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PoliGAF Thread of THE END and FIST POUNDS (NYT: Hillary drop out/endorse Saturday)

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ZealousD said:
Hey wait a second. I think I'm not looking at this from the right angle.

Let's think for a moment why some of these crazy people are voting for Clinton. She's a woman. They want to see a woman in the White House.

That's their mindset, that's their state of mind, whether they are willing to admit it or not. That's why Hillaryis44 is covered in pink. It's the color associated with women.

So then, when you having people thinking in that mindset, who becomes the obvious enemy? The people who vote against her because she's a woman. When you're a woman voting for a candidate based on their gender, than the immediate, polar opposite enemy is the man who votes for Barack Obama because he's a man.

So, when your major issue is gender, when that is what matters to you, than the election becomes simplified and condensed around gender! So then the only explanation that she loses in such a simplified and condensed race is again... gender! She lost because Barack Obama is a sexist!

And then, everything external is built around that to hide that truth! He's unelectable! His pastor is an angry man! He doesn't care about voters in Michigan and Florida! He lacks experience! He's a liar! He's a phony! He runs a CULT!

It's not fair to say that because then you'd have people claiming that all the black people out there are only voting for Obama because he's black and that surely isn't the case for me.

I was originally rooting for Hilary all the way and didn't feel Obama had much of a chance nor was I interested in what he was saying often. Then came Obama's Iowa win and heard his speech afterwards and a real sense of pride kicked in seeing him do so well. It's the first time the thought jumped into my head about the possibility that an African American could become president. That very speech is what got me to start paying attention to politics. Even then, I would've still been completely satisfied if either of them him or Hilary won.

As time passed though and Bill Clinton started to get out of line during the New Hampshire Primary with his fairytale comment (that one really pissed me off) and Hilary also began to show a side I wasn't too pleased with and then the cry to get pity moment really made me sick. On top of that she insulted Iowa voters by basically saying that their vote doesn't mean much because they've never mattered in deciding a president in any general election or something like that. It struck me as extremely bitter and really made me think much less of her as a person. Smile and shake peopls hands, act as if you care about what they care about and then have the audacity to insult them the next minute just because you didn't like the outcome?

Then the sour grapes lawsuit that was filed on Hilary's behalf knowing full well that her and her campaign had something to do with the teacher's association filing that lawsuit during the Nevada caucus to prevent the opening of casinos for voting. No lawsuit would've been filed had the Culinary union endorsed her instead of Obama. Then came accusations of voter suppression against the Obama campaign in Nevada showing that just in case she lost she already had an excuse prepared.

Then came South Carolina. Between the blatant race baiting, the insulting Martin Luther King comment, which I strongly believe she meant every word of, and attempting to accuse Obama of playing the race card when he clearly hadn't along with all the other antics that went on during that period like the radio ad suggesting that Obama was in favor of ronald reagan's policies that were in no way good for african americans...

Oh I completely forgot about the outright suggestions to Obama's past drug use while someone was introducing Hilary and she didn't feel it was proper to apologize considering what he said about Obama while introducing Hilary Clinton.

She went way too far there and lets not forget the debate where she tried to lay into Obama and Obama showed some fight owning both her and bill oh and jessie jackson won south carolina twice according to bill clinton.

It's after all these things that I decided there was no way in hell I could ever support this woman. She had went way too far in her efforts to win and was showing what a rotten person she truly was.

Every piece of criticism she started receiving was of her own doing. She caused it to happen. It was also obvious that she clearly wasn't quite as inspiring as Obama was. She doesn't didn't come off as being nearly as likeable. The media was just being truthful in that sense. The pantsuits aren't anything that anyone should've taken seriously.

Pantsuit jokes don't cost her votes nor should it be insulting for a grown ass woman. I don't recall hearing much marriage is a sham stuff around the time she and her husband singlehandedly were dismantling her campaign.



Edit :: LOL Deus Ex Obama was so quick on his feat with that one. Hilary with the loud laugh was clearly trying and hoping that Obama would end up looking stupid right there and she would disprove his entire campaign message and he completely turned it on her.

Shame she didn't realize Obama was being 100% serious :lol

Famous Al Gore kiss.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PIpFBngC1ys

That was not done well at all :)
 
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:D

Louis Farrakhan about Obama "He had a African father and a White mother he's truly an African American"

I was wondering where he was going with it at first, but nice one :lol
 
CowboyAstronaut said:

Louis Farrakhan about Obama "He had a African father and a White mother he's truly an African American"

I was wondering where he was going with it at first, but nice one :lol[/QUOTE]

Yeah, at first, I was "eh, yeah, so?" and quickly transitioned into "oh snap, he's right!"

And, I like being reminded daily that the rest of the civilized world supports Barack Obama.
 

Trakdown

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So, what's the over/under on their being some huge, embarrassing moment at the meeting (probably caused by the protesters)?
 
I'm not sure if this is worth mentioning, but considering the relationship between the two individuals I feel he may be onto something.


I have a really good friend here in New York who works for the NYPD. He didn't always live here in New York he previously use to live in Delaware. He went to the same Academy as Joe Biden did in Delaware and has been very good friends with him for a pretty long time now.

He sounds almost 100% certain that Joe Biden will be Obama's VP. I asked if that suspicion was based on anything Joe said to him specifically and his response was basically (probably not a direct quote)

"Joe didn't come out with it, like he didn't outright say he will be Obama's VP, but it's more the way he was talking when the subject of Obama's chances in this upcoming election was brought up. I think he sounded a bit more enthusiastic than I'm usually use to hearing him and I talk to him a lot so I know when something is up and he's not talking. Not entirely due to the enthusiasm mind you because I'm sure a lot of other people are pretty enthusiastic about Obama's chances, but something was definitely off like he was trying his hardest and not succeeding to keep the fact that he was hiding something secret.

He definitely seems like he'll have some major role that he isn't talking about and I'm betting VP."

What you guys think? Biden VP?

There you have it and as I said that's clearly not a direct quote, but the gist of it.
 
The next president said:
I believe in the second amendment, I believe in all parts of the Constitution. I believe in the rights of hunters and sportsmen, don't let folks tell you otherwise, because it's just not the facts. Remember, you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

No wonder the current administration and Hillary both dislike him so much!!
 
If if does put Bidem somewhere in his administration, I hope he uses Biden's Iraq plan. I liked that Biden wanted to change the course rather than just pull out. I think he was the only candidate thinking that way, and he actually had a plan.
 

thefro

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We should have got Anonymous to do the counter-protest of the Hillary supporters and act like they were all scientologists.
 

Cheebs

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VistraNorrez said:
If if does put Bidem somewhere in his administration, I hope he uses Biden's Iraq plan. I liked that Biden wanted to change the course rather than just pull out. I think he was the only candidate thinking that way, and he actually had a plan.
I've always liked Biden's plan.

Biden is right in that the 3 sects of Iraq will NEVER get along so it's best to split them in 3 and let them each run their own area within Iraq with a very strong "state" govt. and a weak national one. I always felt that plan of his could work. It frustrates me no one has listened to him though.
 
CowboyAstronaut said:

As an Obama supporter, I want to point out that Obama is not my messiah. He is not the voice of God, he is just a politician that I really identify with that I also find inspiring.



Chuck Todd on the other hand is in fact the second coming of Jesus. Seriously, cut Jesus' hippy beard into a clean cut goatee, give him a few pounds (Jesus was ripped on that cross!), and BOOM, Chuck "The God" Todd. How else do you explain him actually understanding delegate math? Other then supernatural powers derived from the Father, no mortal man can understand them. I DARE you to refute that, it is impossible!
 

Keylime

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Even the other candidates laughed at her, and I do believe I spotted some clapping beneath their podiums.

Also, chucktoddfacts are blocked here, wtf. : (

Post some good ones, please.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
"Give Chuck Todd a slide rule and enough black coffee and he'll be able to accurately predict presidential elections (district by district) through 2052."

"The Earth was created in 6 days - just as Chuck Todd predicted."
 

sangreal

Member
43 of the 50 states are legally required to have hand recounts if the results of any election are not EXACTLY as Chuck Todd predicts. The other 7... skip the "middle man" and just ask Chuck what the results are.
 

sangreal

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anyone else watching c-span? some batshit hillary supporter (she sounded like a black woman) just called in and went on a long tirade about how she is going to vote McCain if they allow Obama to steal this nomination
 
FlightOfHeaven said:
Even the other candidates laughed at her, and I do believe I spotted some clapping beneath their podiums.

Also, chucktoddfacts are blocked here, wtf. : (

Post some good ones, please.
Rocket Scientists say "It doesn't take Chuck Todd to figure that out".

Ockham's razor says that the simplest solution tends to be the best. Ockham never met Chuck Todd.

Chuck Todd understands the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Rocket Scientists say "It doesn't take Chuck Todd to figure that out".

Ockham's razor says that the simplest solution tends to be the best. Ockham never met Chuck Todd.

Chuck Todd understands the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Chuck Todd is his own constant.
 
sangreal said:
anyone else watching c-span? some batshit hillary supporter (she sounded like a black woman) just called in and went on a long tirade about how she is going to vote McCain if they allow Obama to steal this nomination
:lol Or the one who called and said that they should just kick Bush out, no impeachment necessary, and make Al Gore the President, with Obama his VP for now.

Roll call going on now.
 
Sir Fragula said:
Quick question; what's the deal with Puerto Rico not having statehood.
They don't want it. From what I understand, they like where they are now - connected to the US, but still sort of independent.
 

scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
...i was expecting Dean to yell out a 'ROOOOOOOOAARRRRRRRRR' after going through that list of demographics
 

EMBee99

all that he wants is another baby
Amir0x said:

If there's a bright light to all this primary malarkey, it's that sainthood has been appointed to Chuck Todd.




Chuck Todd for VP.

That way, he can predict his own presidential win 8 years from now RIGHT NOW.
 
EMBee99 said:
If there's a bright light to all this primary malarkey, it's that sainthood has been appointed to Chuck Todd.




Chuck Todd for VP.

That way, he can predict his own presidential win 8 years from now RIGHT NOW.

"Did I ever tell you about the time Chuck Todd took me out to go get a drink with him? We go off looking for a bar and we can't find one. Finally Chuck Todd takes me to a vacant lot and says, 'Here we are.' We sat there for a year and a half and sure enough someone constructs a bar around us. The day they opened we ordered a shot, drank it, and then burned the place to the ground. Chuck Todd yelled over the roar of the flames, 'Always leave things the way you found em!'"
 

Tamanon

Banned
LOL at more support for the 48 states who followed the rules, guess the room isn't as packed with Hillary supporters.
 

DrForester

Kills Photobucket
Grecco said:
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Shes going to Win PR and its going to be by a lot.... Obama must be confident over todays decicion


I think there's no question that Hillary's going to be given the PR victory today and if Obama's smart he wont try to take it away from her. Gives her a little victory to make the loss easier.
 
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