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[Fireblend]

you'll have to get exact details from youtube when it comes out, but Obama supporter barged in with a big sign, crowd freaks out, McCain responds

What did it say? I read something about "war" but didn't quite get the rest.

 

[The Lamonster]

I was at an Obama rally he had in Portsmouth, Ohio on Thursday and some guy in a leather jacket and leather hat behind me was yelling shit about "being a veteran" and Obama being a muslim. We were right beside the stage and there's a very good chance one of the speakers that was introducing Obama at the time, the head of the local VFW no less, could probably hear someone angrily yelling something. I hear some teenage girls start cackling behind me after ignoring the dude and, lo and behold, he was carried away by the secret service. Funny, yet scary, stuff.

Ha, I hope they bloodied his nose.

 

[StoOgE]

Hotline/Diageo has Obama up by 10% today

http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/

This is so over... if the shoe was on the other foot we would all be depressed.

My coworkers the other day actually told me McCain was going to win because the Bradley effect was worth "8-10 points in the polls"

I just looked at him and said "are you so morally bankrupt that you are actually rooting for latent racism to determine this election?"

He didnt say shit.

Then I sent him that study from Princeton that shows it was BS, and one of our conservative coworkers went after him to and said the Bradley effect wasnt racism, it was a gun control measure on the ballot that brought out more conservatives than expected.

It was awesome.

 

[Stoney Mason]

Hotline/Diageo has Obama up by 10% today

http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/

Nice to hear but Diageo swings so wildly with their party ID and percentage increase and drops that it's hard to take that one seriously anymore. As a trend though it's nice to see.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

This is so over... if the shoe was on the other foot we would all be depressed.

My coworkers the other day actually told me McCain was going to win because the Bradley effect was worth "8-10 points in the polls"

I just looked at him and said "are you so morally bankrupt that you are actually rooting for latent racism to determine this election?"

He didnt say shit.

Then I sent him that study from Princeton that shows it was BS, and one of our conservative coworkers went after him to and said the Bradley effect wasnt racism, it was a gun control measure on the ballot that brought out more conservatives than expected.

It was awesome.

So awesome.

 

[Jonm1010]

Thanks, but I was looking for the broadcast from this morning that everyone was talking about on the last page...

I would love to see it too!

 

[Jonm1010]

Found the Bill Burton interview where FoxNews cuts him off!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd27EVNM96o

 

[GoutPatrol]

Bill Burton laying the smackdown on Fox and they have no idea how to respond.

Acorn, acorn acorn acorn! Ayers Ayers Ayers. He even called them out.

HOLY FUCK THEY JUST CUT THE FEED FOR HIM!!!!!! Oh, my, GOD!

Someone, please tell me you recorded that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd27EVNM96o

Has this been posted yet?

EDIT: Fuck one post ahead of me.

 

[The Lamonster]

:lol

Thanks guys


Fox News is operated by a bunch of little 12 year-old twerps.

 

[kkaabboomm]

so chuck todd will update his map on monday, any more VIRGINIA/NC/ohio/COLORADO/NEVADA/FLORIDA polls that might realistically let them push those states from tossup to leanObama? right now they acknowledge small poll leads, but they last updated the map 10/5-6.

since then, Va has had one PPP poll, showing O+8 (O+11, O+2, O+10 right before their last update)
NC, O+1, O+5, and M+2, so i don't think they have any plans to move it
Ohio its O+3, O+2, O+5, so probably not either
Colorado has had one poll, O+6, which ties the one on 10/5 which was +6, so maybe a move here outta tossup?
Nevada has had O+7 and O+2, so probably not...
Florida, this state has had O+3 O+8 O+5 O+2 and then 10/5 O+7

so if virginia could get a poll or two showing a lead...? florida probably not, because of the +3, nevada...colorado has a real shot of being put in the O column, maybe one more poll needed...

basically i'd just like the networks to update their maps to reflect current reality, but i think they need a couple more polls showing a consistent +5 or more lead to feel comfortable...

 

[GhaleonEB]

florida probably not, because of the +3

Of the past 10 polls, nine have Obama ahead in Florida. If they don't swing that, or some other state over to Obama then it's because they don't want to show him with +270 before the election.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/fl/08-fl-pres-ge-mvo.php

 

[Frank the Great]

CO, VA, and FL should all be put in the "lean Obama" category.

 

[The Lamonster]

O 51%
M 42%

McCain +1

 

[Nazgul_Hunter]

Gallup:
O 51
M 42

 

[Tobor]

I would imagine Chuck Todd will be playing "Three Card Monty" with the toss up states a bit longer, just to perpetuate the illusion that McCain has a chance for as long as possible.

 

[Frank the Great]

Gallup:
O 51
M 42

Amazing how steady Obama's lead has been.

Attack ads=not working.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

MCCAIN ALWAYS DOES BETTER ON THE WEEKENDS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *slams the panic button*

 

[Cheebs]

I would imagine Chuck Todd will be playing "Three Card Monty" with the toss up states a bit longer, just to perpetuate the illusion that McCain has a chance for as long as possible.

Chuck Todd is a democrat so I doubt that he has that type of bias (he worked for Democrats in Congress before getting into journalism, and his wife currently works for Sen. Jim Webb).

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Did anyone see msnbc countdown where mccain had to defend obama? :lol So awesome.

 

[kkaabboomm]

Of the past 10 polls, nine have Obama ahead in Florida. If they don't swing that, or some other state over to Obama then it's because they don't want to show him with +270 before the election.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/fl/08-fl-pres-ge-mvo.php

i think the lead has to be, in their view, "significant" - like more than a MOE like 4 or 5%, consistently. which is why i dont think they'll update and move any of those states unless more polls come out.

which is why i was wondering if anyone knew of any polling firms in the field in any of these states.

 

[crowphoenix]

Found the Bill Burton interview where FoxNews cuts him off!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd27EVNM96o

Wow, they could have not made that more obvious that they just cut him off if they said it. :lol

He completely ran circles around them and came off much more intelligently and controlled than I had expected him to be when I first heard of the video. Well done.

 

[The Lamonster]

MCCAIN ALWAYS DOES BETTER ON THE WEEKENDS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *slams the panic button*

Why exactly is that?

 

[Tobor]

Chuck Todd is a democrat so I doubt that he has that type of bias (he worked for Democrats in Congress before getting into journalism, and his wife currently works for Sen. Jim Webb).

It's not a question of bias. It's a question of maintaining dramatic television. I don't think he has a choice in the matter. And it's not just him, CNN is doing the same thing.

EDIT: To be fair, I don't think they can keep it up much longer.

 

[The Librarian]

CO, VA, and FL should all be put in the "lean Obama" category.

They are.
http://pollster.com/
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Found the Bill Burton interview where FoxNews cuts him off!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd27EVNM96o

lol they tried to 'tucker bounds' my guy Burton, he don't play that shit.

 

[WickedAngel]

Oh shit... I know it!:lol

I wrote in Farrakhan

Why exactly is that?

More time for naps.

 

[WickedAngel]

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[lopaz]

lol they tried to 'tucker bounds' my guy Burton, he don't play that shit.

eh, he was dodging the questions a bit. They were asking specifically when Obama knew who Ayers was and he's just saying "Obama finds terrorism detestable!".

The funniest thing however, was when the woman used the fact that Mccain and Palin had been talking about Ayers this week as justification for constantly talking about it. She literally admitted that their topics for reporting come from whatever talking point the Republicans choose to highlight this week

 

[ryutaro's mama]

It seems that the Reps are already laying the foundation for cries of voter fraud.

So even if they lose, they'll sleep better knowing Obama "cheated" to win and didn't actually win.

 

[The Librarian]

It seems that the Reps are already laying the foundation for cries of voter fraud.

So even if they lose, they'll sleep better knowing Obama "cheated" to win and didn't actually win.

It's what terrorists do - cheat.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

lol they tried to 'tucker bounds' my guy Burton, he don't play that shit.

Gibbs is the best Obama spokesman, hands down.

No debate.

Deal closed.

 

[reilo]

It seems that the Reps are already laying the foundation for cries of voter fraud.

So even if they lose, they'll sleep better knowing Obama "cheated" to win and didn't actually win.

Well, except when they do it, then they go to great lengths to cover that shit up.

 

[Frank the Great]

Gibbs is the best Obama spokesman, hands down.

No debate.

Deal closed.

Goolsbee FTW

 

[Tamanon]

“There are plenty of people around the world who are praying to their god, be they Hindu, Buddah, or Allah, that (McCain’s) opponent wins. I pray that you step forward and honor your own name.”

http://iowaindependent.com/6901/john-mccain-davenport-liveblog

Huh.....that's a bit disturbing for an invocation before the McCain rally.

 

[Saint Gregory]

Goolsbee FTW

I'd actually never seen that guy on TV before and then watched him absolutely crush Hannity and Joe Scarborough on consecutive days. So awesome

Edit: I'm talking about Gibbs for clarification.

 

[syllogism]

Ah yes, the great god Hindu

 

[Jonm1010]

Goolsbee FTW

This is the right choice!

 

[Saint Gregory]

Ah yes, the great god Hindu

I prefer to pray to Shiva that Obama wins. Good ol' Shiva, she never lets me down.

 

[blame space]

http://iowaindependent.com/6901/john-mccain-davenport-liveblog

Huh.....that's a bit disturbing for an invocation before the McCain rally.

Holy sh..

No words.

 

[Gruco]

They are.
http://pollster.com/
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

It's a big difference between smaller independent trackers to acknowledge this, and a national news network. If anyone will call it now though, it's the Todd.

Also, I never expected the GA-Sen race to get this exciting. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy than Saxby Chambliss. Actually, GA as a whole is starting to get very interesting.

 

[Frank the Great]

http://iowaindependent.com/6901/john-mccain-davenport-liveblog

Huh.....that's a bit disturbing for an invocation before the McCain rally.

Those people are in their own world. Iowa has always been a Republican state? Is that why they went for Dukakis?

 

[Stoney Mason]

Holy sh..

No words.

You need the good prayers to cancel out the bad prayers.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Today, all three days in the trackers are post-debate. TPM has their daily poll aggregate up, comparing pre and post-debate averages.

	Obama	McCain	Margin
Before	49.7	43.2	6.5
After	50.8	42.5	8.3

IIRC, that's his largest average lead so far.

 

[mckmas8808]

Hotline/Diageo has Obama up by 10% today

http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/

WTF?! McCain is losing this thing fast.

 

[Frank the Great]

I can't believe even the town hall debate helped Obama so much.

The economic debate should be the nail in the coffin. And the Oct. 29th Obama address should bury said coffin.

 

[reilo]

JOHNSTOWN, Pa. -- Palin tried to shift the focus to abortion Saturday, accusing Obama of “unconditional support for unlimited abortions” and opposing a ban on so-called “partial birth abortions.”

“Most troubling though, most troubling even, is that as a state senator, Barack Obama wouldn’t even stand up for the rights of infants born alive during an abortion,” she said. “These infants, often babies with special needs, they’re simply left to die.”

Jesus christ.

Enough with this fear mongering shit already. That's why I hope Obama trounces them to the fucking ground on November 4th.

 

[Slurpy]

I was just watching the full clip with Michelle Laxalt and Kathleen Parker on Larry King Live. Sarah Palin is such a disgrace to these intelligent, thoughtful Republican women..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUpGO_ihCmQ

I'm glad Kathleen Parker has seen the light. She's written alot of trash in her day. Bay Buchanan witll always be a frothing shill.

 

[Frank the Great]

The abortion issue is so hilarious. It boils down to this:

"My opponent loves to kill babies! Vote for us, save the babies!"

Which, when worded this way, sounds completely ridiculous and almost parody-like. But, in essence, that is the argument Republican candidates always try to make.

 

[chubigans]

Obama opposes a ban on partial birth abortions?

If that's true...ugh, how stupid and lame. I get the feeling I'll just sit out on this election day. :\

 

[Stoney Mason]

I'm glad Kathleen Parker has seen the light. She's written alot of trash in her day. Bay Buchanan witll always be a frothing shill.

There are a lot of women McCain could have picked if he wanted to go for experience and potential quality that could draw moderates and independents. Christine Todd Whitman wouldn't have fired up the base but she would have been a draw for the moderate crowd in the middle and potentially Hillary supporters.