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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam

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Someone here made the joke before the GUAM election that they wanted to send Bill to tour the smaller islands to prevent another gaffe.

Well people, you got what you wanted. Bill is going to Virgin Islands to campaign.

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‏@jeneps
Bill Clinton to campaign in St. Croix on Monday ahead of the Virgin Islands primary on June 4

#thewillofthepeople
#freeBillClinton
that was me, i suggested that he take a trip to the Virgin Island then than take long weekend stay in Puerto Rico.

if he can kill it in PR, rack up as many to 70 to 80% of PRs delegates
 

Trancos

Member
If he doesn't, it would definitely show that Caucuses do not reflect the will of the people.

Yeah but WA doesn't release turn out numbers for the caucus (only precinct delegate numbers) so they can always argue that it's not clear which one has the biggest turn out.

That's why NE is getting people so salty on social media, you can actually compare votes.
 

Holmes

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It's annoying seeing the "nobody knew about this and it didn't make a difference" excuse for Sanders' loss in Nebraska today because turnout was more than double that of the caucus turnout so people did know, and it makes Sanders supporters out to be the apathetic and lethargic non-voters that everyone says they are.
 

NeoXChaos

Member
It's annoying seeing the "nobody knew about this and it didn't make a difference" excuse for Sanders' loss in Nebraska today because turnout was more than double that of the caucus turnout so people did know, and it makes Sanders supporters out to be the apathetic and lethargic non-voters that everyone says they are.

next Wednesday you will be be able to update your graph for the May contest.
 
I was playing the swings betting on WV's margin of victory and I was up 500 right when the tide turned against Hillary. Got out with 150 lol. That shit is stressful, man.

Also that thread about what would happen if Trump became president depressed the hell out of me. I just don't understand why people don't give a shit about the make up of the supreme court. Arrgh.
 

itschris

Member
Just for fun, I decided to guess how the rest of the Democratic primary will go. First my main two predictions (using the term lightly here), the first leaning more towards Clinton and the second with Sanders doing a little better (click to enlarge):

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Clinton 2205, Sanders 1846 (Clinton +359)

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Clinton 2184, Sanders 1867 (Clinton +317)

Lastly, you can see how even if she lost every remaining contest she would still most likely get a pledged delegate majority:

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Clinton 2078, Sanders 1973 (Clinton +105)

You have to put California up to Sanders +40 before he wins.

I know this is preaching to the choir, but I thought it was interesting!
 

itschris

Member
Here's my prediction of how the remaining contests will play out. I'm feeling a bit bullish on South Dakota after tonight's results in Nebraska.

Interesting. My thought was that Sanders voters would be more motivated since the results will actually count for delegates. Also, I was maybe being too conservative with Puerto Rico and DC!
 

studyguy

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If they're spending money in CA they had to have done it months ago. 2012 had like 65% vote by mail in ballot during primaries and they're arriving like right now.

Anyone going forward is probably going to be newer voters.
 

Chichikov

Member
To be honest. That fade to white has been bothering me for a while too. Please fix it.
Listen man, I'm not a magician, gif don't have an alpha transparency channel so it's hard to do under the best conditions, I need source video to have any chance to make something that doesn't look like ass.

I mean look at what happens if I try to use it over the fade to white source gif -

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davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Was listening to the CA senate debates today a little bit and on the topic of global warming one of the guys touted he was the only scientist up on stage, a theoretical physicist or something.

He then proceeded to say he wasn't convinced that global warming was real. I was kind of dumbfounded. I thought he was setting himself up to say how bad it is or whatever.

Looking him up later of course he's a republican.

Also his solution to "environmental concerns" was reducing all immigration. He had that answer for three different topics. It was very strange.
 

mo60

Member
So why does the other category in the WV primary have more than 10% of the vote on both the Republican and Democrat sides(it's closer to 15% on the Democrats side)
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Was listening to the CA senate debates today a little bit and on the topic of global warming one of the guys touted he was the only scientist up on stage, a theoretical physicist or something.

He then proceeded to say he wasn't convinced that global warming was real. I was kind of dumbfounded. I thought he was setting himself up to say how bad it is or whatever.

Looking him up later of course he's a republican.

Also his solution to "environmental concerns" was reducing all immigration. He had that answer for three different topics. It was very strange.

CA GOP Senate races are a shit show.

So why does the other category in the WV primary have more than 10% of the vote on both the Republican and Democrat sides(it's closer to 15% on the Democrats side)
?

Some of the counties its up to like 30% for the dems lol.
 

FyreWulff

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He lost all 3 Democrat stronghold counties (Douglas, Sarpy, Lancaster) in the Primary.

Lancaster has our capitol of Lincoln and the University of Nebraska. It's a mega college town. Bernie couldn't even win the college town in a primary. lol.


edit: he didn't win Kearney (Buffalo County) either, the other college town / satellite campus of University of Nebraska in the primary, after winning it in the caucus.
 
He lost all 3 Democrat stronghold counties (Douglas, Sarpy, Lancaster) in the Primary.

Lancaster has our capitol of Lincoln and the University of Nebraska. It's a mega college town. Bernie couldn't even win the college town in a primary. lol.

edit: he didn't win Kearney (Buffalo County) either, the other college town / satellite campus of University of Nebraska in the primary, after winning it in the caucus.
It's extremely amusing to me (but not in any way surprising) that he has enough super-duper-ultra-mega vocal supporters to go out and yell and scream and kick ass in many caucuses all over the country, but the alleged masses of more casual supporters in those demographics still can't be bothered to go out and actually vote much of the time. All caucuses henceforth shall be known as "The Reddit Primary." An assigned 1% of registered voters get a thousand votes each to screw with the actual representative opinion of the whole.

Sanders has always looked a ton like Ron Paul 2012 online but with his core message amplified because there were literally no other candidates. Were it a solo Paul vs Romney in 2012 he wouldn't have been stuffed down in the single digits. He'd have performed at Sanders numbers... ~40% nationally, ~45-55% state to state depending on who hated the establishment more (and there were no shortage of people who hated Romney). This sort of thing is more evidence to support that theory. I don't mean any of it as an insult, either! That was a very impressive operation!

Paul had a different enough of a pull, where, were he not buried under several rotating contending candidates, with 10x the media time his style would have caught on a lot more. WTA would have shut down that primary in a hurry of course, but if Republicans went to all proportional Paul is the kind of guy you know would push things even farther than Sanders is despite any actual hope of winning. It would have looked and acted exactly the same as this pointlessly drawn out Clinton vs Sanders thing this year. Exactly like it.
 

FyreWulff

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I've always considered the more online-vocalcore Sanders supports to be direct tranplants from Paul. Big ideas, little action, and Paul would have gotten farther if the Republican field didn't look like the Super Smash Brothers character select screen every 4 years.

Sanders has the benefit that O'Malley's run was basically this.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Wow, that WV result is a little surprising. Hillary won by like 30% in 2008. The air is definitely coming out of the balloon. Good. People should spend their time being productive. For example, learning about securitization or developing CD ladders for their short term emergency fund cash.
 
Wow, that WV result is a little surprising. Hillary won by like 30% in 2008. The air is definitely coming out of the balloon. Good. People should spend their time being productive. For example, learning about securitization or developing CD ladders for their short term emergency fund cash.

The whaaa?
 
Haven't seen this posted:

Trump: Obama data operation 'overrated'


Donald Trump on Tuesday said he would only spend "limited" money on data operations that track potential voters, arguing President Obama's 2012 operation was "overrated."

"My best investment is my rallies," the White House hopeful said in an interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday.

"The people go home, they tell their friends they loved it. It's been good."
Obama's data mining was seen as a key to his success in bringing out voters in 2012, but Trump downplayed it during the interview.

"Obama got the votes much more so than his data processing machine," he said.

"And I think the same is true with me."

Talk about Cult of Personality.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Wait--Trump decided to not release his tax returns at all? LOL
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Wait--Trump decided to not release his tax returns at all? LOL

Yep:

Despite pressure, the billionaire businessman also does not expect to release his tax returns before the November election.

"There's nothing to learn from them," Trump told The Associated Press in an interview Tuesday. He's cited an ongoing audit of his finances as the main reason for withholding the information, and also has said he doesn't believe voters are interested.

in an interview with Fox News no less.



Then again, Sanders had yet to release all of his either...
 
So the Green party has removed its official explicit promotion of homeopathy from their platform (however, there is still a dog whistle that all "complementary, integrative and licensed alternative health care approaches" be supported - which includes homeopathy implicitly). This was most likely done because Jill Stein is going to do a Reddit AMA soon and the last one was a disaster with people bringing up their anti-science views, which a lot of recent Bernie defectors may not be aware of as they join in fits of frustration.

It's impossible to not chuckle at the desperation. Politicians change their views over time and it's heavily criticized, but opportunistically editing your entire platform on an as-needed basis is perfectly fine. lol
 
I may be incorrect, but I don't think anti-vaccine has ever been an official platform of the part as a whole. However, Jill Stein is unabashedly in the "I'm not saying all vaccines are bad, I'm just saying there's no level of evidence that will ever satisfy my burden of proof that they are safe either", and has been, to varying degrees, on the Andrew Wakefield "vaccines cause autism" bus for a while.

She's very open with this view when among only Greens and when interfacing with the fringe parts of the Autism community, but when trying to promote her campaign or party to the general public she does everything she can to ignore the question and be silent. I don't know if it's an official platform, but the party's stance as a whole has generally been "vaccines are a personal choice only"

For those unaware, Stein is also a physician, which makes this all the more embarrassing and pathetic.

The weird thing is, Bernie has been very obviously and intentionally ignoring her pleas to jump on his bandwagon. It's disappointing his followers aren't taking the hint - the Green party is completely toxic to any progressive agenda because of all the extra baggage.

edit: It's also worth noting that Trump is also anti-vaccine, though his enthusiasm for the position depends on the time of day you ask him (just like all of his positions).
 
Alt medicine and anti-vax are thick as thieves---she/the Green establishment such as it is are just wanting to keep that vector of money and connected persons in the loop.

I liken her doings to the modern, suspect PBS guru pledge drives that prey on people's fears and feed into an artificially inflated sense of enlightenment via fancy titles and A Doctor Wouldn't Lie~.

They know damn well the lot of it is bunk, but still they entertain as craven as ever instead of following actual convictions.
 
The Green Party's stance on alternative medicine and their stance on natural conservation contradict each other.

You can't push alternative medicine and also push for the conservation of endangered species, because alternative medicine is the leading reason for poaching.
 
#TeamFadeToTransparent

Also chichikov, there's been a disappointing lack of the socialism cat sex gif this primary. It should have been Bernie's go to gif!
 
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