Good point! Speaker of the House doesn't actually have to be a member of Congress, right?
Can't wait for Speaker Ivanka Trump!
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Good point! Speaker of the House doesn't actually have to be a member of Congress, right?
Can't wait for Speaker Ivanka Trump!
Infinite Stars
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Complete with Trump/Kushner using her as a bribe to get bills to pass?
I wish I was kidding but I could see Trump doing it.
So much for all the Repeal and Replace bullshit. He puts no effort in doing it and then when they fail to propose anything worthwhile he says fuck it and moves in. Trash.
balladofwindfishes
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The moderates already said EHB was off the table...
That's a good question that no one has an answer to.
I suspect he's asking himself those very same questions. I don't think he understands what he's dealing with, except that he's scared.
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I'm telling you guys, back Representative Tooby Fore for Speaker. He's part of the foundation for a greater America. He's as American as you can get, and he's got more charisma then Paul Ryan.
balladofwindfishes
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If anyone ever gives Pelosi crap in this thread or anywhere, make sure someone points to this fiasco and Paul Ryan for why you need the right person for the job and when the right person exists, keep them.
neurosisxeno
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Reddit has taken to calling him Shouty Spice. That community is a landfill, but every once in a while they come up with some good things.
Hahahahahaha.
Cesare Borgia
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Pelosi is a legend. I'd hope this disaster makes people realize how hard this shit actually is, why majorities alone don't guarantee victories, why horse trading/compromises happen, and why leadership matters. Not just the Speaker, but the president. A lot of democrats ended their political careers for Obama, to get the ACA passed.
Well now I'm just sitting here waiting being subjected to Santorum and Lord :|
I don't get what the Freedom Caucus is even about. They're not libertarians, right? So they want some government involvement, right? But they just don't want government involved in healthcare in any capacity, or is it a "bootstraps" thing?
Like, what's even to negotiate with them about on healthcare?
Like, what's even to negotiate with them about on healthcare?
Dubbedinenglish
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"Fuck it I'm done. I'm going home."
FloydtheFathead
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Pelosi suffered from the same illness that Hillary suffered.. She is a woman in power. She has been demonized by the right as the next satan.
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Fenderputty
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Freedom. The purest sweetest freedom only a full repeal back to 2007 can deliver
Already happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txm9bytud-8&feature=youtu.be
"We are proceeding"
Lol, he doesn't have the votes
ItWasMeantToBe19
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They want no subsidies and no covering pre-existing conditions.
MetalGearZed
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happens to me everytime someone mentions seeing something on CNN lol
*tunes in*
*sees insufferable twat (or two)*
*clicks off immediately*
But what do they think that solves? Didn't we already see it wasn't working back then? It's perplexing; I'm not even thinking about this from a "left" or "right" mindset, just what happened, happened. Why wouldn't it happen again but even worse because of a rollback?
Ziltoidia 9
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Please proceed....congressman?
neurosisxeno
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No. They don't give a fuck about the deficit either. If they did they wouldn't be advocating for all these tax cuts and increased defense spending. They want Imperialism and an Authoritarian Leader.
Republicans have basically wrapped a noose around their own neck with their one hand on the trap door lever and the other hand holding a gun to their head while screaming to themselves, "If you don't pull the lever I'll shoot!!". How they put themselves in such a lose/lose situation is a sight to behold.
Oh so the FC is like the Andrew Jackson people? Wasn't sure which Repubs that was, thought maybe that was the white supremacists Repubs, but I assume there's some crossover?
I'm trying to remember if Obama ever actively threatened other Democrats during the ACA process. I honestly can't remember, but it would seem to be well out of character for him. The fact that the only thing Trump ever knows how to do is threaten just shines a light on how horrible a leader in any capacity he is since he can't bring people together, only antagonize - whether it's his own supporters or the "other".
Dubbedinenglish
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What a clusterfuck lmao
FC is the Tea Party people.
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balladofwindfishes
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How is this threat even going to work?
The Freedom Caucus view this bill and ACA as one and the same. They don't care for either, and don't want either, and have seized immense control of the party from this move.
The moderates don't actually want ACA to be repealed after their town hall meetings traumatized them. They just were willing to go along with it because there was a chance maybe the bill wouldn't be insane.
Yeah I know that much, but do Tea Party folks love Andrew Jackson? Is that their jam?
Andrew Jackson is a white supremacist thing. There's (a lot of) overlap, but it's not the same exact group.
MetalGearZed
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I'm starting to think Trump doesn't know how to be president.
metalslimer
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Lmao at Nancy Pelosi throwing that shade
balladofwindfishes
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If something they have literally been campaigning on doing for 8 years goes like this, stuff like Trump's infrastructure bill, are going to be basically impossible to do.
metalslimer
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Yeah if they had pulled infrastructure off and peeled off democrats first he would have had big capital going forward. He's blown his credibility in 2 months
I saw people joking on twitter that it could be Meadows based on the fact that he was the only player talking to the press today, but even that seems unlikely.
MetalGearZed
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today was a good day...
balladofwindfishes
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I can just imagine the Freedom Caucus
After a hurricane:
"Okay, but we need you to cut Social Security before we'll offer aid to Florida"
Ryan gave them an inch and now they run the party. He let them control him. They've completely dominated the discussion of this bill and gave fence leaners an easy out to also vote no because others are in the herd and more visible and they don't have to worry as much about being singled out.
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