Dubbedinenglish
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Iraq just reciprocated the EO, extended to contractors as well.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT1| From Russia with Love
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RustyNails
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Mosul is fucked now. ISIS' prayers answered.
balladofwindfishes
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It really is crazy. Week 2 and we're heading into a crisis situation. Mass protests all over the country, foreign policy disasters, legal challenges left and right and a president that's going in direct violation of a court order.
2016 may go down as the most influential election in the history of our country.
I think this next week will be the tipping point before some very, very bad things begin happening.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Putting the Muslim ban on Iraq was really the dumbest part of this from a foreign policy perspective.
ISIS has to be believed they were blessed by God to get this happen.
ISIS has to be believed they were blessed by God to get this happen.
balladofwindfishes
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Considering all this nonsense is getting in the way of the GOP doing what the GOP actually wanted to do (eliminate social programs and cut rich people taxes), I wonder at what point do they finally just put their foot down and yell "STOP" at Trump.
Amongst the currently known options, Franken seems like he would be a very good possibility for a democratic President.
Though at the rate the U.S. is going, Trump will name himself ruler for life before the next election.
Also - the Muslim registry will show up, but be thinly veiled like the refugee/immigrant ban. They will seek to create a registry of 'potential threats' or some vague equivalent. And those 'threats' will just happen to be 99% Muslim. I wonder what that Muslim comedian who got a denial from Trump's slimy-as-shit son thinks now...
The U.S. is in the beginning of the consolidation phase of a dictator firming up his control.
Remember the silence of the GOP when judgement comes to pass on all that is happening.
Though at the rate the U.S. is going, Trump will name himself ruler for life before the next election.
Also - the Muslim registry will show up, but be thinly veiled like the refugee/immigrant ban. They will seek to create a registry of 'potential threats' or some vague equivalent. And those 'threats' will just happen to be 99% Muslim. I wonder what that Muslim comedian who got a denial from Trump's slimy-as-shit son thinks now...
The U.S. is in the beginning of the consolidation phase of a dictator firming up his control.
Remember the silence of the GOP when judgement comes to pass on all that is happening.
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The majority of the order does stand. There is one particular point that was ruled against, and in one or two airports people are reportedly not complying with that. That is wrong, and they should absolutely be arrested. But that's not a sign of a widespread order from Trump to disobey the federal court.
Ether_Snake
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Trump will need a war to deflect criticism, so he'll probably get congress to declare war by the end of February, right after the 30-day limit to come up with a plan to defeat IS, which is just an excuse to declare it at that point. Dems will have to vote in favor of it.
Welp, McCain & Graham finally showed up:
http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=587F2A2D-8A47-48F7-9045-CF30F0A77889
http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=587F2A2D-8A47-48F7-9045-CF30F0A77889
Kwansu Dudes
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Can someone explain if, "everything is going to be alright" is a meme? I've seen this posted by a few pro-Trump people I know after he won and I don't know if it's a subtle "fuck you, we won" statement or tongue-in-cheek.
edit: thanks!
edit: thanks!
It's a "fuck you we won" statement with the idea that all Clinton supporters were crying babies.
balladofwindfishes
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So at what point can the FBI storm Trump Tower and arrest him?
He'll have entered Andrew Jackson territory and that's not a good place for us to have a president.
Baron von Loathsome
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Glad to see there's some sanity coming from the Republican camp.
Carpe Libertatem
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Well, he did compare himself to Jackson this week! It was really self-aware, actually.
metalslimer
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These people defying the court order need to be a national story.
TumblingHippo
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The problem I'm seeing is that these are the same republicans that have been shat on by Trump and his supporters for the last two years.
I feel like this last election I gave democrats the benefit of a doubt. I don't even know who to really trust to stop any of this anymore.
http://www.vox.com/2017/1/29/14427466/republican-congress-silent-trump-refugee
Vox has a running list going.
Words are wind. I won't believe anything these spineless shits say until they prove they're willing to stand up to Trump with action instead of talking a big game and then completely capitulating.
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I still think the CIA is going to be the ones working toward this. He has oublivly bashed them, excluded them from NSC meetings, etc.
Baron von Loathsome
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Of course Paul Ryan supports it the fucking slimeball.
metalslimer
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Paul Ryan was such a little fuckboi for coming out so early to defend Trump. Especially as the tide of public opinion is rapidly turning against him
Yeah, he looks like a moron right now. Especially when you compare it to what the slime ball turtle said.
SCOTUS needs to intervene fast.
RustyNails
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Good that McCain standing up the fascist, but such a week kneed response. He's pissing in the wind. Bad Trumpy. BAD. This is how you properly implement a Muslim ban - through consultations and stuff.
RustyNails
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That's not happening, no way. Seriously only intervention for the refugees was their attorney. If you cut that link, it's over. Airports, airlines, FBI, embassies, ambassadors etc can't do shit.
Manmademan
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what on earth is going ON today??
Trump can't possibly be doubling down on ignoring a federal court order?
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When was the last time a president ordered government officials to ignore a court order?
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What are the chances Miller/Bannon will be kicked out by Trump? Trump can still carry out the same overall policies, and still be a puppet for Putin, without them in the WH. At some point he might think he's better off without them.
Scotus won't do anything.
I want to say Andrew Jackson when he was told to stop his campaign of ethnic cleansing against our Native American population.
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RustyNails
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Bannon is the king of Alt-Right base. This base is politically active, enthusiastic, internet savvy and pro-Trump.
metalslimer
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The last time it even came close I believe was during watergate
And no Bannon isn't getting fired as he is the base of all of this. Remove Bannon and Trump wouldn't give two shits about pumping out these orders so fast. Priebus would take over and his agenda would match congressional republicans
Brawndo Addict
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Maybe Bannon was 100% serious when he said he wanted to destroy the state; he doesn't actually want to help Trump succeed, he just wants to use Trump as a tool to destroy our government. What better way to do that than by trying to force a constitutional crisis as quickly as possible?
The only way it happens is if Democrats try the "President Bannon" approach and Trump just loses it because people think they're the ones in charge.
I think there's a decent chance Ivanka/Kushner could kick them out too.
Roland_Gunner
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The response is fine. Its the strongest language you'll see from a senator talking about the President from their party. But until McCain and Graham actually start voting against people like Sessions they may as well stfu.
McGinty is gonna win bro.
Oh man those were the days.
And yes the order is being ignored by some
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump didn't even tell American diplomats in Baghdad that he was going to ban immigration from Iraq before he did it.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ban-could-hurt-u-s-iraqi-ties-diplomats-say-1485713137
What a dumbass.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ban-could-hurt-u-s-iraqi-ties-diplomats-say-1485713137
What a dumbass.
Seriously. THIS IS GOING TO HELP ISIS. And it does fuck all for our safety. In fact it puts us at risk if anything.
It's becoming quite clear that Bannon and Trump's idea of how the presidency should function is like that of a dictatorship, so we might as well call Trump what he is.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Schumer has proposed the liberal pipe dream of infrastructure plans.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-infrastructure-deal-democrats-234279
It seems like this may just be a facade where Schumer pretends to work with Trump and then says Trump just couldn't close the deal when the bill falls apart due to zero Republican support.
I'm pretty sure that Trump could be impeached at any time and has no attempted to pass any laws that appropriate funds or things like that yet (thus not usurping the power of Congress).
He's just a dumbfuck who doesn't tell important government people what he's doing and our constitution sucks, that's not dictatorship yet.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-infrastructure-deal-democrats-234279
It seems like this may just be a facade where Schumer pretends to work with Trump and then says Trump just couldn't close the deal when the bill falls apart due to zero Republican support.
I'm pretty sure that Trump could be impeached at any time and has no attempted to pass any laws that appropriate funds or things like that yet (thus not usurping the power of Congress).
He's just a dumbfuck who doesn't tell important government people what he's doing and our constitution sucks, that's not dictatorship yet.
Likely the point of doing this so quickly and so loosely. These motherfuckers want an attack on our soil so they can justify all kinds of bullshit while garnering public support.
The constitution so desperately needs to be amended. Sadly Dems are so weak that's not going to happen, if anything the Republicans will as they're much closer to that reality.
But yeah, the only thing that I can see saving us from yet another era of far-right fuckery is amending the constitution from a center left or centrist point of view.
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