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[Trancos]

What can you argue against that?

A non binding Primary that nobody campaigned on has a bigger turnout than the caucus.

The fact the Nebraska actually releases caucus turn out number is what is making the argument for caucuses so difficult in this case.

The fact that Hillary actually won it's just the cherry on top.

 

[Holmes]

When turnout is higher, Clinton does better, and the Nebraska primary is the perfect example.

 

[darkside31337]

Nebraska is unique (?) though that we have an exact case of primary vs caucus. Bernie won the caucus, while Hillary appears to be winning the primary.

Least surprising thing ever. Caucuses shouldn't be a thing in 2016. People should have the right to vote for who they want without the bullshit of a caucus.

 

[danm999]

What can you argue against that?

A non binding Primary that nobody campaigned on has a bigger turnout than the caucus.

The fact the Nebraska actually releases caucus turn out number is what is making the argument for caucuses so difficult in this case.

The fact that Hillary actually won it's just the cherry on top.

Holy shit that's kind of embarassing. Also don't understand why they didn't hold a primary in the first place? My understanding was they only do caucuses when there isn't money for a primary?

 

[metalslimer]

People ripping the AP for literally tweeting a fact lol

 

[Wilsongt]

Just click that tweet to see the salt

Jesus. I need some water after that. I am all dried out.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Associated? More like Establishment Press.

Huelenical EP.

 

[User 406]

but dawg what if she's like, seen stuff. because of her many years at the highest echelons of government. which fuels her interest.

I think Bill just trolled Hillary the entire time he was in office with it. "Oh, hon, you wouldn't believe the shit we've got at Area 51! But I can't tell you about it, sorry!"

And now you know why she wants to be President so badly!

Also idk how you make a guaranteed-accurate exit poll. Just throwing some money at it isn't sufficient.

They're trying to say that just throwing money at a problem isn't enough to solve it. But with your help, we can prove them wrong. Click to donate $27 and show them just how much money we can throw.

Counterpoint: CartoonSoldiering

Doesn't roll off the tongue, and doesn't have the same kind of long established history.

I think it should be Huelenic. From the Greek.

Now that rolls off the tongue. Approved.

Interesting politico article about the whole not appointing a Supreme Court nominee gambit after a Trump nomination is certain. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-supreme-court-merrick-garland-223026

It would be great if Trump decided to push back on this and say, "fuck you, I'll give you my picks when I'm in office, just like I will my policies, I'm the captain now" just to keep trying to establish dominance over the GOP. :X

Nebraska was always the South

Actually, they were an enlightened northern liberal state all the way up through the caucus, but today they seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy.

 

[Trancos]

When I was at uni we were always told that is so important in strategic comms to actually define the conversation. You should talk about what you want people to talk about.

For all the enthusiasm that Bernie supporters have they are easily baited. One tweet from the Clinton's campaign and now the whole conversation is about caucus vs primaries.

Furthermore, to even debate this you need to refer to the Nebraska primary and talk about a Clinton's win, even if you are trying to refute the argument.

 

[Kibbles]

Will they stop the Republican primaries once Big Don reaches the magic #? Seems like a waste of time at this point

 

[Holmes]

When Hillary wins the South Dakota primary.

 

[Trancos]

Will they stop the Republican primaries once Big Don reaches the magic #? Seems like a waste of time at this point

It's not only presidential primaries, there is a lot down ballot primaries at the same time. So no.

 

[hammysaurusrex]

I would bet anything the people at AP that sent that tweet are now playing a drinking game.

 

[Holmes]

Mook's statement on delegate math today:

Interesting how he doesn't have Kentucky in the list of Sanders' favorable states, and South Dakota is.

 

[blackw0lf]

Mook's statement on delegate math today:

Interesting how he doesn't have Kentucky in the list of Sanders' favorable states, and South Dakota is.

Clinton is a slight favorite in Kentucky, based on demographics

 

[Bowdz]

Mook's statement on delegate math today:

Interesting how he doesn't have Kentucky in the list of Sanders' favorable states, and South Dakota is.

Mook da God.

He really is the hero of this election cycle.

 

[Trancos]

Clinton is a slight favorite in Kentucky, based on demographics

Benchmark politics are running their model for Kentucky and Oregon tonight just to celebrate their big breakthrough. It will be very really number but it will give us an idea at least.

 

[VendettaRed07]

I'm now willing to vote for what ever candidate commits to enacting a complete and total shut down of all Corey Feldmans from living in and entering the United States

 

[balladofwindfishes]

This Nebraska primary seems to have really gotten under some Sanders' supporters' skins

 

[Holmes]

Kentucky might be favored for Clinton but if coal county is as harsh against Clinton there as it was in West Virginia, she would have no room for error in Louisville + suburbs, Lexington, and western KY.

 

[gcubed]

This Nebraska primary seems to have really gotten under some Sanders' supporters' skins

the bubble has popped

 

[Trancos]

Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol now
Clinton 50.5% - Sanders 49.5% in Oregon, early modeling. Closed primary, extremely old median age, mail in voting.

I still thinks Hillary loses.

 

[Jack Remington]

So Sanders falls even further behind the pace he'll need to win.

 

[BanGy.nz]

Mook is going to have a rough 6 months, his phone and email must already be filled with democratic operatives diablosing over Trump.

Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol now
Clinton 50.5% - Sanders 49.5% in Oregon, early modeling. Closed primary, extremely old median age, mail in voting.

I still thinks Hillary loses.

Based on nothing but my gut, I think it's at least a 10 point loss for Clinton here.

 

[Bowdz]

This Nebraska primary seems to have really gotten under some Sanders' supporters' skins

It's rich considering how they were crowing about their state convention "win" in NV where they racked up more delegates than the actual caucus allotted.

 

[metalslimer]

I would say Clinton winning Oregon should wrap this up but it's obvious Bernie won't drop until California even when he will need to make her non viable. Oregon was supposed to be one of the places he actually might have a reasonable victory (even though not enough to mean anything).

 

[jack_package_200]

Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol now
Clinton 50.5% - Sanders 49.5% in Oregon, early modeling. Closed primary, extremely old median age, mail in voting.

I still thinks Hillary loses.

Please let this be real.

Old people you dabes <3

 

[Hilbert]

Benchmark Politics &#8207;@benchmarkpol now
Clinton 50.5% - Sanders 49.5% in Oregon, early modeling. Closed primary, extremely old median age, mail in voting.

I still thinks Hillary loses.

I know two people supporting Clinton in Oregon!

Hispanic though...so.....

 

[aspiegamer]

Aah, the Twitter complaints weren't salty about Clinton winning today, they're just insistent that this event being reported upon never actually happened. AP is inventing this! Should retract it! Oh dear.

Nebraska is weird, but not being able to spot that the words "primary" and "caucus" are different is pretty embarrassing. Also google.

Based on nothing but my gut, I think it's at least a 10 point loss for Clinton here.

That's still waaaaaay behind the percentage Sanders needs to keep pace.

 

[Trancos]

Benchmark Pol:
Kentucky early modeling: Clinton 52% - Sanders 48%. Also closed primary. Decent minority pop.

Oregon Clinton 50.5% - Sanders 49.5% in Oregon, early modeling. Closed primary, extremely old median age, mail in voting.

 

[User 463088]

Benchmark Politics &#8207;@benchmarkpol 34s34 seconds ago
Kentucky early modeling: Clinton 52% - Sanders 48%. Also closed primary. Decent minority pop.

Werk. Bernie's now further behind for winning.

 

[jack_package_200]

I know two people supporting Clinton in Oregon!

Hispanic though...so.....

Theres me. I am white as a snowman

 

[daedalius]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/730213541194702848



LOL

If single polls are getting threads, this really needs one.

 

[Bowdz]

Considering Hilldawg was predicted to win Indiana according to Benchmark, I strongly doubt that she'll take Oregon. If ever there was a state in the west made for Bernie, it'd be Oregon.

 

[metalslimer]

Considering Hilldawg was predicted to win Indiana according to Benchmark, I strongly doubt that she'll take Oregon. If ever there was a state in the west made for Bernie, it'd be Oregon.

Washington?

 

[BanGy.nz]

I would say Clinton winning Oregon should wrap this up but it's obvious Bernie won't drop until California even when he will need to make her non viable. Oregon was supposed to be one of the places he actually might have a reasonable victory (even though not enough to mean anything).

D.C votes a week after California so don't expect him to drop after directly California.

 

[Bowdz]

Washington?

That too.

 

[TopDreg]

I'll make a bold prediction of 43% for Hillary in Oregon. Placing my bets on eastern Oregon to actually come through.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

Mook's statement on delegate math today:

Interesting how he doesn't have Kentucky in the list of Sanders' favorable states, and South Dakota is.

There we go. Looking forward to the Sanders team response.

 

[Holmes]

Benchmark Pol:
Oregon Clinton 50.5% - Sanders 49.5% in Oregon, early modeling. Closed primary, extremely old median age, mail in voting.

 

[gcubed]

There we go. Looking forward to the Sanders team response.

Nuh uh Establishment!

 

[Holmes]

There we go. Looking forward to the Sanders team response.

Something about superdelegates.

 

[kingkitty]

I thought the Bernie strategy was to steal earn the nomination through superdelegates at the convention. Not meeting benchmarks is irrelevant. Once Hill, Huma, Mook, and Bill go to Guantanamo, supers will have no choice but to switch.

 

[Trancos]

Benchmark pol getting a lot of heat for predicting 2 losses for Bernie.

Again correcting everybody online that disagrees with you is not the way. If you don't like it change the conversation people.

I still thinks Oregon is +10-15% for Bernie. And I think she wins KY by +2-4%. I think Bernie not reaching 60% in OR can really finish to demoralise his campaign supporters even if they go all the way to DC.

After that they would need ~68%, and maybe after PR, VI he'll need 70%+ which sounds ridiculous even for the most hardcore fan.

 

[HylianTom]

Accidentally posted this in OT:

Probably my favorite news of the day, even more than the Uncle Joe news.

Holy hell.

 

[damisa]

This Nebraska primary seems to have really gotten under some Sanders' supporters' skins

I think it's starting to sink in to them that the majority of people don't actually want Bernie to win

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

no way Clinton is going to take Oregon, I'm thinking at least a seven point loss.

 

[danm999]

Accidentally posted this in OT:

Probably my favorite news of the day, even more than the Uncle Joe news.

Holy hell.

Too cheap, too stupid or both?

 

[perfectchaos007]

Accidentally posted this in OT:

Probably my favorite news of the day, even more than the Uncle Joe news.

Holy hell.

I forsee a lot more airhorn Vic Berger videos with Trump slamming Hillary over and over

 

[Trancos]

David SidersVerified account
&#8207;@davidsiders
. @BernieSanders says in interview he's not sure if he'll put ads on TV in calif, a major media state

Is he running out of money? or just a tactic to get more donations?