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PoliGAF 2016 |OT11| Well this is exciting
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Colin Moriarty is going to loooooove that
This is good. 3rd party votes are about to be shed in a major way
Finale Fireworker
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How does Colin feel about Bill Weld? Every Johnson voter I've spoken to hates Bill Weld, usually for his "incredibly uninformed view on guns."
sazzy
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CNN, ABC throwing hissy fits who's employee gets to ask what question in town hall:
https://pagesix.com/2016/10/04/cnn-abc-already-feuding-over-next-presidential-debate/
https://pagesix.com/2016/10/04/cnn-abc-already-feuding-over-next-presidential-debate/
metalslimer
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Kaine got what he wanted out of that debate.
Lol this debate is going to be a mess if cooper and radditz aren't on the same page.
Lol this debate is going to be a mess if cooper and radditz aren't on the same page.
I think both sides did. Pence won but at what price?
For good or bad, this is exactly true. Coverage of the hurricane will wipe the remnants of it from everyone's collective memories and then we'll be moving on to the next presidential debate.
Not really sure on how he feels about Weld considering how blindly he thrust his support on the Johnson/Weld ticket simply because they aren't Clinton or Trump. For a guy as invested in history, politics and championing what's best for his country as he is, he's looked really, really silly doing this.
From what I've noticed, a lot of Johnson supporters ultimately don't like Weld much because he isn't a true "everybody do whatever the fuck you want" libertarian.
metalslimer
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So no one will care that Kaine lost the debate but the Clinton campaign gets a lot of new material to use.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Ugh. Keep him off the trail. The guy isn't that great.
That's my takeaway
Sure there is, hold his feet to the fire on that shit. He wasn't going to adopt the softer stance. Show them as the worst of both worlds, he won't defend Trump when he is extreme, and when Trump is "moderate" he is still extreme.
Well, neither is Johnson. He actually supports drivers licenses!
Dubbedinenglish
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Just have him stick to climate change.
Felix Lighter
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There is no other way to interpret this other than supporting Hillary Clinton directly, even if that will never be stated. You cannot make preventing a Trump President your primary goal any other way.
I guess a whale was in trouble.
I still wonder why they agreed to a two moderator debate for the town hall? For the other two, sure. But why for the town hall is beyond me.
Veritigo_X
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2012 had two high profile participants so it isn't too surprising. Kaine and Pence are fairly unknown to everyone.
NYCmetsfan
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The dudes twitter handle is "notaxation"
lol at the bolded.
Which he will and is a great issue for millennials the
'lol gore' is silly
Man Clintons strategy looks even better the day after. Most people didn't watch the debates, and will get their information about the debate this week through the media. Pence wins immediately, but those clips of Pence lying over and over will make Kaine win over the long run. Kaine is a bro though. Took a hit to his looks for Clinton.
User 463088
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u wut m8
User 463088
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Pence helped himself in that he stood by conservatism, while pretending that Donald Trump didn't exist. So, that's what the GOP message will be going forward. Donald Trump never existed. He never said anything he said. They ran an empty top of the ticket in 2016.
Pence's strategy last night was to defend the GOP. Kaine's was to defend Hillary Clinton.
One was running for Vice President, the other was running to salvage their party.
balladofwindfishes
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Congratulations to Hillary Clinton on her reelection.
Veritigo_X
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You mean the establishment frontrunners. GOP primary voters are gonna do their thing again.
B-but Jeb!
balladofwindfishes
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It'll be some non-politician with a crazy, racist, populist message again unless they make substantial changes to the primary system. Trump's voters aren't going to go away in 4 years.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Those are the 'establishment' guys that will lose in the primary. 2020 will be another Trump-like buffoon who right wing primary voters will prop up and force the Republicans to deal with.
nature boy
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Bigly
Let the smear campaign begin.
Seriously. Every day from Nov 9th on the Democrats need to be unleashing an onslaught on anyone who looks like they might run, and the Republican party as a whole.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
New Keepin' it 1600 is up. Laughing already.
Finale Fireworker
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I think the Democrats' greatest asset that they have only just begun to leverage is their ensemble. They have so many big names with their own claims to fame and they are generally all well liked. Moving forward, especially down ticket, I think communicating that a vote for a democrat is a vote for the whole team might be a good strategy.
People are susceptible to personality, including liberals. Make people want to vote for the dream team.
People are susceptible to personality, including liberals. Make people want to vote for the dream team.
balladofwindfishes
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Why? All that would do would weed out the weak ones and leave the strongest to run. Why attack them before they even run?
You know what I find hilarious this narrative that somehow Trump is going to learn from Pences performance yesterday. Town halls are nothing like regular debates he's going to learn jack shit from yesterday. Plus you have to assume Trump is capable of learning anything for that narrative to work because so far he hasn't/
Bigly
where is that from?
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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They will. No more WTA, some kind of veiled super delegate thing, whatever.
Add Paul Ryan to that list.
Johnson knows the capital of Cambodia?
Wait, people think Trump is gonna act like Pence? Have they ever actually seen Donald Trump?
The Technomancer
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Okay I missed everything. Pence lied a lot, got that. Why did Kaine "lose"
I really think Marco would beat Hillary.
He's more charismatic, and is level-headed and professional in ways that Trump isn't. He might seem a mite too polished, but lots of voters feel the same way about Hillary.
To most viewers, Kaine came off as immature and excitable. His constant turns to Trump might help in the long run, but seemed a little bit desperate in the framework of the debate.
Pence worked the camera better.
Roland_Gunner
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Ryan's going to have to make enough compromises as Speaker that the base will hate him in 4 years
Horrible start where Kaine kept interrupting with no actual argument, then general aggressiveness for the rest of the debate. He also primarily focused on going after Donald Trump, not Mike Pence.
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