That's ridiculous. They never thought someone would game the system??
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT1| From Russia with Love
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White supremacists like Bannon believe a Racial Holy War (they call it RaHoWa) is coming and will do anything they feel will trigger it happening.
So yeah, he's pretty much intentionally trying to feed ISIS recruitment.
Oh wow, that news certain got buried. Obama didn't file until 2011 for the 2012 election, for comparison.
Or grassroots political movements. Non-profit status only matters if you're needing federal or state funds, I think? I was looking at this just before Christmas, but can't remember the specifics now. In any case, informal local political activists should be able to talk about this, right? Call your group something catchy, and start protesting outside local state buildings, and on college campuses. Also, celebrities and liberal millionaires/billionaires? As long as it's not Susan Sarandon, though.
UberTag
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Incidentally, this is the angle the media needs to keep Trump's feet to the fire. Don't allow him to posit that his refugee ban has ANYTHING to do with keeping America safe but is, in fact, a gambit to put Americans in danger by provoking an ISIS response by subjugating Muslims who, historically, have never posed a single documented threat to Americans on their home soil.
If Trump was being honest, Saudi Arabia would be on that list. They're not so he's a liar. Don't let the Conways and Spicers of the world squirm their way around this point. They can't argue it and it will taint the legitimacy of this executive order even in the eyes of Trump's most ardent followers.
RaHoWa. You learn something new every day. Per wiki:
Any actual evidence Bannon actually believes this?
Read Brietbart. White supremacists know there's active counter movements against them so they all dance around literally saying it on their PR fronts, but nobody stands by that flood of racial hatred bile and isn't a white supremacist
Yeah, that sounds like the closest direct confirmation we're going to get. That's basically "revert time back to white power and black slavery" the movement.
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Is Beautiful and Talented Kellyanne on any Sunday morning shows today?
BadenBadenLily
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I don't know about the holy race war stuff but he is on the record as believing in dark enlightenment theory. Which is fucking terrifying all on its own.
balladofwindfishes
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I don't think this would hold up in court. Trump isn't actively campaigning. He isn't running campaign ads. He isn't making campaign speeches. He's acting as president, not candidate.
A Human Becoming
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Is he in on the joke or did he misread the last word?
balladofwindfishes
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Remember when he'd allow "persecuted Christian immigrants"
Guess that's thrown out the window when they're dark skinned
Guess that's thrown out the window when they're dark skinned
Hahahaha
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Democrats should start saying Trump is humiliating the US, that he clearly has no idea what he's doing, that his administration is clearly unable to advise him, and that those who manage to do so like Bannon and Miller (name them) are giving him the worst advice they could and one must wonder if they're doing it on purpose.
It's so easy.
Also, US troops dying for Saudi Arabia in Yemen, crazy.
It's so easy.
Also, US troops dying for Saudi Arabia in Yemen, crazy.
Frank the Great
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I mean, the other side would be having a field day creating narratives if the tables were turned. Democrats are just not good at this game.
Carpe Libertatem
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This gives Trump an easy out by firing Bannon and Miller. Not sure this is a great idea.
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Bannon and Miller being fired would be an objective win for America. There's no problem with that at all.
Trump's actions wouldn't be nearly as harmful without their influence.
Carpe Libertatem
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Yes, it'd be a win. But if your goal is to damage Trump and deny him reelection focusing on those two is not the smart move. I also think that his actions could be very, very harmful even without their influence.
Besides, let's be real, they'd only be "fired" from the White House staff. They'd surely still have Trump's ear.
Yeah, exactly this. It's a little broad, but you need to essentially remind everyone that Trump and the GOP are entirely complicit in what's going on, and accept - if not applaud - every event that happens. Whilst Trump may in fact be ignorant of what's going on, he shouldn't be given that out - ignorance should be no excuse, for anyone involved.
The GOP are going into this with their eyes wide-open, so make them own every single heartbroken family torn apart, every professional or academic denied entry, every raped woman forced to carry their attacker's child to term, and every single death due to the ACA repeal.
Just like Hillary had surrogates on the campaign trail, the Democrats need to push respected or well-known people - celebrity activists for instance - on to CNN/MSNBC/whatever to hammer home how bad this all is.
I mean, Mark Ruffalo, George Clooney, Katy Perry, Angelina Jolie - these people are politically active to one degree or another, and can put a famous face to what's happening.
I think he's crazy. Literally. Even OG Trump despite being a womanizer and rapist did not say this shit when he was a lot younger.Wait. Is this real?! lmao
I know it's from 2012... but it just goes to show you how this hypocritical lunatic thinks.
Watch him turn around and do the same thing he accused Obama of potentially doing.
I don't think it works that well TBH. Those in the know who would get this are already opposed to Trump. For those not in the know it's just confusing, and it excuses Trump from what he's doing.
(Let's remember Trump was talking about a Muslim ban 8 months before Bannon got on board. This isn't Bannon, this is pure racist Trump)
Oh boy would this super-duper not work a bit.
Baron von Loathsome
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You mean "elitists," as many on the right dismissed them as? That didn't work when Joss Whedon tried it last year, I can't imagine it'll work now.
Great, another Hindenburg
metalslimer
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Please no famous people. It's fine for them to do their own thing but I don't think it's ever proven successful at convincing people of anything.
Yeah, we need Democratic Mayors on TV instead of DC talking heads.
metalslimer
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I'd also like to see up and coming young talent in relatively unknown areas get promoted more
TheLaughingStock
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The stock market has fluctuations often that have nothing to do with the aggregate economy. The fact that some keep lashing out because the market isn't tanking as they repeatedly predict is pretty sad.
Carpe Libertatem
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Mix in personal stories from everyday people, as well as stories from businesses, too.
Jason Kander has been making a lot of appearances on CNN and such calling out the bullshit. More of that would be fantastic! Get some of these young, fiery unknowns on the national stage.
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It was amazing how all the concerns over Nana ruth went out the window
Plinko
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The democrats need to get their crap in order ASAP. Wasting valuable time and opportunity here.
Pick a leader for the DNC.
Start organizing TOGETHER, just like republicans do.
Start publicly attacking and politicizing each republican who does not speak out against this stuff.
I knew this was going to happen. Wait for it to start happening in allied countries.
So professional.
Pick a leader for the DNC.
Start organizing TOGETHER, just like republicans do.
Start publicly attacking and politicizing each republican who does not speak out against this stuff.
I knew this was going to happen. Wait for it to start happening in allied countries.
So professional.
I think celebrities have a place in getting the word out, and the Left shouldn't be brow-beaten into accepting certain groups are "elitist". Amal Clooney (George's wife) is dual-nationality American-Lebanese, born in Beirut. She's also a barrister specialising in international law and human rights. A "couples" appearance from her and George would put a famous and professional face on what's happening. Angelina Jolie is a Special Envoy for the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. Mark Ruffalo has been supporting the activists against the Dakota Pipeline.
It's not about how liberals see it, it's about how swing voters see it.
Abinash117
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Yep it will. There are about 2,500 contractors in Iraq I think. I guess military will be exempt for now. Maybe after Mosul.
The political fallout is outstanding. The administration will be so dealing with consequences that they have done.
Indeed. Difference of opinion, for sure, but I think George and Amal saying how awful this all is would be more likely to swing people against Trump, than to him. Remember, these are average people, not your Pepe-swilling meme-artists, or the activists that Bernie impassioned. People who watch The Bachelor. People who watch Jeopardy. People who just live their lives, free of nerdiness or White Nationalism.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I was originally onboard with celebrities after the election, but this first week has been worse than I had imagined.
By the end of this, Americans are going to want somebody experienced with a good record. Biden is the guy for that. He knows how to get under Trump's skin. He knows how to relate to the average voter. He's folksy.
By the end of this, Americans are going to want somebody experienced with a good record. Biden is the guy for that. He knows how to get under Trump's skin. He knows how to relate to the average voter. He's folksy.
Oh, to be clear - I'm totally not arguing for a celebrity President or VP. I'm arguing for politically interested and professional celebrities to just raise awareness of how crappy this all is on the nightly news.
Abinash117
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Exactly my thought. People should want somebody who has the experience to fix what Trump broke.
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How are you still not fucking ashamed to wear that avatar?
Abinash117
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The stock market opens on Monday. I would think it would be negative effected by the news, right? Many industries, not just tech needs immigrants. Additionally, corporations might be worried about how many countries will react.
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