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[sc0la]

This is a dumb fight. Ellison and Perez are both awesome picks (Mayor Pete pour one out for ya) Can't wait for this to finally end.

If mayor Pete is as awesome as his hype squad makes it out to be he would be wasted at the DNC
It's not a typical step stool to higher office.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

ABS O'MALLEY FOR DNC CHAIR

 

[eBay Huckster]

ABS O'MALLEY FOR DNC CHAIR

not all of him, just his abs

 

[Wilsongt]

why are you still here

Some bernie supporters never get tired of shitting on the DNC. Duh.

Unless Bernie was president, VP, and DNC chair all at the same time, Bernie supporters will never be happy.

 

[kaskade]

I really haven't been following the DNC chair stuff much, anything to explain the big differences between the two. I know ellison endorsed bernie and perez endorsed clinton. Other than that they both seem to have the same idea that the dems need a better local ground game.

 

[sc0la]

not all of him, just his abs

The 6 Political Action Committee

 

[eBay Huckster]

I really haven't been following the DNC chair stuff much, anything to explain the big differences between the two.

no

Spoiler

because THERE ARE NO BIG DIFFERENCES

literally, they're calling for the same things and it makes sense for the winner to appoint the loser to some Important DNC Position Befitting Their Strengths

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

If Ellison doesn't get it, as seems likely, I hope they start moving him into House leadership to maybe take over for Pelosi. He's really good and it seems like a waste to just keep him as some congressman.

Of course that would be a concession to us petulant children so whatever.

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

I really haven't been following the DNC chair stuff much, anything to explain the big differences between the two. I know ellison endorsed bernie and perez endorsed clinton. Other than that they both seem to have the same idea that the dems need a better local ground game.

You basically covered the difference.

 

[LostMyNarbles]

I mean Ellison and Perez are friends, couldn't Perez give him a position in outreach and organizing pretty easily?

Edit: he wouldn't even have to quit his gig since it wouldn't have the total DNC to steer.

So when this happens is it fair to expect Bernie fans to immediately write him off as a corporate sellout and pretend to have never supported him?

 

[Aaron Strife]

Superdelegates, DNC members, are still stupid? News at 11.

Angie Craig for DNC Chair

She won't even have to give up her seat in Congress!

 

[davepoobond]

If Ellison doesn't get it, as seems likely, I hope they start moving him into House leadership to maybe take over for Pelosi. He's really good and it seems like a waste to just keep him as some congressman.

Of course that would be a concession to us petulant children so whatever.

I think that would be great to have him in the house leadership since he is already there. But how safe is his district?

 

[B-Dubs]

I really haven't been following the DNC chair stuff much, anything to explain the big differences between the two. I know ellison endorsed bernie and perez endorsed clinton. Other than that they both seem to have the same idea that the dems need a better local ground game.

That is the difference.

 

[Cybit]

I think that would be great to have him in the house leadership since he is already there. But how safe is his district?

You'd have a better chance of winning as a socialist in that district than as a Republican.

 

[eBay Huckster]

I think that would be great to have him in the house leadership since he is already there. But how safe is his district?

it's D+22, which i'm pretty sure is 9th-safest in the midwest

(safest is IL-7 at D+36)

 

[thehypocrite]

If Ellison wins I am voting for Donald Trump in 2018. We don't have any room for liberals in our party.

If fits with your DINO persona.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

I think that would be great to have him in the house leadership since he is already there. But how safe is his district?

Really safe, though it's not like we've prioritized leadership in safe states before. The Speaker for the years Clinton had the House was from Western Washington which is pretty red. Daschle was from South Dakota. Reid was from a swing state. I don't think seat safety is much of a factor.

 

[dramatis]

It's still going?

I know we went through two years of grueling election but somehow this DNC chair race seems abysmally slow.

 

[kaskade]

Ok, so either of them are pretty much fine. I'm guessing the super progressive bernie supporters don't like perez for not endorsing him.

 

[kirblar]

If Ellison doesn't get it, as seems likely, I hope they start moving him into House leadership to maybe take over for Pelosi. He's really good and it seems like a waste to just keep him as some congressman.

Of course that would be a concession to us petulant children so whatever.

Ellison's not showing he's capable of keeping his troops in line, which is basically THE job of the House leader. House leadership is all inwardly focused - its not where you put your hype men/rabblerousers.

 

[Tall4Life]

If Ellison and Perez are basically the same, why did the Obama camp even make Perez run in the first place?

Oh wait....

 

[Y2Kev]

If fits with your DINO persona.

Why do I get no appreciation for funding all the special programs you democrats like, like testing evian vs. fiji water on tree frogs, PBS broadcasting finger painting using imaginary colors sung by opera singers, and the Brooklyn Academy of Muzak?

 

[Aaron Strife]

Really safe, though it's not like we've prioritized leadership in safe states before. The Speaker for the years Clinton had the House was from Western Washington which is pretty red. Daschle was from South Dakota. Reid was from a swing state. I don't think seat safety is much of a factor.

I feel like we should certainly consider it more than we have been. Daschle losing was embarrassing and then Reid gave us heartburn just six years later.

That's why I was fine with Schumer or Durbin (at least in this regard, Durbin was my preference overall) because neither of them will ever be at significant risk of losing their seats unless IL and NY suddenly lurch 20 points right.

 

[thehypocrite]

Why do I get no appreciation for funding all the special programs you democrats like, like testing evian vs. fiji water on tree frogs, PBS broadcasting finger painting using imaginary colors sung by opera singers, and the Brooklyn Academy of Muzak?

I thought that was the reason you were mod for all your contributions to the key issues on the progressive agenda

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

I feel like we should certainly consider it more than we have been. Daschle losing was embarrassing and then Reid gave us heartburn just six years later.

That's why I was fine with Schumer or Durbin (at least in this regard, Durbin was my preference overall) because neither of them will ever be at significant risk of losing their seats unless IL and NY suddenly lurch 20 points right.

Maybe, I'm too young to actually have been around for Daschle losing or anything. Though if he'd gotten those extra 4k votes or whatever we'd probably be way better off. Ugh.

 

[Y2Kev]

No, I got that for donating a lot like betsy devos.

 

[thefro]

If mayor Pete is as awesome as his hype squad makes it out to be he would be wasted at the DNC
It's not a typical step stool to higher office.

He's more than doubled his follower count & majorly raised his profile, so I think his campaign was a huge success. Won't have trouble raising money/getting media attention.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Maybe, I'm too young to actually have been around for Daschle losing or anything. Though if he'd gotten those extra 4k votes or whatever we'd probably be way better off. Ugh.

Eh, he almost certainly would have lost in 2010. Although I guess we would have had 61 votes in the Senate through Obama's first two years then at least, which probably would have let us squeeze out one more big reform bill akin to ACA or Dodd-Frank. Or we might not have needed to compromise on the Bush tax cuts.

(This assuming there wouldn't have been a ripple effect in other races, I can't imagine that many people take the current majority margin into consideration)

 

[thehypocrite]

No, I got that for donating a lot like betsy devos.

Like a true red hearted boy scout that believes in the power of market forces to give us the meritocracy we deserve, as commanded by our Judeo-Christian God.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

Eh, he almost certainly would have lost in 2010. Although I guess we would have had 61 votes in the Senate through Obama's first two years then at least, which probably would have let us squeeze out one more big reform bill akin to ACA or Dodd-Frank. Or we might not have needed to compromise on the Bush tax cuts.

Oh yeah he'd definitely have been crushed in 2010, I just mean having the extra vote means the drama around Kennedy and Franken and Lieberman would have been less relevant since it was always on the knife's edge. It also would've been nice to have a single payer advocate in the leadership when trying to pass a big healthcare bill. Oh well.

 

[And_Gignac]

Perez nomination was a petty move from the very beginning. Makes you wonder which group is actually trying to relitigate the primary.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Oh yeah he'd definitely have been crushed in 2010, I just mean having the extra vote means the drama around Kennedy and Franken and Lieberman would have been less relevant since it was always on the knife's edge. It also would've been nice to have a single payer advocate in the leadership when trying to pass a big healthcare bill. Oh well.

Yeah, wonder if Lieberman's position would have been less relevant then. I feel like him coming out against the public option gave Lincoln and Nelson cover to also oppose it.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I don't know what a booty jug is, but it must rank pretty high on the all-time sex toy list to get that kind of applause.

 

[Y2Kev]

Perez nomination was a petty move from the very beginning. Makes you wonder which group is actually trying to relitigate the primary.

Yes I guess Obamaland is trying to relitigate the primary.

 

[Officerrob]

Perez wins, let the whining commence

 

[Deleted member 231381]

lol party is dead

 

[eBay Huckster]

Yes I guess Obamaland is trying to relitigate the primary.

turns out obama's trying to relitigate the 2008 primary

 

[Geist-]

Well, that's that.

 

[thefro]

damn, Ellison gained 0 votes from ballot one.

 

[Mr.Shrugglesツ]

Ouch, didn't gain a single vote on round two.

 

[ezekial45]

God dammit.

 

[ShironRedshift]

Perez nomination was a petty move from the very beginning. Makes you wonder which group is actually trying to relitigate the primary.

If you really want to take that stance, you don't have to fall for it or whatever. Takes two to tango and all that--no one forces you to dance along and have your strings manipulated or whatever but you yourself.

 

[Holmes]

Thing is he blew such a big lead and the whole Pete endorsement was such a stupid move that they had to end Dean's actual endorsement with (this is real). I don't think if he loses it would be such a bad thing considering how incompetent he seems.

 

[whyamihere]

Perez wins.

That's a shame.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Perez wins I am okay with that.

 

[Tarydax]

I don't mind Perez, especially since he can actually keep his people in line.

 

[eBay Huckster]

anyway now it's time for people to pretend to care about this for a week before we move onto the next clear and present (almost entirely internet-centered) excuse to avoid actually doing any partybuilding outrage against The Left

 

[shem935]

lol party is dead

You would know about dead liberal parties wouldn't you? We better watch out.

 

[Y2Kev]

God dammit.

is this for real? why would anyone possibly think this is important enough to warrant a reaction that's not :farttttt

 

[dramatis]

Okay, so what's the list of stuff that needs to be done?