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This is fine, especially after the Mayor Pete thing. That's how losers run campaigns.
People in glass houses covered in excrement that's on fire shouldn't throw stones.
Oh fuuuuuuuuuck
Bonen no Max'd
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looks like the Alt-Right is correct and the Jews do control everything, rigging it against the Muslim
I'm not actually salty, just kind of annoyed
also surprised SBB moved to support Perez, probably got something out of it?
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If they'd only chosen Lamb... Tim, Tim, Nice But Dim was never going to cut the mustard.
thehypocrite
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Oh well, that's how it goes. Same old same. The people that lost everything want to continue in control of everything cause they have the power to do so.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
That was nice of Perez to do.
RastaMentality
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WaPo: "Tom Perez elected to lead DNC in a blow to liberal wing"
let's goooo
let's goooo
Carpe Libertatem
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The irony of a Bernie supporter saying this is fantastic
Should everyone have just bowed out of the race to let Ellison be anointed DNC chair?
Mr.Shrugglesã
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If only hillary would have done the same
StormBrute
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Perez is competent, and he hasn't been showing his ass like Ellison has been starting to, so I'm happy with this.
thehypocrite
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But nobody cares haven't you seen the opinions on GAF?
The thing w/ Mayor Pete was disastrous. They probably would have lost anyway, but that all but guaranteed it. That was guaranteed to piss fence-sitters off.
I feel like I can express how disappointing it for Ellison to have lost. I don't have any problems with Perez, really, just that he's really bland and doesn't come across as a guy with some fresh ideas. He seems really safe, to a fault. Which I feel is not the way we should go.
Still, I'm glad that Ellison is deputy chair at least. He should absolutely be up there in DNC leadership is some form.
metalslimer
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The WaPo headline is horrendous, really disappointed.
Obama won his primary and both his presidential elections.
I highly doubt this is the attitude you took in June 2016.
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It's a true statement, though.
And_Gignac
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Nah. But if Perez and Ellison were basically the same, then I don't understand what need there was to run Perez. Other than a petty power play that will keep the party divided.
Dominican Power
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Making such a huge deal over the DNC chair.
Bonen no Max'd
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sending emails about how much Ellison hates Jews and what a scary muslim he is probably didn't help either
He won because he's one of the most gifted politicians to have ever lived. The party as a whole collapsed around him.
Perez has almost the same plans for the DNC that Ellison did
Ellison wanted a plan for every county, Perez wants a plan for every zip code
It's the same thing
whyamihere
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GAF is fire today.
Would love to know what Perez has done to warrant any sort of division.
thehypocrite
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Of course not cause much has changed since then. Only a fool would have the same attitude with all the negative shit that are impacting the lives of everyone here. Do you?
RastaMentality
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between this mess and the remy diss, my twitter is on fire.
The Technomancer
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Buckle up
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For the record, I don't really have much problem with Perez. I quite like the guy - you might remember I was suggesting him as an alternative to Tim "Who?" Kaine as Clinton's VP choice. I'm not really disappointed Perez as a person is DNC chair. However, I think the open and obvious rejection of a candidate who clearly had more popular support from the party grassroots was an absolutely terrible message to send. It just cements the DNC as out of touch and encourages disengagement.
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thehypocrite
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Shush, they are squeaky clean and perfect, that's why imperfect liberals won't do, they have to be perfect!!
Nothing, really. People are just afraid the Bernie busters are going to revolt and that the party is going to implode on itself.
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Don't really see why. I didn't vote Corbyn, and having seen the firsthand struggles of Labour probably does give me a pretty good idea of what is and is not a stupid thing to do.
Mr.Shrugglesã
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He won't clear his throat.
metalslimer
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If this is really how little it takes to disengage people with Trump as president we are fucked either way
Carpe Libertatem
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They aren't *exactly* the same, but every DNC candidate is going to be talking about a 50-state strategy. Experience, personality, etc all matter. Perez was able to convince people and Ellison couldn't despite early momentum and big endorsements from all wings of the party.
Again, the irony in your statement is palpable coming from a Bernie supporter.
It reflects a party that isn't listening to its base
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You need to stop taking people for granted. "The other guy is worse" isn't enough.
Bonen no Max'd
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yeah this basically
it's like, right, it's not a big deal but it's clearly saying "we don't want your input or involvement, just your votes"
I'm not going to start voting Republican or Green because of this, I'm just annoyed.
Cesare Borgia
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Always love when people who aren't even in the party are the first to declare it's dead when they don't get their way.
A good candidate was going to win today either way. Grats to Perez. Now time to get to work.
A good candidate was going to win today either way. Grats to Perez. Now time to get to work.
BlackClouds
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Yep, I'm content with Perez winning. The "liberal wing" are acting like children it's a bad idea to follow their lead. I'm sure some will throw a hissy fit and keep on wishing everything falls apart because they didn't get their way, withdraw and do other self destructive things just so they can say they say "I told you so."
We said this before the election and it fucked us
metalslimer
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I agree with this, but Perez is a very liberal candidate who will do just as good of a job as Ellison would have. If electing him DNC chair is what disengages people than at some point they were going to become disengaged either way
No having a bad candidate with years of baggage and a Russian campaign fucked us.
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