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PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (DAWN OF THE VEEP)
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Smiles and Cries
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thanks for the updates
Learn2read
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I'm wary of the left's mancrush on Chuck Hagel. While he may be the maverick that the media pretends McCain is, apart from being sensible about the war, basically all of his positions are pretty hardcore conservative. I can't even believe people are seriously talking about him being VP.Incognito said:
Father_Brain
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.mamacint said:
Frank the Great
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mamacint said:
His excellent foreign policy decisions, and his willingness to go against the grain for what is right instead of doing everything for political decisions are both very good reasons why he would make a great Secretary of Defense.
He will never be VP though, because a cross-party ticket would basically result in the Dems sacrificing the White House after Obama's two terms, if he is a popular President.
The Lamonster
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Anyone else fear the CIA will attempt to assassinate Obama to prevent his trip and speech in Germany? I know it sounds like something coming from Lefty420, but still, if somebody is going to put a hit out on Obama, besides the KKK, it would probably be the Bush administration 
reference: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11675.html
reference: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11675.html
The Lamonster
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good post.Odrion said:
So what if the next 'dumb twat' was actually Obama himself and you assassinated him? Would that create a paradox rift in space and time?
No seriously, the whole unsupported and preemptive idea that Obama will be killed by our own government is absurd and out of touch with reality. Every time someone spouts this idea it makes the liberals on this board look even worse and pushes further the idea that they have a martyr complex.
Frank the Great
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Odrion said:
But...but...
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he's black!
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25641109/
They aren't even trying to hide the fucking bullshit and criminal acts anymore.
PhoenixDark
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mamacint said:
you mean like liebermann, who's liberal on nearly everything except the war/foreign policy? :0
TheClimaxan
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reilo said:
It almost seems like they are trying to see how much shit they can pack into the last 6 months and get away with. There's this, then Rove avoiding testimony, Cheney censoring the EPA report. Hell that's just from this week!
Jason's Ultimatum
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mamacint said:
Not to mention the fact that Hagel voted for the war and was even against the surge. The Republicans would tear him apart.
Wolffe: "I'm surprised that this Steelers issue has barely been talked about and only as a byline, and primarily covered by the blogites out there."
Surprised? Are you really?
None of us are.
BTW, McCain has the worst week of any presidential candidate this year, and according to the media, it's Obama that is in trouble because he only has a 6-8pt lead.
Mark Halprin said that McCain has won the week.
EDIT: :lol at Olbermann being a guest on his own show. Probably means he's coming back Monday.
Surprised? Are you really?
None of us are.
BTW, McCain has the worst week of any presidential candidate this year, and according to the media, it's Obama that is in trouble because he only has a 6-8pt lead.
Mark Halprin said that McCain has won the week.
EDIT: :lol at Olbermann being a guest on his own show. Probably means he's coming back Monday.
Jason's Ultimatum
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I love how the right wing pundits keep saying Obama will raise everyone's taxes. Personally, I'm glad Obama has been on the offense when it comes to his tax policies. I can't wait for the first debate to happen when the subject is brought up.
Rachel actually said the "Dr Phil" joke was lame? Really?
And I don't agree with the whole "Obama should be hammering this quote immediately and often" bit she's going through. it's only day 2 after the quote. Hammering it in speeches won't get any more publicity, it'll just replace other segments on it. You hammer a few days later to keep the story alive
And I don't agree with the whole "Obama should be hammering this quote immediately and often" bit she's going through. it's only day 2 after the quote. Hammering it in speeches won't get any more publicity, it'll just replace other segments on it. You hammer a few days later to keep the story alive
Jason's Ultimatum
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GhaleonEB said:
But wait! O Reilly says Newsweek is librul!
Kitschkraft
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Man do I hope these Steelers and "Whining" comments explode.
The Steelers thing can be compared to Hillary and Bosnia, if the media makes that connection, it's going to be rough for McCain to get out of it. He can do the "I forgot" thing, but that really only brings out how fucking old he is.
The whining comments are golden, the guy practically gave Obama his "bitter" comments back.
With our luck though, the stories will be forgotten in a few days.....
The Steelers thing can be compared to Hillary and Bosnia, if the media makes that connection, it's going to be rough for McCain to get out of it. He can do the "I forgot" thing, but that really only brings out how fucking old he is.
The whining comments are golden, the guy practically gave Obama his "bitter" comments back.
With our luck though, the stories will be forgotten in a few days.....
Lv99 Slacker
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worst.interview.ever (talking about the convo between Rachel & Keith)
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Both stories have already been forgotten it seems.
Look on politico.
No mention of McCain's mishaps over the past week.
The only story near the top is "Do Economists Support McCain?"
Right next to it?
"The abortion minefield. Obama takes hits from both sides."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11654.html
Non-story made into a story.
Top story on CNN's political page?
Yeah, great reporting there.
He probably wanted the team to be the Steelers, because there are more Steelers fans outside of their home city and state than any other Football team in the country, IIRC. So it connects with knuckleheads across the nation instead of just a couple states! :lol
Anyway, watching this Clinton thing on CNN. It's uh, interesting?
Anyway, watching this Clinton thing on CNN. It's uh, interesting?
Your hearing is just fine.Diablos said:
And Ben Smith came back from vacation and declared, after reading the press reports he missed, that McCain was unlucky this week and Obama had lots of good luck with the media.
twinturbo2
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Obama thinking about sponsoring a NASCAR team, and all he could come up with was a Z-list team? Was Hendrick not returning his calls?
artredis1980
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I am hearing that Chuck Hagel is being Vetted for the VP slot and Obama is deadly serious about it
Chuck Hagel fought in the jungles of vietnam, is conservative on alot of issues but has voted with the Democrats on a number of issues. He is the last remaining voices of the centrist people in the Republican Party and Obama considers him to be a vital candidate for VP because he will attract white voters, the non-evangelical moderate republicans and independents who are they key to winning Obama the election. Obama himself has sought to portray himself as a moderate giving Republicans less amunition. Many believe that Obama's yes vote on FISA saved his presidency because of the Republican record of bringing down democrats on security issues.
Chuck Hagel fought in the jungles of vietnam, is conservative on alot of issues but has voted with the Democrats on a number of issues. He is the last remaining voices of the centrist people in the Republican Party and Obama considers him to be a vital candidate for VP because he will attract white voters, the non-evangelical moderate republicans and independents who are they key to winning Obama the election. Obama himself has sought to portray himself as a moderate giving Republicans less amunition. Many believe that Obama's yes vote on FISA saved his presidency because of the Republican record of bringing down democrats on security issues.
mamacint said:
Yeah, it's insane to think of him as a VP candidate. He's pretty standard Republican on domestic policy.
But his FP approach is better than a lot of Democrats. He spoke out against the Israeli campaign in Lebanon a couple years ago when the Democratic candidates mostly just gave their unconditional support.
Maybe that's a function of them wanting to be president while he knew he was retiring, but still.
Okay I may have been more meaner than I should have, I do like Lamonster's posts, but talking about presidential candidates being killed is like thousands of nails clawing away on a chalkboard to me. It's an inappropriate topic that gets mentioned much more than it should.Odrion said:
Been a while since we've seriously talked Veepstakes (Hagel lol). Buzz has it this man is now the front-runner:
Your thoughts, PoliGAF? Personally I like him. I think Kaine is actually more likely to deliver Virginia than Webb (I would have preferred Warner, but the Dems need him in the Senate), and he reportedly has a good relationship with Obama. Downsides are his somewhat anti-choice views and his lack of foreign policy credentials. Republicans also tried to paint him off as soft on crime/anti-capital punishment when he was running for governor, but that backfired.
I honestly think Kaine is going to be it now. If not, possibly Bayh or (longshot) Sebelius. Can't see it being Dodd. Pretty much all of the other prospects have declined or been ruled out at this point.
Your thoughts, PoliGAF? Personally I like him. I think Kaine is actually more likely to deliver Virginia than Webb (I would have preferred Warner, but the Dems need him in the Senate), and he reportedly has a good relationship with Obama. Downsides are his somewhat anti-choice views and his lack of foreign policy credentials. Republicans also tried to paint him off as soft on crime/anti-capital punishment when he was running for governor, but that backfired.
I honestly think Kaine is going to be it now. If not, possibly Bayh or (longshot) Sebelius. Can't see it being Dodd. Pretty much all of the other prospects have declined or been ruled out at this point.
ToyMachine228
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I personally still want to see Sebelius as VP, but I think Richardson is a lock for the administration along with Joe Biden. And maybe Hillary for the first Supreme Court appointment.
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Kaine's haircut is creepy, but other than that, he's my pick provided, of course, he can help pick up Virginia.
There have got to be more qualified women to fill in for Ginsburg. Really.
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There have got to be more qualified women to fill in for Ginsburg. Really.
Frank the Great
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I would be happy with:
Kaine
Sebelius
Richardson
Edwards
Biden
This is basically the short list, so I am a happy camper.
Kaine
Sebelius
Richardson
Edwards
Biden
This is basically the short list, so I am a happy camper.
PhoenixDark
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Farmboy said:Been a while since we've seriously talked Veepstakes (Hagel lol). Buzz has it this man is now the front-runner:
Your thoughts, PoliGAF? Personally I like him. I think Kaine is actually more likely to deliver Virginia than Webb (I would have preferred Warner, but the Dems need him in the Senate), and he reportedly has a good relationship with Obama. Downsides are his somewhat anti-choice views and his lack of foreign policy credentials. Republicans also tried to paint him off as soft on crime/anti-capital punishment when he was running for governor, but that backfired.
I honestly think Kaine is going to be it now. If not, possibly Bayh or (longshot) Sebelius. Can't see it being Dodd. Pretty much all of the other prospects have declined or been ruled out at this point.
Kaine has made it pretty clear that he's going to stay governor though. The Virginia 3 are all in situations where becoming VP could hurt the party (losing seats in the senate) and then there's Kaine who basically just became governor
kkaabboomm
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25649744/
Tony Snow died at 53 - ex Bush press secretary/ex host of Fox News Sunday
didn't know if this was in another thread, but it is poligaf related
Tony Snow died at 53 - ex Bush press secretary/ex host of Fox News Sunday
didn't know if this was in another thread, but it is poligaf related
PhoenixDark said:
Actually, Kaine is the only one of the Virginians who hasn't made any sort of Shermanesque statement.
I think Biden has ruled himself out. Richardson is being suspiciously quiet, but he isn't being mentioned as much as he used to be. Sebelius and Edwards are likely still in the running, though. I'd be very surprised if it turned out to be someone other than Kaine, Bayh or Edwards, with Sebelius and Dodd as possible longshots.
No, he said he wouldn't leave gov. to get a cabinet position, but said he'd have to seriously consider VP.PhoenixDark said:
Uh.. he point blank said if he was asked he'd accept.Farmboy said:
I say IMO the final four likely are in this order:
1. Kaine
2. Bayh
3. Biden
4. Selebius
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