to vote for Hillary a corporate sellout, and the condescending Hillary stans getting their rocks off feeling superior to everyone else, yelling at each other for 90% of the posts. And in this thread, when we're not talking about Trump, it's always pointing and laughing at Sanders and his supporters, with many of the posters here, who i normally love reading, showing nothing but utter contempt and disdain for anyone who dares to like Sanders or show skepticism about Queen Hillary.
As someone who is supporting Sanders in the primary and also planning to vote Clinton in the very likely event she's the nominee (i don't have any huge problems with Clinton's current positions outside of maybe foreign policy), i just don't really feel welcome here anymore. I hate how fucking long campaign season is.
I have no idea.
Retromelon
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Fuck me i just killed another enormous waterbug/roach. This shitbags are torturing me
JesseEwiak
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DailyKosElections (and not only go to DailyKosElections, not the main site) usually has a pretty good roundup of the daily news, and has a bonus, all discussion of the Democratic Presidential primary there is largely banned, and there's usually good stuff in the comments.
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