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PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (DAWN OF THE VEEP)

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Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
whoa...this phrase blew my mind...

VAUGHN
Because you're fucking following me,
you've been fucking following me,
and I don't like it when people
fucking follow me. Now why the fuck
are you following me?
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TDG

Banned
EviLore said:
I emailed the Daily Kos guy:
Well, that was boring. Not even worth making a thread.
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:lol What a moron. He stands by his original point. Great to hear.

I've never been a big fan of DailyKos. I don't read their slanted shit just as I don't read right-wing blogs. Drudge and HuffPo are the only ones I can stand.

So, guys, since we're now so famous for our anti-Obama smears... wow that crazy muslim is trying to take over the world. I won't stand for it, will you, my fellow republicans?
 
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Father_Brain

Banned
McCain in 2004:

Question: "What would or should we do if, in the post-June 30th period, a so-called sovereign Iraqi government asks us to leave, even if we are unhappy about the security situation there?"

McCain's Answer: "Well, if that scenario evolves than I think it's obvious that we would have to leave because -- if it was an elected government of Iraq, and we've been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government then I think we would have other challenges, but I don't see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people."
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Wonder how he'd spin this today?
 
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bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
Clevinger said:
He'd do the same thing he always does when he faces a contradiction with a previous statement; deny he ever said it.
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Or simply attribute Iraq's request to the success afforded them by the surge, claim we've won and say "Of course we'll comply!".
 
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speculawyer

Member
**Conspiracy theory alert**

I've been kinda wondering if people in the Iraq government are trying to influence our election? . . . by insisting on withdrawal of US troops, that kinda takes the whole Iraq situation out as an issue for our election. And that is one of the few areas where some people seem to think McCain has an advantage (although I don't understand why). Are there pro-Obama factions in the Iraq government trying to make things difficult for McCain? If the the Iraqis want us out and the American people want us out . . . what is the point of staying?
Helping US oil interests isn't a legit answer.

Iraq insists on withdrawal timetable
By SALLY BUZBEE – 2 hours ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraq's national security adviser said Tuesday his country will not accept any security deal with the United States unless it contains specific dates for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces.

The comments by Mouwaffak al-Rubaie were the strongest yet by an Iraqi official about the deal now under negotiation with U.S. officials. They came a day after Iraq's prime minister first said publicly that he expects the pending troop deal with the United States to have some type of timetable for withdrawal.
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ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
speculawyer said:
**Conspiracy theory alert**

I've been kinda wondering if people in the Iraq government are trying to influence our election? . . . by insisting on withdrawal of US troops, that kinda takes the whole Iraq situation out as an issue for our election. And that is one of the few areas where some people seem to think McCain has an advantage (although I don't understand why). Are there pro-Obama factions in the Iraq government trying to make things difficult for McCain? If the the Iraqis want us out and the American people want us out . . . what is the point of staying?
Helping US oil interests isn't a legit answer.
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Or maybe, I dunno, they just don't want us to be there anymore. We aren't exactly popular in Iraq, and a democratic government should follow the will of its people.
 
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RyanDG

Member
As a side note - when I went to the Daily Kos site to read the article, I saw an ad for a company selling anti-Obama merchandise on the right hand side...

'No to Osama Obama
Buy Your Anti Obama Gear Here Tees, Stickers, Yard Signs & More
www.CafePress.com'

Here's a few choice designs:
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/17085209
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/26447774
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/25185243
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/16610025
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/25935642

Now what's this Larry guy bitching about again?
 
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speculawyer

Member
ZealousD said:
Or maybe, I dunno, they just don't want us to be there anymore. We aren't exactly popular in Iraq, and a democratic government should follow the will of its people.
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I agree that the Iraqi people want us out. But the people in the government often want us to stick around if for no other reason than to protect their asses. Perhaps they are gaining some confidence in their domestic forces?
 
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Tamanon

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speculawyer said:
**Conspiracy theory alert**

I've been kinda wondering if people in the Iraq government are trying to influence our election? . . . by insisting on withdrawal of US troops, that kinda takes the whole Iraq situation out as an issue for our election. And that is one of the few areas where some people seem to think McCain has an advantage (although I don't understand why). Are there pro-Obama factions in the Iraq government trying to make things difficult for McCain? If the the Iraqis want us out and the American people want us out . . . what is the point of staying?
Helping US oil interests isn't a legit answer.
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I wouldn't go that far, I'd say it's more to do with the Bush admin pushing for a long-term extension of the occupation since the UN order expires. This is their way of pushing back and showing independence. The last thing they want is to be seen as eternally a US lapdog, that hasn't helped Israel's image at all.
 
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Amir0x

Banned
RyanDG said:
As a side note - when I went to the Daily Kos site to read the article, I saw an ad for a company selling anti-Obama merchandise on the right hand side...

'No to Osama Obama
Buy Your Anti Obama Gear Here Tees, Stickers, Yard Signs & More
www.CafePress.com'

Here's a few choice designs:
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/17085209
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/26447774
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/25185243
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/16610025
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/25935642

Now what's this Larry guy bitching about again?
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YOU SHOULD HAVE SCREENCAPPED IT
 
MaddenNFL64

MaddenNFL64

Member
I hate the switch that always happens after a primary. The idealistic shit gets thrown out, and back to centrist politics which is fucking boring.

I got caught up in the "he's gonna change the world" bullshit. His rhetoric is so powerful sometimes. But shit left wing idealists will never win elections, and so Obama it is.
 
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Tamanon

Banned
MaddenNFL64 said:
I hate the switch that always happens after a primary. The idealistic shit gets thrown out, and back to centrist politics which is fucking boring.

I got caught up in the "he's gonna change the world" bullshit. His rhetoric is so powerful sometimes. But shit left wing idealists will never win elections, and so Obama it is.
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I dunno, I prefer the general because you don't spend 20 minutes in a debate kvetching about the minor differences in healthcare plans.:lol
 
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GhaleonEB

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Here's how the administration responded to the timetable yesterday. First, they call the timetable "artificial". Then they question whether al-Malki actually asked for one. :lol

President Bush has long maintained that if the Iraqi government wants the U.S. to leave Iraq, then the U.S. would do just that, as he said in May 2007:

We are there at the invitation of the Iraqi government. This is a sovereign nation. Twelve million people went to the polls to approve a constitution. It’s their government’s choice. If they were to say, leave, we would leave.
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Today, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki suggested having a timetable for the withdrawal of coalition troops. “The direction we are taking is to have a memorandum of understanding either for the departure of the forces or to have a timetable for their withdrawal,” Maliki’s office quoted him as saying.

But the administration has rebuffed Maliki’s request for a timeline. Asked about the prime minister’s comments today, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman hedged on whether the administration would follow the Iraqi government’s request, criticizing timelines as “artificial“:

WHITMAN: t is dependent on conditions on the ground. … But timelines tend to be artificial in nature. In a situation where things are as dynamic as they are in Iraq, I would just tell you, it’s usually best to look at these things based on conditions on the ground.
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The State Department also hedged on whether the Bush administration would listen to Maliki. In a briefing today, spokesperson Sean McCormack said the remark may have been a transcription error:

McCORMACK: Well, that’s really the part — the point at which I would seek greater clarification in terms of remarks. I’ve seen the same press reports that you have, but I haven’t yet had an opportunity to get greater clarify as to exactly to what Mr. Maliki was referring or if, in fact, that’s an accurate reporting of what he said.
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As multiple press accounts – as well as Maliki’s office — have indicated, Maliki did indeed suggest a timeline for withdrawal in negotiating a security agreement with the United States.
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http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/07/maliki-timeline/
 
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RyanDG

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Amir0x said:
YOU SHOULD HAVE SCREENCAPPED IT
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I do have it screen capped. I can e-mail it to someone now if they want, but otherwise I'll have to wait to post it when I get home since I'm on my work computer and can't upload it to a file host.
 
Keylime

Keylime

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RyanDG said:
I do have it screen capped. I can e-mail it to someone now if they want, but otherwise I'll have to wait to post it when I get home since I'm on my work computer and can't upload it to a file host.
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Send it my way!

Check your PMs for the address.
 
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Tamanon

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He was loose and extremely funny at times. For instance, in a chat about how important it is to stay in school, he said something like, "look, without an education, your only shot to succeed big time is becoming a pro basketball player. And let me tell my brothers up here in front, you may be good enough in your own mind, but you’re not getting into the NBA. Also, you’re probably not gonna make it as a rapper either." I’d say the crowd was about 75% African American, so these lines went over well
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From someone's description of today's town hall.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/8/133450/3878/943/548255

:lol That is a pretty good line though.
 
Keylime

Keylime

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RyanDG said:
Sent!
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Ownage presented. Nice find :p

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MaddenNFL64

MaddenNFL64

Member
Tamanon said:
I dunno, I prefer the general because you don't spend 20 minutes in a debate kvetching about the minor differences in healthcare plans.:lol
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:lol yea everyones offering the same thing, but with a different caveat. Oh the battles Clinton & Obama had over their insignificant differences in health care, and foreign affairs.

But now it's time to win over the fence sitters. Hope Obama pulls it off.
 
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ronito

Member
speculawyer said:
Most pointless poll I've seen so far:

Pet owners prefer McCain over Obama

1) Who the fuck cares?

2) It is a pretty fucking obvious considering rural people are more likely to have pets since they don't live in tiny urban apartments/condos/co-ops/etc.

BTW, my dog told me to vote Obama.
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Simple really. People who are likely to have a creature they feed substandard food to, make obey their commands, and will hit at the slightest provocation are already republicans AMIRITE?
 
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Triumph

Banned
Tamanon said:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/8/102438/5512/285/547896

Get your wackos in line, sir!
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Whatever, been too busy playing Etrian Odyssey II, editing commercials and being generally unimpressed with Obama's general campaign to care. Although I will say it looks like his campaign is succeeding with his target audience: moderates and undecideds, so I guess who cares what I think? Would have liked to see him grow a pair over FISA but whatever.

Back to EOII!
 
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soul creator

Member
PhoenixDark said:
Damn, a missed opportunity to drop some Biggie rhymes. Come on Obama: the streets is a short stop/Either you're slingin crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot
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at my arraignment, screaming
all these blacks got is sports and entertainment, until we even

jay-z
 
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reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Will I get banned for insulting Larry Madill?

After all, me being the 13-year old college educated nerd that does nothing but argue about X360 versus PS3 that lives out in some basement and in no way pays for his own stuff feels a bit insulted.

Hey, Larry, word of advice: How about you actually read these PoliGAF threads, and you might actually come away with an opinion that completely, and utterly contradicts that idiotic smear piece you wrote, yea?
 
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bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
GhaleonEB said:
Here's how the administration responded to the timetable yesterday. First, they call the timetable "artificial". Then they question whether al-Malki actually asked for one. :lol


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/07/maliki-timeline/
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Amazing.

I’ve seen the same press reports that you have, but I haven’t yet had an opportunity to get greater clarify as to exactly to what Mr. Maliki was referring or if, in fact, that’s an accurate reporting of what he said.
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*shakes head* Is anyone going to keep pressing this in the media?
 
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Tamanon

Banned
"Hey, we're only there because the Iraqis want us there, if they tell us to leave, we'll leave."

"Hey, we want you to leave."

"I'm sorry, I don't speak your foreign language, did you just say 'stay the course'?"
 
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bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
Tamanon said:
"Hey, we're only there because the Iraqis want us there, if they tell us to leave, we'll leave."

"Hey, we want you to leave."

"I'm sorry, I don't speak your foreign language, did you just say 'stay the course'?"
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"But man, did you hear what Ahmadenijad said about Israel??"
 
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bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
LINK

BAGHDAD - Iraq's national security adviser said Tuesday his country will not accept any security deal with the United States unless it contains specific dates for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces.
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"Our stance in the negotiations underway with the American side will be strong ... We will not accept any memorandum of understanding that doesn't have specific dates to withdraw foreign forces from Iraq," al-Rubaie said.
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He provided no details. But Ali al-Adeeb, a Shiite lawmaker and a prominent official in the prime minister's party, told The Associated Press that Iraq was linking the timetable proposal to the ongoing handover of various provinces to Iraqi control.
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The Iraqi proposal stipulates that, once Iraqi forces have resumed security responsibility in all 18 of Iraq's provinces, U.S.-led forces would then withdraw from all cities in the country.
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After that, the country's security situation would be reviewed every six months, for three to five years, to decide when U.S.-led troops would pull out entirely, al-Adeeb said.
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mckmas8808

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Tamanon said:
"Hey, we're only there because the Iraqis want us there, if they tell us to leave, we'll leave."

"Hey, we want you to leave."

"I'm sorry, I don't speak your foreign language, did you just say 'stay the course'?"
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So is this being repeated in the media as a possible neagtive for McCain? Is anybody talking about it today?
 
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