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[Saint Gregory]

WHERE ARE THE CANDIDATES TODAY!?

JOHN MCCAIN : VA and NC (Traditionally both are Republican)

SARAH PALIN: VA (Traditionally is Republican)

 

[Barrett2]

But will people be able to vote for a black man at the polls? That's the question prople are concerned about.

IMO the Bradley Effect will only affect 2-3% of voters. I just don't think that many people are susceptible to change their votes while literally in the voting booth. The numbers have to get a lot closer before I will start worrying about that.

Also, with these megaton awesome Gallup numbers, you have to consider a competing trend of McCain turnout trending downward, because people don't want to waste time voting for a loser. IMO, these two factors will basically cancel each other out.

 

[tanod]

I'd like to introduce the "MLK" effect. This postulates that a large number of people will show up to vote to be a part of the movement so that they can look back on it 30 years from now and say "I voted for the first black President of the United States".

I hearken back to a recent Washington Post or NY Times survey that said "how does Barack Obama's blackness affect your vote in November"

9% more likely to vote for
6% less likely

The best the MLK effect does is potentially cancel out the racist vote.

 

[The Lamonster]

Ahh, hopium. Got somma that good shit today.

Take a big hit, use the carborator, and hold it in as long as you can. Make sure to cough it out, too, cuz that makes u even more fucked up.

 

[JCreasy]

I'd like to introduce the "MLK" effect. This postulates that a large number of people will show up to vote to be a part of the movement so that they can look back on it 30 years from now and say "I voted for the first black President of the United States".

wow, that post gave me chills.

good shit man. damn straight.

Obama/Biden 08!

 

[Cyan]

I'd like to introduce the "MLK" effect. This postulates that a large number of people will show up to vote to be a part of the movement so that they can look back on it 30 years from now and say "I voted for the first black President of the United States".

Haha, I've been saying this to all my friends.

 

[XxenobladerxX]

I can tell there's a lot of black people at this event,these people are fired up..

 

[tanod]

I can tell there's a lot of black people at this event,these people are fired up..

But are they ready to go?

 

[The Lamonster]

I'd like to introduce the "MLK" effect. This postulates that a large number of people will show up to vote to be a part of the movement so that they can look back on it 30 years from now and say "I voted for the first black President of the United States".

I've never even thought about that.

"I voted for the first black President of the United States" is some intense shit.

I've always thought about "I voted for Obama," but shit, the guy is going to make some serious history! My mom still talks fondly about the time she shook hands with Bobby Kennedy.

 

[artredis1980]

Real Clear Politics. Why has Obama gone from +7.6 to +6.8 in 2 days?


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

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[StoOgE]

Drudge still has his "Gallup numbers tightening" headline with a link to yesterdays numbers.

PWND!

 

[crowphoenix]

I've never even thought about that.

"I voted for the first black President of the United States" is some intense shit.

I've always thought about "I voted for Obama," but shit, the guy is going to make some serious history! My mom still talks fondly about the time she shook hands with Bobby Kennedy.

It'll be interesting to see how he's referred to by the media in the years to come should he win. Will he be president Obama or will he remain the first black president Obama?

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

I'd like to introduce the "MLK" effect. This postulates that a large number of people will show up to vote to be a part of the movement so that they can look back on it 30 years from now and say "I voted for the first black President of the United States".

What a shitty reason to vote.

 

[gcubed]

I'd like to put in my hat for the "Common Sense" effect.

Where it is that you take a look at enthusiasm among supporters. The higher the enthusiasm, the more likely they will come to vote no matter the outcome. Vice versa for lower enthusiasm. I think McCain has much more to lose for people not wanting to be bothered to come out to vote for a losing candidate because he has much lower enthusiasm numbers.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

As Halps says, ROADBLOCKED CABLE COVERAGE.

 

[seat]

Great numbers, but Obama's campaign should try its best not too look overly optimistic. I can't help but think in plenty of young voters staying at home, thinking that everything is done.

And like Bill Maher was saying other night, the more votes Obama gets, the more political capital he'll have to deliver the changes he's promising.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Real Clear Politics. Why has Obama gone from +7.6 to +6.8 in 2 days?


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

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Look at the graph closer. He bumps up and down every couple of days. It's called noise.

 

[so_awes]

Drudge still has his "Gallup numbers tightening" headline with a link to yesterdays numbers.

PWND!

can you email him the new gallup?

 

[mckmas8808]

Obama with a new economy deal. Nice.

 

[Saint Gregory]

But are they ready to go?

After what happened in Ohio last time the real question is how will they break through the voter suppression blockades.

 

[artredis1980]

New OHIO and PENNSYLVANIA numbers

Marist College Institute for Public Opinion


Ohio
961 registered voters, 771 likely voters, margin of error +/-3.5% for both

Likely voters with leaners: Obama 49, McCain 45
(9/11-15: Obama 47, McCain 45)

Registered voters: Obama 48, McCain 40
(9/11-15: Obama 44, McCain 44)

Pennsylvania
943 registered voters, 757 likely voters, margin of error +/-3.5% for both

Likely voters with leaners: Obama 53, McCain 41
(9/11-15: Obama 49, McCain 44)

Registered voters: Obama 49, McCain 40
(9/11-15: Obama 45, McCain 42)

 

[CharlieDigital]

What a shitty reason to vote.

It is, I don't deny that, but the Bradley Effect is also a shitty reason to NOT vote for him or to vote for McCain.

 

[StoOgE]

What a shitty reason to vote.

No its not. Voting for someone you believe in + the added historical implications is huge.

You dont think Obama being president says something good about America regardless of your political views. It shows how far we have come as a nation.

Now, if its the only reason you vote for the guy? Probably a dumb reason. But I could see it as a motivator for people who already want him to win to get to the polls vs staying at home.

 

[BobTheFork]

I've never even thought about that.

"I voted for the first black President of the United States" is some intense shit.

I've always thought about "I voted for Obama," but shit, the guy is going to make some serious history! My mom still talks fondly about the time she shook hands with Bobby Kennedy.

I had thought about it, but honestly I think that's something tons of people who didn't vote for Obama will say too. I don't consider the Bradely effect to be so much about race in this case, but simply people feeling to 'safe' about Obama's chances and not voting.

 

[Barrett2]

Drudge still has his "Gallup numbers tightening" headline with a link to yesterdays numbers.

PWND!

No time to update poll numbers when you have super-important ACORN & Ayers news to report.

 

[StoOgE]

New OHIO and PENNSYLVANIA numbers

Marist College Institute for Public Opinion


Ohio
961 registered voters, 771 likely voters, margin of error +/-3.5% for both

Likely voters with leaners: Obama 49, McCain 45
(9/11-15: Obama 47, McCain 45)

Registered voters: Obama 48, McCain 40
(9/11-15: Obama 44, McCain 44)

Pennsylvania
943 registered voters, 757 likely voters, margin of error +/-3.5% for both

Likely voters with leaners: Obama 53, McCain 41
(9/11-15: Obama 49, McCain 44)

Registered voters: Obama 49, McCain 40
(9/11-15: Obama 45, McCain 42)

OBAMA HAS THIS ON LOCKDOWN.

 

[Zoe]

What a shitty reason to vote.

Hey, it's better than "I voted for the first hockey mom VP."

 

[bob_arctor]

Obama with a new economy deal. Nice.

Yup. Icing. Cake.

 

[Saint Gregory]

Hey, why is Obama delivering McCain's new economic speech... oh wait.

 

[Nabs]

Obama is killing it right now. He looks like a president.

Hey, why is Obama delivering McCain's new economic speech... oh wait.

I'm cracking up right now.

 

[CharlieDigital]

No its not. Voting for someone you believe in + the added historical implications is huge.

You dont think Obama being president says something good about America regardless of your political views. It shows how far we have come as a nation.

Now, if its the only reason you vote for the guy? Probably a dumb reason. But I could see it as a motivator for people who already want him to win to get to the polls vs staying at home.

Right basically, what I was proposing was that people who were already in it for Obama will be more likely to actually vote this cycle because of the historical significance of it.

I don't think we have to worry about the "what if voters don't show up?" question because I think the MLK Effect will be in full play. Even if voters think that it's a safe win, people will still turn up to cast their votes for the historical significance.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Hey, why is Obama delivering McCain's new economic speech... oh wait.

:lol

 

[Barrett2]

What a shitty reason to vote.

No more shitty than most of the other nonsensical reasons I have heard people give for voting the way they do. At least it is a positive heuristic as opposed to a fear-mogering heuristic.

 

[The Lamonster]

What a shitty reason to vote.

getthefuckout.gif

 

[artredis1980]

Spread this

Image of McCain sitting in an ACORN Conference in March 2006 with Florida Rep Kendrick Meek

Bertha Lewis, Acorn's chief organizer, said in a statement that came with the photo, “It has deeply saddened us to see Senator McCain abandon his historic support for ACORN and our efforts to support the goals of low-income Americans."

”We are sure that the extremists he is trying to get into a froth will be even more excited to learn that John McCain stood shoulder to shoulder with ACORN, at an ACORN co-sponsored event, to promote immigration reform," she said.

 

[JCreasy]

No its not. Voting for someone you believe in + the added historical implications is huge.

You dont think Obama being president says something good about America regardless of your political views. It shows how far we have come as a nation.

Now, if its the only reason you vote for the guy? Probably a dumb reason. But I could see it as a motivator for people who already want him to win to get to the polls vs staying at home.

Exactly.

And again, people aren't blindly voting for Obama because he's black, which I know some would like to believe. If that were the case, Alan Keyes would have gotten a lot farther along than he did . . .

 

[Slurpy]

What a shitty reason to vote.

By itself, it may be. For me, its icing on the cake of all the other reasons I like Obama.

But ironically, even by itself, its still better reason to vote for him than anything Ive heard about why one should vote for McCain. I like to think about myself as a pragmatic and rational individual, and I actually have many conservative ideals- I just havent heard ONE RATIONAL reason for how McCain is possible a good choice right now.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Yup. Icing. Cake.

Love the timing, too. Over the weekend word was McCain was meeting with his advisers to roll out new economic proposals, and decided against it. Now Obama rolls out his...and McCain has nothing. Whoops!

Also: I overhead my co-workers talking about how Obama is going to increase their taxes on 401k when they retire. I poke my head around the corner and say, "Actually, he's not going to. That's not part of his plan and not something he would ever propose."

Response: "Whatever. You know he's going to."

Sigh.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Look at the graph closer. He bumps up and down every couple of days. It's called noise.

It's also called RCP randomly including and excluding polls with no rhyme or reason.

 

[The Lamonster]

Love the timing, too. Over the weekend word was McCain was meeting with his advisers to roll out new economic proposals, and decided against it. Now Obama rolls out his...and McCain has nothing. Whoops!

Also: I overhead my co-workers talking about how Obama is going to increase their taxes on 401k when they retire. I poke my head around the corner and say, "Actually, he's not going to. That's not part of his plan and not something he would ever propose."

Response: "Whatever. You know he's going to."

Sigh.

People like that aren't going to vote for Obama either way. You knew that

 

[BobTheFork]

Spread this

So simple, so easy, so damned funny. At this point McCain is basically cutting off is own legs to try and lighten the load enough to catch Barrack.

 

[JCreasy]

Love the timing, too. Over the weekend word was McCain was meeting with his advisers to roll out new economic proposals, and decided against it. Now Obama rolls out his...and McCain has nothing. Whoops!

Also: I overhead my co-workers talking about how Obama is going to increase their taxes on 401k when they retire. I poke my head around the corner and say, "Actually, he's not going to. That's not part of his plan and not something he would ever propose."

Response: "Whatever. You know he's going to."

Sigh.

Ask them to tell you why they believe this.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Obama's tearing it up.

 

[Saint Gregory]

Spread this

Image of McCain sitting in an ACORN Conference in March 2006 with Florida Rep Kendrick Meek

:lol :lol :lol

I guess the next photo will be McCain playing golf with Bill Ayers. The McCain camp will have an excuse for that too though :lol

 

[Particle Physicist]

What a shitty reason to vote.

yeah. voting for mccain because obama is black is a much better reason!

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

yeah. voting for mccain because obama is black is a much better reason!

It's on the same level of stupidity for voting.

 

[JCreasy]

Spread this

Image of McCain sitting in an ACORN Conference in March 2006 with Florida Rep Kendrick Meek

Beautiful

Where did you get this?

 

[soul creator]

Only 130 million I was hoping for 145-155 million to be honest. Come on America you can do better than that.

No we can't!

 

[CharlieDigital]

:lol :lol :lol

I guess the next photo will be McCain playing golf with Bill Ayers. The McCain camp will have an excuse for that too though :lol

"McCain was clearly there to shut down their shenanigans like only a Mavrick could!"

 

[StoOgE]

Guys, I think I just OD'd on Hopium.. Its like that scene from Being John Malkovich, except everyone looks like Obama and keeps trying to give me daps.