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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black

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Me and everyone I know is terrified of the possibility of Trump winning the election. And we don't even live in the US.
It's because it has legitimate consequences.

Trump blows up trade agreements? Global recession.

Trump says fuck the environment. Global effort to stop it is done.

Trump starts playing general in the middle east? Refugee crisis possibly even worse for Europe, Russia goes all in on the fuckery on European soil.

I mean, you can't overstate the security, economic, social and environmental consequences a Trump presidency would have for the rest of the world. The USA has been the guy on the steering wheel of the world for over 100 years now, the political, military, economic and moral superpower. Now, can you imagine the Tangerine man baby getting his try to fulfill that role?
 
Tomorrow is the most important vote I'll ever have casted in my life. Been able to vote since 2001.

Yes, 2008 was significant, but that election was also a referendum on the previous 8 years. What it represented mattered but Obama's opponent was irrelevant.

This election, however, matters in ways I never thought. What Trump represents is as vile a thing I have ever seen in this country, politically.


This will be the first presidential my grandmother won't be around for. Four years ago she couldn't vote since she had been afflicted by Alzheimer's. In 2008 she proudly vote for Barack Obama. I remember her telling me she was hopeful America has turned a corner on the subject of race.

My grandmother has always been the most influential person in my life. Growing up my parents worked very late so every day was off to my grandparents place. Grandpa died in '95 after a brutal battle with cancer. Since then it was me and her a lot of the time.

My grandmother represents everything Trump does not love about this country. She was an immigrant in the 60s. She taught herself English within months. She entered the workforce as a new immigrant. She saved her money and built her own business in the early 70s. In the 80s my grandparents built a new business together.

When my grandfather got sick, she took care of him, managed to continue to help raise me, help my parents as always, take care of their big 2 story house (which she bought as just land in the 70s) all on her own, send her sisters money when they needed it.

She taught me so much. And most of all, to never discriminate, to never put people down for what they cannot control. Her house was always open to people. It didn't matter who they were. Nurses who came over left with a stuffed animal in their hands if they had kids or fruits from her garden if not (or sometimes both!).

To her, America was an amazing place. She left such hardship in Europe to eventually find herself here, build her family, set her seeds by being an independent woman and always being thankful for what this country allowed her to accomplish.

She's the type of person that would wait 5 hours in line tomorrow to vote against that hateful sack of shit. She's always been a reliable Democrat but the type of hate he represents would have drove her nuts.

And then to throw in the fact that Hillary Clinton, a woman who has gone through hell trying to prove herself in a old man's world, is up for the ballot with the way this election has gone, well, she'd have a lot of excitement tomorrow.


Well, tomorrow I get to cast the vote she never got the chance to make. To put a deserving woman in the seat of the most powerful person on Earth. I know she'd be proud I was there to make that vote.. And I don't care that California is locked in. I will always be able to look at myself and know I voted against that human excrement.

Anyway. Tomorrow it's here. Let's send a message, guys. Let's let the world know what America is supposed to represent, even if we don't always attain that goal. Because once we no longer aspire to be what we've always aspired to be, we lose everything all those people worked their asses off through centuries in this country to achieve.

I'm with Her. And Tomorrow, let's all be with Her Together.
 
Tomorrow is the most important vote I'll ever have casted in my life. Been able to vote since 2001.

Yes, 2008 was significant, but that election was also a referendum on the previous 8 years. What it represented mattered but Obama's opponent was irrelevant.

This election, however, matters in ways I never thought. What Trump represents is as vile a thing I have ever seen in this country, politically.


This will be the first presidential my grandmother won't be around for. Four years ago she couldn't vote since she had been afflicted by Alzheimer's. In 2008 she proudly vote for Barack Obama. I remember her telling me she was hopeful America has turned a corner on the subject of race.

My grandmother has always been the most influential person in my life. Growing up my parents worked very late so every day was off to my grandparents place. Grandpa died in '95 after a brutal battle with cancer. Since then it was me and her a lot of the time.

My grandmother represents everything Trump does not love about this country. She was an immigrant in the 60s. She taught herself English within months. She entered the workforce as a new immigrant. She saved her money and built her own business in the early 70s. In the 80s my grandparents built a new business together.

When my grandfather got sick, she took care of him, managed to continue to help raise me, help my parents as always, take care of their big 2 story house (which she bought as just land in the 70s) all on her own, send her sisters money when they needed it.

She taught me so much. And most of all, to never discriminate, to never put people down for what they cannot control. Her house was always open to people. It didn't matter who they were. Nurses who came over left with a stuffed animal in their hands if they had kids or fruits from her garden if not (or sometimes both!).

To her, America was an amazing place. She left such hardship in Europe to eventually find herself here, build her family, set her seeds by being an independent woman and always being thankful for what this country allowed her to accomplish.

She's the type of person that would wait 5 hours in line tomorrow to vote against that hateful sack of shit. She's always been a reliable Democrat but the type of hate he represents would have drove her nuts.

And then to throw in the fact that Hillary Clinton, a woman who has gone through hell trying to prove herself in a old man's world, is up for the ballot with the way this election has gone, well, she'd have a lot of excitement tomorrow.


Well, tomorrow I get to cast the vote she never got the chance to make. To put a deserving woman in the seat of the most powerful person on Earth. I know she'd be proud I was there to make that vote.. And I don't care that California is locked in. I will always be able to look at myself and know I voted against that human excrement.

Anyway. Tomorrow it's here. Let's send a message, guys. Let's let the world know what America is supposed to represent, even if we don't always attain that goal. Because once we no longer aspire to be what we've always aspired to be, we lose everything all those people worked their asses off through centuries in this country to achieve.

I'm with Her. And Tomorrow, let's all be with Her Together.

Proud to call you brother, brother.
 
Tomorrow is the most important vote I'll ever have casted in my life. Been able to vote since 2001.

Yes, 2008 was significant, but that election was also a referendum on the previous 8 years. What it represented mattered but Obama's opponent was irrelevant.

This election, however, matters in ways I never thought. What Trump represents is as vile a thing I have ever seen in this country, politically.


This will be the first presidential my grandmother won't be around for. Four years ago she couldn't vote since she had been afflicted by Alzheimer's. In 2008 she proudly vote for Barack Obama. I remember her telling me she was hopeful America has turned a corner on the subject of race.

My grandmother has always been the most influential person in my life. Growing up my parents worked very late so every day was off to my grandparents place. Grandpa died in '95 after a brutal battle with cancer. Since then it was me and her a lot of the time.

My grandmother represents everything Trump does not love about this country. She was an immigrant in the 60s. She taught herself English within months. She entered the workforce as a new immigrant. She saved her money and built her own business in the early 70s. In the 80s my grandparents built a new business together.

When my grandfather got sick, she took care of him, managed to continue to help raise me, help my parents as always, take care of their big 2 story house (which she bought as just land in the 70s) all on her own, send her sisters money when they needed it.

She taught me so much. And most of all, to never discriminate, to never put people down for what they cannot control. Her house was always open to people. It didn't matter who they were. Nurses who came over left with a stuffed animal in their hands if they had kids or fruits from her garden if not (or sometimes both!).

To her, America was an amazing place. She left such hardship in Europe to eventually find herself here, build her family, set her seeds by being an independent woman and always being thankful for what this country allowed her to accomplish.

She's the type of person that would wait 5 hours in line tomorrow to vote against that hateful sack of shit. She's always been a reliable Democrat but the type of hate he represents would have drove her nuts.

And then to throw in the fact that Hillary Clinton, a woman who has gone through hell trying to prove herself in a old man's world, is up for the ballot with the way this election has gone, well, she'd have a lot of excitement tomorrow.


Well, tomorrow I get to cast the vote she never got the chance to make. To put a deserving woman in the seat of the most powerful person on Earth. I know she'd be proud I was there to make that vote.. And I don't care that California is locked in. I will always be able to look at myself and know I voted against that human excrement.

Anyway. Tomorrow it's here. Let's send a message, guys. Let's let the world know what America is supposed to represent, even if we don't always attain that goal. Because once we no longer aspire to be what we've always aspired to be, we lose everything all those people worked their asses off through centuries in this country to achieve.

I'm with Her. And Tomorrow, let's all be with Her Together.
You got me all teary eyed, dude. Thanks for sharing. Your grandmother would be proud of you I think. :)
 

Necrovex

Member
Not sure if I'll wake up at 4am to follow the election. I want to but I also want to wake up to the final report and not be exhausted for work. How will I kill time without my daily political podcasts now?

I'd be happy enough if Sam Wang prediction is right.
 
Tomorrow is the most important vote I'll ever have casted in my life. Been able to vote since 2001.

Yes, 2008 was significant, but that election was also a referendum on the previous 8 years. What it represented mattered but Obama's opponent was irrelevant.

This election, however, matters in ways I never thought. What Trump represents is as vile a thing I have ever seen in this country, politically.


This will be the first presidential my grandmother won't be around for. Four years ago she couldn't vote since she had been afflicted by Alzheimer's. In 2008 she proudly vote for Barack Obama. I remember her telling me she was hopeful America has turned a corner on the subject of race.

My grandmother has always been the most influential person in my life. Growing up my parents worked very late so every day was off to my grandparents place. Grandpa died in '95 after a brutal battle with cancer. Since then it was me and her a lot of the time.

My grandmother represents everything Trump does not love about this country. She was an immigrant in the 60s. She taught herself English within months. She entered the workforce as a new immigrant. She saved her money and built her own business in the early 70s. In the 80s my grandparents built a new business together.

When my grandfather got sick, she took care of him, managed to continue to help raise me, help my parents as always, take care of their big 2 story house (which she bought as just land in the 70s) all on her own, send her sisters money when they needed it.

She taught me so much. And most of all, to never discriminate, to never put people down for what they cannot control. Her house was always open to people. It didn't matter who they were. Nurses who came over left with a stuffed animal in their hands if they had kids or fruits from her garden if not (or sometimes both!).

To her, America was an amazing place. She left such hardship in Europe to eventually find herself here, build her family, set her seeds by being an independent woman and always being thankful for what this country allowed her to accomplish.

She's the type of person that would wait 5 hours in line tomorrow to vote against that hateful sack of shit. She's always been a reliable Democrat but the type of hate he represents would have drove her nuts.

And then to throw in the fact that Hillary Clinton, a woman who has gone through hell trying to prove herself in a old man's world, is up for the ballot with the way this election has gone, well, she'd have a lot of excitement tomorrow.


Well, tomorrow I get to cast the vote she never got the chance to make. To put a deserving woman in the seat of the most powerful person on Earth. I know she'd be proud I was there to make that vote.. And I don't care that California is locked in. I will always be able to look at myself and know I voted against that human excrement.

Anyway. Tomorrow it's here. Let's send a message, guys. Let's let the world know what America is supposed to represent, even if we don't always attain that goal. Because once we no longer aspire to be what we've always aspired to be, we lose everything all those people worked their asses off through centuries in this country to achieve.

I'm with Her. And Tomorrow, let's all be with Her Together.

We're in it together, my friend. Let's do this.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery

Oh dear :O

Tomorrow is the most important vote I'll ever have casted in my life. Been able to vote since 2001.

Yes, 2008 was significant, but that election was also a referendum on the previous 8 years. What it represented mattered but Obama's opponent was irrelevant.

This election, however, matters in ways I never thought. What Trump represents is as vile a thing I have ever seen in this country, politically.


This will be the first presidential my grandmother won't be around for. Four years ago she couldn't vote since she had been afflicted by Alzheimer's. In 2008 she proudly vote for Barack Obama. I remember her telling me she was hopeful America has turned a corner on the subject of race.

My grandmother has always been the most influential person in my life. Growing up my parents worked very late so every day was off to my grandparents place. Grandpa died in '95 after a brutal battle with cancer. Since then it was me and her a lot of the time.

My grandmother represents everything Trump does not love about this country. She was an immigrant in the 60s. She taught herself English within months. She entered the workforce as a new immigrant. She saved her money and built her own business in the early 70s. In the 80s my grandparents built a new business together.

When my grandfather got sick, she took care of him, managed to continue to help raise me, help my parents as always, take care of their big 2 story house (which she bought as just land in the 70s) all on her own, send her sisters money when they needed it.

She taught me so much. And most of all, to never discriminate, to never put people down for what they cannot control. Her house was always open to people. It didn't matter who they were. Nurses who came over left with a stuffed animal in their hands if they had kids or fruits from her garden if not (or sometimes both!).

To her, America was an amazing place. She left such hardship in Europe to eventually find herself here, build her family, set her seeds by being an independent woman and always being thankful for what this country allowed her to accomplish.

She's the type of person that would wait 5 hours in line tomorrow to vote against that hateful sack of shit. She's always been a reliable Democrat but the type of hate he represents would have drove her nuts.

And then to throw in the fact that Hillary Clinton, a woman who has gone through hell trying to prove herself in a old man's world, is up for the ballot with the way this election has gone, well, she'd have a lot of excitement tomorrow.


Well, tomorrow I get to cast the vote she never got the chance to make. To put a deserving woman in the seat of the most powerful person on Earth. I know she'd be proud I was there to make that vote.. And I don't care that California is locked in. I will always be able to look at myself and know I voted against that human excrement.

Anyway. Tomorrow it's here. Let's send a message, guys. Let's let the world know what America is supposed to represent, even if we don't always attain that goal. Because once we no longer aspire to be what we've always aspired to be, we lose everything all those people worked their asses off through centuries in this country to achieve.

I'm with Her. And Tomorrow, let's all be with Her Together.

Sorry to hear about your grandma. Cast that ballot with pride tomorrow.

I'd join you guys, but I'm not registered. :/
 

Breads

Banned
I'm so bummed right now.

The only family member I couldn't convince to vote was my sister. She has schizoaffective disorder (bipolar type) and her son is both autistic and black and she relies on a plethora of social benefits that Trump's America could shut down as Trump supporters cheer on... and yet she is convinced that Hillary Clinton is a devil worshiping child sex ring/leader who is involved with the totally real Cern pagan ritual that happened around the time she was nominated to become the democratic representative. She is indeed eligible to vote but she believes keeping a warlock out of the white house is more important than the issues that involve her personally and she thinks herself selfless in her decision to not vote at all.

I'm not trying to belittle her or make fun of anyone in particular but it's upsetting to think how the Alex Joneses of the world and this kind of absurd rhetoric can indeed influence votes, even if it is a severe minority.

If you don't know what I'm talking about... well... links have already been posted of Alex Jones speaking in a scary demon possessed voice spouting nonsense. To my sister it's unthinkable that someone would just make it up... so it must be true.

Sigh.

Fuck you Alex Jones.
 

Fat4all

Banned
Sometimes I feel a bit guilty for not having any Trump family supporters.

My mom said I'd be uninvited to the Christmas get together if I voted for him.
 

Chumley

Banned
Where did the "beautiful and talented" meme come from? As in "the beautiful and talented Kellyanne Conway".

I think it was Jon Favreau mocking Joe Scarborough's fucking embarrassing fawning over her when she was announced as the third Trump campaign manager in September.
 

sc0la

Unconfirmed Member
still a bit miffed we never got that final oppo drop on Donald
The kremlin held the keys, and I am sure it was always more valuable as a blackmail threat to hedge against a volatile president trump than as a means to torpedo his candidacy.

this is assuming it's video of trump with hookers in Russia 😷

Fake edit: I guess it could have been salty language B roll from the apprentice. There is probably a few things we will never see.

Real edit:
Oh dear :O



Sorry to hear about your grandma. Cast that ballot with pride tomorrow.

I'd join you guys, but I'm not registered. :/
Bro. Bro. Seriously?!
Are you eligible to register?
you_were_the_chosen_one_episode_III.gif
 

Ihyll

Junior Member
Not sure how accurate votecastr will be

It shows it has only been downloaded 100 times from the Google play store
 

sazzy

Member
The kremlin held the keys, and I am sure it was always more valuable as a blackmail threat to hedge against a volatile president trump than as a means to torpedo his candidacy.

this is assuming it's video of trump with hookers in Russia 😷

Fake edit: I guess it could have been salty language B roll from the apprentice. There is probably a few things we will never see.

Mysteries I want solved:

1- who leaked Donald's tax returns to NYT?
2- what the AG and Bill really discussed?
3- details on the Trumpland faction in the FBI
4- why did none of Donald's primary opponents do oppo research on him?
5- what happened between Donald Mika and Joe?
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
I met my first real-life "lesser-of-two-evils" person today. This is in the UK.

Of course I immediately went off on a (relatively gentle) tirade, briefly extolling Hillary's experience, briefly dismissing the alt-right accusations on Hillary, followed by an extended and detailed takedown of Trump and the dangers he presents to the US and to the world and the damage he has already done to US politics.

It felt good doing that.

Mind you, probably not the best way to treat my bank manager during a meeting when I am looking for favours. (Once we had got back on track she did the deal I wanted though).
 
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Deleted member 231381

Unconfirmed Member
This is sort of terrible and has a real chance to depress turnout near the end of the day. If people are waiting in line and see that their state has already been called, there is a good chance they'll just leave and not vote at all.

I'm actually surprised the US allows it. Releasing election-day polling on election day is banned in most countries.
 

MIMIC

Banned
This is sort of terrible and has a real chance to depress turnout near the end of the day. If people are waiting in line and see that their state has already been called, there is a good chance they'll just leave and not vote at all.

Good point. Sort of why states moved away from having different election days to just having one day where EVERYBODY voted.
 

Pixieking

Banned
This is sort of terrible and has a real chance to depress turnout near the end of the day. If people are waiting in line and see that their state has already been called, there is a good chance they'll just leave and not vote at all.

If it were higher-profile, I could see your point. But seriously, how many non-geeks are going to be looking at this? I'm willing to bet most "normal" people won't have heard of it, and I doubt anyone will be checking it before actually going to vote.

*crosses fingers that I'm right* :)
 

Magni

Member
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Enter the Shrine of the Silver Server, when you will have to assemble three emails. Enter the Throne Room, but watch out for the Paid Protestors.

The choices are yours, and yours alone... good luck

I love how it's not the "Lock her up" side that ended up with the "banana republic" sign.
 
If it were higher-profile, I could see your point. But seriously, how many non-geeks are going to be looking at this? I'm willing to bet most "normal" people won't have heard of it, and I doubt anyone will be checking it before actually going to vote.

*crosses fingers that I'm right* :)

It's exactly the type of thing that could go viral and get shared all over Facebook and Twitter. The fact that it provides the exact type of information that people want but cannot be found on TV or anywhere else is a huge draw. Also the constant updates will have people hooked and posting shit every time a state swings.
Whether it will actually be accurate or a mess...nobody knows.
 
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