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[XxenobladerxX]

This is the type of argument Obama fans use all the time. Just STFU, it doesnt make what Obama said any less arrogant.

Take your own advice,jackass.

 

[AniHawk]

This is the type of argument Obama fans use all the time. Just STFU, it doesnt make what Obama said any less arrogant.

Okay, so the Clintons are elitist then. I accept your apology.

 

[APF]

If Obama was an elitist,then he would of never helped those people in ILL.

This is a weak argument. People enter into public service for many reasons, and have many different types of temperaments. What you imply here is, no one who is a successful public servant can be considered "elitist," which I feel is a pretty sheltered or at least naive assumption.

In any case, even if you need to assert he isn't actually of that temperament, it does not mean this angle won't continue to plague him in the GE.

 

[reilo]

This is the type of argument Obama fans use all the time. Just STFU, it doesnt make what Obama said any less arrogant.

Man, back off already. I asked APF a question, and APF ONLY. I asked him if he thought Obama was elitist, and then I asked him if the Clintons were elitist. It was just me trying to understand his thought process.

Where did I rag on APF with those two questions? Nowhere. Go away.

 

[Tamanon]

This is the type of argument Obama fans use all the time. Just STFU, it doesnt make what Obama said any less arrogant.

Good lord, this is how you make your presence known again.

 

[typhonsentra]

I always forget, which one is the atheist, Siamese or APF?

As for Barack, he's been saying some stupid shit lately and he deserves to get beat up for it the same as his "Typical White Person" comment. I still support the guy but he has a way of putting his foot in his mouth. He isn't McCain, he can't expect to let the media just ignore it the way they constantly do for him.

 

[VPhys]

I don't know why Obama continues to do these impromptu interviews. He is winning!

His comments today were like live bait. They were stupid not in context but from a strategic standpoint.

 

[XxenobladerxX]

I always forget, which one is the atheist, Siamese or APF?

As for Barack, he's been saying some stupid shit lately and he deserves to get beat up for it the same as his "Typical White Person" comment. I still support the guy but he has a way of putting his foot in his mouth. He isn't McCain, he can't expect to let the media just ignore it the way they constantly do for him.

So telling the cold hard truth these days are painted as "saying stupid shit"? I do agree that he shouldn't have said the "bitter". Angry would have been a better way to say it.

 

[GaimeGuy]

wait are people calling obama arrogant now because instead of pandering to the Penn population with bullshit like "We can restore those jobs and make things just like they were 10 years ago," he actually said something along the lines of "You know, it's unfortunate that those jobs were lost, but the anger and hate needs to subside, and people need to look towards heading a new direction instead of regaining their former jobs that have no chance of coming back"

He used to be attacked for being too idealistic and too much of a hopemonger. Now he's being painted as arrogant because he was being realistic with regards to the job market in Pennsylvania?

Give me a fucking break you guys.

 

[VPhys]

I always forget, which one is the atheist, Siamese or APF?

As for Barack, he's been saying some stupid shit lately and he deserves to get beat up for it the same as his "Typical White Person" comment. I still support the guy but he has a way of putting his foot in his mouth. He isn't McCain, he can't expect to let the media just ignore it the way they constantly do for him.

I don't feel the same about the "typical white person" comment.

But KNOWING the backlash from that comment, HOW could he say what he did today? THAT was stupid.

Barack deserves everything he gets from this. How he is constantly fucking up makes ME bitter.

 

[GaimeGuy]

I don't feel the same about the "typical white person" comment.

But KNOWING the backlash from that comment, HOW could he say what he did today? THAT was stupid.

Barack deserves everything he gets from this. How he is constantly fucking up makes ME bitter.

He deserves to be punished for saying something that can be used in this silly game that is American politics to show him in a negative light?

How about speaking the truth, rather than playing the politics game?

 

[XxenobladerxX]

:lol :lol



This country and its politics are really backward some times.

 

[harSon]

Are people defending Pennsylvania? News flash from someone who lived there, the state is a shit hole :lol

As for the comments, in context they're not bad at all. A spotty way of wording but nothing horrible none the less.

 

[schuelma]

wait are people calling obama arrogant now because instead of pandering to the Penn population with bullshit like "We can restore those jobs and make things just like they were 10 years ago," he actually said something along the lines of "You know, it's unfortunate that those jobs were lost, but the anger and hate needs to subside, and people need to look towards heading a new direction instead of regaining their former jobs that have no chance of coming back"

He used to be attacked for being too idealistic and too much of a hopemonger. Now he's being painted as arrogant because he was being realistic with regards to the job market in Pennsylvania?

Give me a fucking break you guys.

Err...he did PLENTY of pandering to these people in Ohio. Plenty.

These remarks were made to wealthy fundraisers.

 

[VPhys]

He deserves to be punished for saying something that can be used in this silly game that is American politics to show him in a negative light?

How about speaking the truth, rather than playing the politics game?

If he was someone sheltered from American politics his whole life and didn't know his comments would be taken out of context, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

But he knows the rules of the game, and while I appreciate he wants to change those rules, he's not elected yet. What he said today was just careless.

 

[GaimeGuy]

If he was someone sheltered from American politics his whole life and didn't know his comments would be taken out of context, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

But he knows the rules of the game, and while I appreciate he wants to change those rules, he's not elected yet. What he said today was just careless.

Fuck the game. I don't give a shit if Karl Rove doesn't approve of his comments. I don't want a game. I want a president.

 

[schuelma]

Fuck the game. I don't give a shit if Karl Rove doesn't approve of his comments. I don't want a game. I want a president.

First, let me say that I think generally Obama has run a very respectful campaign and I think he is sincere in his wish to change the tone of Washington.

That said, him and his people have played this "game" just like McCain and Clinton have. Stop pretending your guy hasn't done the same exact thing.

 

[schuelma]

I don't feel the same about the "typical white person" comment.

But KNOWING the backlash from that comment, HOW could he say what he did today? THAT was stupid.

Barack deserves everything he gets from this. How he is constantly fucking up makes ME bitter.

Well it was made at a fundraiser and I really doubt he thought his remarks would get out.

Still very stupid of him. Very dumb.

The only saving grace is this hitting on a Friday.

 

[XxenobladerxX]

CNN is now calling the remark "a political attack on small town america"




Fuck the media.

 

[Xeke]

As a Pennsylvania resident for 20 years I fully agree with what he said. I don't know where some of you are getting arrogant from.

I lived most of my life in small town America...

 

[Tamanon]

Sounds like it's time for a major speech on the impact of division on the middle-class.

 

[Door2Dawn]

I hope Obama can elaborate on the statement a little bit more. This country is full on knuckle heads.

 

[maximum360]

CNN is now calling the remark "a political attack on small town america"




Fuck the media.

Did you expect any less from CNN? He already has the disdain of some of the hosts and others are more interested in prolonging the primaries so it's just natural to them. That being said, Obama's off-the-cuff remarks do more damage to himself than anything else. He came right back after the Wright issue with a great speech, only to have his image tarnished the next day by the "typical white person" comment. The comment about teenager girls being punished by a baby and now this. Soundbites are not his friend.

I think this is just part of growing "presidential" pains for him. He has to be more careful with what he says because people can't wait to grab a soundbite out of context and use it against him. Or he needs to explain the comment immediately after and/or some way publicly.

 

[Tamanon]

Did you expect any less from CNN? He already has the disdain of some of the hosts and others are more interested in prolonging the primaries so it's just natural to them. That being said, Obama's off-the-cuff remarks do more damage to himself than anything else. He came right back after the Wright issue with a great speech, only to have his image tarnished the next day by the "typical white person" comment. The comment about teenager girls being punished by a baby and now this. Soundbites are not his friend.

I think this is just part of growing "presidential" pains for him. He has to be more careful with what he says because people can't wait to grab a soundbite out of context and use it against him. Or he needs to explain the comment immediately after and/or some way publicly.

He's learning that you can't speak plainly about many things, because people are used to ideas being couched in conditionals and metaphors instead.

 

[shinsnake]

Wait, Obama insults middle America's religious beliefs, belief in gun rights, and belief in secure borders, and people are arguing whether or not he should have said bitter? LOL, what the fuck is wrong with you Obama supporters?

 

[shinsnake]

He's learning that you can't speak plainly about many things, because people are used to ideas being couched in conditionals and metaphors instead.

Perhaps he should just learn to speak less. It seems that speaking is not his strong suit. :lol

 

[Tamanon]

Wait, Obama insults middle America's religious beliefs, belief in gun rights, and belief in secure borders, and people are arguing whether or not he should have said bitter? LOL, what the fuck is wrong with you Obama supporters?

Where did he insult any of those three?

 

[reilo]

Whichever deaf-mute runs as president, they will definitely win.

 

[Macam]

weekend news show topic found!

That about sums the last month. If I have to endure one more Meet the Press with a pair of surrogates and a bunch of worthless "gotcha" quotes....well, I'll find better things to do with my time. I just wish Russert would do the same.

 

[KRS7]

This will likely be the big story this weekend. It was politically a poor choice of words for Obama, even though I agree with his sentiments. He was saying that many of these residents are bitter about government and politics, which in my experience is absolutely true. But it is being spun as if he were calling them bitter people.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

I hope Obama can elaborate on the statement a little bit more. This country is full on knuckle heads.

And media seeking ratings.

 

[Shiggie]

Wait, Obama insults middle America's religious beliefs, belief in gun rights, and belief in secure borders, and people are arguing whether or not he should have said bitter? LOL, what the fuck is wrong with you Obama supporters?

Readingcomprehensionmuchtardface.
and to add, its exactly what he said in his speech only less eloquent.

 

[reilo]

So, Obama, a christian, insulted middle-America's religion of choice, christianity?

Bravo.

 

[Tamanon]

So, Obama, a christian, insulted middle-America's religion of choice, christianity?

Bravo.

He's one of them self-hating Christians.

 

[Shiggie]

So, Obama, a christian, insulted middle-America's religion of choice, christianity?

Bravo.

where did he say this??

 

[reilo]

He's one of them self-hating Christians.

Actually, it probably just confirms that he's a muslim.

where did he say this??

Wait, Obama insults middle America's religious beliefs,

 

[CoolTrick]

Wait, Obama insults middle America's religious beliefs, belief in gun rights, and belief in secure borders, and people are arguing whether or not he should have said bitter? LOL, what the fuck is wrong with you Obama supporters?

That's because they defend everything he does. And then try to turn the question on Hillary.

 

[Door2Dawn]

Wait, Obama insults middle America's religious beliefs, belief in gun rights, and belief in secure borders, and people are arguing whether or not he should have said bitter? LOL, what the fuck is wrong with you Obama supporters?

lolwut

 

[Shiggie]

He's one of them self-hating Christians.

:lol

 

[Tamanon]

That's because they defend everything he does. And then try to turn the question on Hillary.

Dude, we're not even talking about Hillary here. Although, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever heard you talk about her in a positive light either.

 

[Door2Dawn]

I also liked Hillary's dick riding response. Very smart move.

 

[Lemonz]

Obama town hall right now.


http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream1

 

[Star Power]

Man, I'm done with this bullshit until November. This is such a non-story, what he said is so obviously being distorted and misconstrued.. but since it's being done to Obama is alright I guess? I've spoken out when McCain's "100 years" comment was distorted, when Rev Wright's comments were distorted, when Bill Clinton's comments were distorted.. and this is just another one of those distortions. Are people really incapable of nuanced views on things? Of a bit of hard truth? No wonder Romney won the Michigan primary with his despicable pandering...


I agree with APF that Obama's percieved "arrogance" and "entitlement" will be an issue should he be the nominee, though I think it's a totally bullshit angle and an excuse many people will use just to vote against him

 

[Door2Dawn]

EXCELLENT response.

 

[schuelma]

Man, I'm done with this bullshit until November. This is such a non-story, what he said is so obviously being distorted and misconstrued.. but since it's being done to Obama is alright I guess? I've spoken out when McCain's "100 years" comment was distorted, when Rev Wright's comments were distorted, when Bill Clinton's comments were distorted.. and this is just another one of those distortions. Are people really incapable of nuanced views on things? Of a bit of hard truth? No wonder Romney won the Michigan primary with his despicable pandering...


I agree with APF that Obama's percieved "arrogance" and "entitlement" will be an issue should he be the nominee, though I think it's a totally bullshit angle and an excuse many people will use just to vote against him

Welcome to politics, sadly

Speaking of that Michigan primary- McCain was crucified because he had the nerve to tell the truth (i.e, Michigan needs to adjust to the economy, jobs are going to be lost)

 

[Lemonz]

Obama's kickin' ass.

 

[Xeke]

That's because they defend everything he does. And then try to turn the question on Hillary.

And then your butt plug falls out and you just spew shit everywhere. It's hard to watch.

Your posts are no less bias than any Obama supporter and yet you still somehow act like you're better.

Watching you post is like watching a mangled squirrel slowly die as he tries to get off the road after being hit by a car driven by Obama.

When I try to imagine what you look like and what you do with your life I always fail to come up with an image that works.

 

[Star Power]

That's because they defend everything he does. And then try to turn the question on Hillary.

You are such a one-trick pony. A lot of the Obama supporters here, myself included, are wuick to diagree with any position he takes and acknowledge when he makes a mistake or is being hypocritical. It is you and the other posters like you that take ever little non-story and ever poorly-worded statement and blow it out of proportion/intentionally distort the meaning, and then bitch about how Obama supporters are sheep when they call you out on your bullshit.

 

[AniHawk]

Why the fuck does the stream connect for half a second and then disconnect? Too many people?

 

[VPhys]

Where did he insult any of those three?

That's how it will be interpreted.