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[Manmademan]

Regarding fuel efficiency...

Despite all the recent advances in automotive technology, the average MPG of automobiles has actually gone DOWN slightly since the 1980s. Something is fucked up there.

that's not a surprise at all. cars in the early 80s were trending smaller and more fuel efficient.

in contrast over the last 5 years we've seen an explosion in large trucks and ridiculous SUVs like the hummer and the escalade, as well as the return of the 60s and 70s musclecars with insane horsepower ratings and terrible MPG.

 

[Odrion]

Wow, the speech took place somewhere rather close to me. Like 45 minutes close.

I feel really bummed out now.

 

[avatar299]

hahaha avatar299 worships Obama?

Jesus Christ Absinthe, do you even attend PoliGAF?

don't insult me, please.

Obama is still wrong on many things. I just think he is a great leader

 

[Stinkles]

None of which addresses our addiction to oil in the next 4 years. I want to know his solution for that man that can't afford to pay his gas.

Number one would be to regulate your shitty free market speculation on commodities. Unless you don't want to help your straw man gas victim.

 

[The Crimson Kid]

I answered it.

Nah, I meant he would jump in, say something that would rile up PoliGAF, and then jump out, without any intention of starting a conversation. He wouldn't answer our responses, not the other way around.

I did word it a bit oddly, though.

 

[Tamanon]

17,000 inside at Obama's
15,000 outside at Obama's

...

600 TOTAL at McCain's

:lol

Actually there were 1000 people supposedly outside the McCain event. He chose to give a speech in a 600 person capacity place.

 

[TreIII]

AWESOME. I loved that speech.

And some one needs to get on that Respeck Knuckles! DO IT! :lol

 

[StoOgE]

This just hit me like a ton of bricks.. Im so fucking happy Im half in tears right now. Ive never worked this hard for a candidate, I still get to represent him this weekend at the state convention.. God I want him to win so much in Novemember.

Im officially taking a week off and getting a hotel room in some swing state to go door to door. I'm leaving everything on the table this time..

 

[mj1108]

 

[Y2Kev]

When Kerry lost, I really felt nothing.

If Obama loses, I will seriously just lose all hope.

 

[TiVo]

i could not find one crazy looking nut in the entire crowd

 

[ZeoVGM]

hilaryis44 is talking about how great it was of hillary to stay in the race so that montana and south dakota had the chance to vote :lol :lol

 

[ezekial45]

Did it look like Obama was beginning to tear up to anyone else?

 

[Xdrive05]

 

[lopaz]

None of which addresses our addiction to oil in the next 4 years. I want to know his solution for that man that can't afford to pay his gas.

Walk. Or the govt can push for cars which are cheaper to run, prices will come down, everyone's happy. Except rednecks.

 

[Gaborn]

Number one would be to regulate your shitty free market speculation on commodities. Unless you don't want to help your straw man gas victim.

Obama brought him up, he's not MY straw man. And so far he has not given a solution for the man he mentioned in his speech.

 

[Keylime]

Actually there were 1000 people supposedly outside the McCain event. He chose to give a speech in a 600 person capacity place.

Ok so then:

32,000 Total @ Obama
1,600 Total @ McCain

Obama draws 2000% more people than McCain.

 

[Amir0x]

http://thepage.time.com/campaign-release-on-265-supers-endorsing-obama-as-polls-close/

summation of all 26.5 superdelegate votes that came out for him after the polls closed

.

DNC Member Christine Pelosi said:

“Barack Obama has captured the majority of the popular delegates from caucuses and primaries from sea to shining sea. Barack Obama has the vision, ideas and values needed to bring positive change to our lives, from economic justice to energy independence to an end to the Iraq war and care for our veterans. As an activist dedicated to participatory democracy, I am thrilled that tens of millions of voters and tens of thousands of volunteers have participated in this Democratic nomination and breathed new life intro our democracy. I have great respect for our other presidential candidates, particularly Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has proved herself to be a champion for working families.”

Awesome. Not so soon until mama bear endorses

 

[Pelydr]

Because this makes much more sense (forcing corporations to research in certain directions) than doing SIMPLE things like starting to build nuclear plants for most of our household energy and drilling the VAST amounts of oil we have in ANWR, Colorado, and the Gulf - all of which will create jobs and lower prices.

Have you not seen the clip of Charlie Gibson clearly laying out to Obama that EVERY time capital gains taxes were lowered, government revenue went up, and yet Obama was like "we'll see" because he knows that a large portion of his base is more about sticking it to the man (taxing the "rich") than reality. Hell, the government is bringing in WAY more money now than it ever has in tax receipts, why would a big government spender like Obama want to change that?

Holy shit. Aren't you the Obama = Marxist dude?

 

[Tamanon]

:lol Chris Matthews marveling over....the camera angle?

 

[RBH]

:lol

 

[Sharp]

Actually there were 1000 people supposedly outside the McCain event. He chose to give a speech in a 600 person capacity place.

Yeah, he actually had a higher ratio of people outside to people inside. I imagine that means something.

 

[Nameless]

That friends, was a speech. He appealed to America not just his supporters which is something that was absent from the other two speeches.

 

[Alcander]

Did it look like Obama was tearing up to anyone?

I noticed that too.

 

[Nameless]

That friends, was a speech. He appealed to America not just his supporters which is something that was absent from the other two speeches.

 

[reilo]

To compare Obama to the robot that is Kerry is just asinine. And I like Kerry.

The Gore loss can be blamed on Florida [like many things] and the stupidty of conservative America. McCain won't have that support.

 

[sangreal]

None of which addresses our addiction to oil in the next 4 years. I want to know his solution for that man that can't afford to pay his gas.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/EnergyFactSheet.pdf

 

[worldrunover]

:lol Matthews is slurping up Obama's photogenic-ness.

BTW, since when is McCain's slogan "A Leader we can believe in?" I mean did we call him out on this yet? It's almost as bad as "Yes We Will". Did the other candidates just realize that Obama was so far and away better at campaign slogans they'll just plain steal them? Really?

 

[Lemonz]

Did it look like Obama was beginning to tear up to anyone else?

He sure was.

 

[Speevy]

 

[perfectchaos007]

Jesse Jackson is pleased.

 

[DarienA]

ROTFLMAO!

That is awesome.

 

[valparaiso]

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

n.b.: i'm not even american :$

 

[Amir0x]

don't insult me, please.

Obama is still wrong on many things. I just think he is a great leader

uh, it's an insult to say you don't worship Obama? i didn't know such a thing could be an insult.

Please stop continually degrading the word "insult", you paranoid fuck.

 

[Ponn]

What a speech by President Obama. Can't wait to vote in Nov. Hopefully my fellow Floridians won't fuck this up.

 

[reilo]

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/EnergyFactSheet.pdf

How foolish of me to think he actually read that!

 

[Stinkles]

Obama brought him up, he's not MY straw man. And so far he has not given a solution for the man he mentioned in his speech.

I apologize for the inference. I am chastened. But obviously this speech was not a policy speech. It's a victory speech and a call to arms for the rest of the campaign/

 

[TDG]

To compare Obama to the robot that is Kerry is just asinine. And I like Kerry.

The Gore loss can be blamed on Florida [like many things] and the stupidty of conservative America. McCain won't have that support.

I really like Kerry as a person, and I like his stances. It's just a shame that Kerry was so uncharismatic.

 

[avatar299]

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/EnergyFactSheet.pdf

In a speech please.

I mean, seriously?

 

[iapetus]

Ok so then:

32,000 Total @ Obama
1,600 Total @ McCain

Obama draws 2000% more people than McCain.

This may be speculation, but I'm confident in my numbers: you won't find that ratio applies to votes when it comes to election time.

 

[Trakdown]

Thank you, Keith Olbermann. Bringing up how historic this win is and how much of an upset it was.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

My mother left the living room when Obama came out to speak. She can't stand him and is a Hillary supporter. I just lol'd. :lol :lol

 

[Suikoguy]

It's going to come down to turnout.
I expect everyone in this thread having been charged up by Obama, to do what they can to get their friends and family out to vote this November, and Volunteer however they can.

Take this energy, and channel it. The Obama presidency is truly within reach.

I certainly will be.

 

[Illuminati]

What a speech by President Obama. Can't wait to vote in Nov. Hopefully my fellow Floridians won't fuck this up.

Don't worry if Florida does not do their part Ohio is ready to step up.

 

[grandjedi6]

Jesse Jackson is pleased.

Actually he is. All day he has been going on about how this is a transformational moment in history and how great it is.

 

[Sharp]

My mother left the living room when Obama came out to speak. She can't stand him and is a Hillary supporter. I just lol'd. :lol :lol

Ask her to watch it. Ask her to realize that he welcomes her, that he respects Hillary and that the two of them are much more similar than they are different.

 

[avatar299]

uh, it's an insult to say you don't worship Obama? i didn't know such a thing could be an insult.

Please stop continually degrading the word "insult", you paranoid fuck.

It was a joke, though I find the idea or "worshipping" someone to be stupid

 

[Absinthe (Permed)]

To compare Obama to the robot that is Kerry is just asinine. And I like Kerry.

The Gore loss can be blamed on Florida [like many things] and the stupidty of conservative America. McCain won't have that support.

I was pointing out that presidential candidates can lose debates (Gore embarrassed Bush) and they can still win the presidential nomination. It's not like Obama is a lock if he embarrasses McCain in the debates.

 

[DarienA]

My mother left the living room when Obama came out to speak. She can't stand him and is a Hillary supporter. I just lol'd. :lol :lol

The amt of Hillary supporters polled that said they wouldn't support Obama if he won the democratic nomination was incredible... there's some serious anger... I was always under the impression you supported your party first.....

 

[Qwerty710710]

That was a great speech best one so far.