I know that she can do more good in the senate than as VP but Clinton wants to win and I don't see people running to the polls to vote for Julian Castro
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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I know that she can do more good in the senate than as VP but Clinton wants to win and I don't see people running to the polls to vote for Julian Castro
Jack Remington
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Passing his 3L exams.
It's not a pick she needs to win though. The people it would attract are going to vote for her already.
BlastProcessing
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Tweets from @jameshohmann
@jameshohmann WaPo reporters were 44 mins into a phone interview w Trump abt his finances when asked about John Miller. The phone went silent, then dead.
@jameshohmann Trump's line went silent, then dead, this afternoon when WaPo asked: Did you ever employ someone named John Miller as a spokesperson?"
@jameshohmann When WaPo reporters called back and reached Trumps secretary, she said, I heard you got disconnected. He cant take the call now..."
Seems like Trump Tower does not have the classiest, most luxurious phone systems.
@jameshohmann WaPo reporters were 44 mins into a phone interview w Trump abt his finances when asked about John Miller. The phone went silent, then dead.
@jameshohmann Trump's line went silent, then dead, this afternoon when WaPo asked: Did you ever employ someone named John Miller as a spokesperson?"
@jameshohmann When WaPo reporters called back and reached Trumps secretary, she said, I heard you got disconnected. He cant take the call now..."
Seems like Trump Tower does not have the classiest, most luxurious phone systems.
cartoon_soldier
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Dems have a poor as shit bench and so Kaine/Warren automatically become favorites.
No one votes for the VP.
I just googled "John Miller Trump"
Fucking LOL. Every time I think this guy can't be any more bizarre, he proves me wrong.
Pretty much how I feel about it. No offense to Biden, but they could've paired Obama with anyone and I still would've voted for Obama.
Tranqueris
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But it's totally still possible for him to be President though, so he has to keep hitting her hard like if he's running a "I'm less than 100 delegates behind" campaign.
Also I feel like we probably wouldn't have to deal with much of this nonsense if California wasn't on the last damn day that matters.
"But 475 delegates tho!"
Starting to think there might be another shoe to drop here if Trump is this defensive.
teruterubozu
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Well yes and no. Sarah Palin certainly swayed votes one way or another.
Clinton knows this is coming. When it happens, I hope that she agrees to release the stupid transcripts and uses them to pressure Trump to reveal both his tax returns and any speeches he's given (he's much more likely to have said something stupid in a speech than Clinton is, imo).
Not only would it put a lot of pressure on Trump, but it would give her a smart, easily understood excuse for why she didn't release them earlier (she wanted to use them to hit Trump instead of Bernie).
People vote against a VP though.
true i guess
Well, I think that Clinton doesn't just want to win she wants it to be a landslide
TheLostBigBoss
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10 days since Trump has been declared the presumptive nominee for the GOP
It's only been 10 days.
Someone search the Panama Papers for his publicist aliases.
They do, but any name being thrown out there on the dem side isn't a vapid moron
time really is a flat circle
Aaron Strife
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He's like Tommy Wiseau (who is also fabulously wealthy, although no one has a clue how) if Wiseau's first language was English.
My mental exercise of the time was if the VP noms had switched, would I support Obama-Palin over McCain-Biden.
Honestly, probably not.
Warren wouldn't get that for her though. Warren doesn't get Clinton any new votes.
User 463088
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I've actually warmed up to the idea of Warren as Veep. She's actually an effective attack dog against Trump. It's another pull to women voters who maybe arent' 100% in love with Queen. Her conversion from a Republican do a Democrat could also be relateively useful It would be a way to bring in the Bernie Sanders wing who aren't 100% out of reach but who also don't love the idea of voting for Hillary. It's not the worst idea I've ever heard. I still think we should use the position to shore up support for a future party leader.
Also, I know none of you will take my alcohol recommendtations seriously, but totally buy Smirnoff Ice Electric Berry RIGHT NOW. Soooooo goooood.
And yes I've had one. And a half.
Also, I know none of you will take my alcohol recommendtations seriously, but totally buy Smirnoff Ice Electric Berry RIGHT NOW. Soooooo goooood.
And yes I've had one. And a half.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
She appeals to the demographic of people who would vote for Trump over Bernie Sanders because they are salty. The fact that this is a statistically insignificant number (particularly in November) is a different story.
She's picking a young, inoffensive dude.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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It's just an embarrassing and disturbing story by itself.
StopMakingSense
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I can still dream of Clinton/Franken....
Really? I'd be mystified by the choice, but I would still vote Obama in that scenario, though I would have been even more nervous come time for election results than I was. Might just be me though.
jack_package_200
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Magick Ritual Planned Tonight in Portland to "Raise the Energy" for Bernie Sanders
http://www.portlandmercury.com/blog...rtland-to-raise-the-energy-for-bernie-sanders
https://go.berniesanders.com/page/event/detail/volunteeractivityormeetings/44s5y
Its an official event.
Maybe they should have Melisandre try to bring back the campaign.
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ BERNIE TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
http://www.portlandmercury.com/blog...rtland-to-raise-the-energy-for-bernie-sanders
https://go.berniesanders.com/page/event/detail/volunteeractivityormeetings/44s5y
Its an official event.
Maybe they should have Melisandre try to bring back the campaign.
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ BERNIE TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
The establishment is dark and full of terrors.
User 85168
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ASOIAF Show spoilers
There's gotta be a Shireen and Feel the Bern joke to be made here
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Don't summon the Devil, don't call the priest. If you need strength, then conjure me.
Divine intervention is really his only shot, makes sense it's an official event
The Bernie to Trump crowd never cared about his issues in the first place, nothing she does would get them to vote for her. They'd just throw Warren under the bus.
That really would be the best. Especially if Trump picked Newt, could you even imagine it?
This cannot be serious.
teruterubozu
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I don't want Warren soiling herself as the official attack dog on Trump. What a horrible, lowly job.
Aaron Strife
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Jack Remington
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Yes, but it would likely lead to Republican strategists soiling themselves.
teruterubozu
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eh, it's just dripping shit everywhere. She's better than that. Cuz you know with Trump it's gonna get low.
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
If one were a liar, perhaps, and needed to inflate a baseless claim into something that might be confused as a winning argument, or deflate a well-founded claim into something that looks more like--well, like what you typically have to offer.
This is what I mean when I say bluster. Anyone who can read can recognize that you've misrepresented my argument--or rather, my five distinct arguments (i.e., (1) Clinton's server included information classified at the time it was placed on the server; (2) Clinton's server included information that would have been recognized as classified by a person who cared about following the rules regarding classification; (3) The status of information as classified is not altered by its being marked, or not marked, as such; (4) Clinton knew that; and (5) The State Department can't declassify information classified by another agency.) You make no serious effort--who am I kidding? No effort, serious or otherwise--to address these arguments. You handwave away the first four and try to hide your dishonesty with a "so basically" that can't even "basically" get the one argument it does address right. You have to misrepresent it by adding in the unproved assertion that Clinton was unaware she was playing host to classified information and adding the adjective "obscure" to a fundamental element of the classification system in the United States (that Hillary expressly agreed to follow).
As I've pointed out before, the people arguing that the only thing that matters is whether Clinton violated the criminal law are the ones taking a hyper-technical posture. You're projecting your own frailties onto me, Jack.
You're being dishonest again. From the links I gave you, I further linked to or referenced the following sources:
- A letter from the Inspectors General of the Intelligence Community and State Department regarding top secret information found last summer among Clinton's emails;
- A review by the CIA and NGA confirming the conclusion of that letter that such information was classified when sent;
- Another letter from the ICIG referring to other information found in Clinton's emails as having been derived from classified IC materials;
- An NDA relating to Sensitive Compartmented Information, signed by Clinton;
- An NDA relating to classified information generally, signed by Clinton;
- EO 13526.
Even the ones that got you banned? Inquiring minds and all that.
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Civil, transactional work. Taxes, estates, real estate, business organizations.
He should have just called "John" over and then lowered his tone and continued the interview.
gutter_trash
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Macho Madness
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I mean I think a lot of us already figured Trump was a sociopath but this Millergate stuff
whyamihere
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This is insane. Legitimately insane. Trump is an insane person.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Appreciate the knowledge, Metaphoreus. That being said, day 3...
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
Don't look at me. Jack's the one who keeps bringing it up.
Jack Remington
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Of the email argument?
That wasn't knowledge.
And there's nothing stopping people from conceding that this is a partisan nothing-burger. But they don't, so...
And will continue to do so, as long as people make the same ridiculous arguments. This isn't an "agree to disagree" kind of thing.
User 463088
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I don't know what's happened to me....but that Bernie event sounds kind of nice, really. I mean, if you believe in prayer/magick/whatever...it's nice that his campaign is being inclusive? And...after being on the other side of "My candidate has no chance in hell, but I STILL BELIEVE DAMN IT TO HELL PLEASE GOD LET HER WIN" if it makes them feel good and they don't hurt anyone? Have at it. Blessed be. Etc.
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