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PolliGaf 2012 |OT5| Big Bird, Binders, Bayonets, Bad News and Benghazi

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Black Mamba

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I almost want Obama to win by Silver's closest prediction simply to vindicate him and the math nerds like us everywhere.

THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT HEALTHCARE, THE ECONOMY, AND WARS ANYMORE. IT'S PERSONAL.


Despite the fact that the ads premise is ridiculous it is an outstanding ad, simply because its direct and honest - at least from the creators point of view.
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My dad actually left a much much harsher socialist country and he was an adult (not a teen like that guy). According to him, the GOP talk like the old socialists that controlled him. Oh, my dad was a Republican when he became a US citizen
 
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Consumer spending rises 0.8% in September
Good news for the economy?
Bad news for Obama

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I don't agree with this. Hollinger has actually been more accurate that most of the stat geeks.

I have my disagreements with him (especially on PER) but his predictions are quite good relative to the rest of the field. I am too lazy to go find the past evidence, but I've read it and posted some of it in the past in the NBA threads.
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As a Mavs fan, we constantly get shit on by Hollinger saying we're one of the bottom teams in the league- and what do you know? We make the playoffs every year. He might be right about the clear favorites (i.e. LeBron, Kobe, etc.) but he misses the boat on a lot of smaller market or less popular players.
 
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Black Mamba said:
I almost want Obama to win by Silver's closest prediction simply to vindicate him and the math nerds like us everywhere.

THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT HEALTHCARE, THE ECONOMY, AND WARS ANYMORE. IT'S PERSONAL.




My dad actually left a much much harsher socialist country and he was an adult (not a teen like that guy). According to him, the GOP talk like the old socialists that controlled him. Oh, my dad was a Republican when he became a US citizen
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Can you elaborate on what he means by that?

Oh, and what socialist country did he leave?
 
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"Romney cares about the economy - democrats just care about polls" has to be the best terrible argument I've heard all cycle.
 
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Anticitizen One said:
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Needs a "Haters gonna hate!"
 
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I wonder if there's a universe where Romney will win in a surprise landslide causing the New York Times fire Silver and hire Dean Chambers.
 
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Can you elaborate on what he means by that?

Oh, and what socialist country did he leave?
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Romania under Ceausescu. Escaped in the late 70s.

He says the GOP uses the same propaganda tactics he was bombarded with. Christianity is to the GOP like socialism was to them. "war on Christmas" and the shunning of opposing view (like Islam). He also talks about how the GOP goes back to "family values" much the same way as the socialists did with regards to "values" to your people/state. They just interchange the words.

Most of all, he says the corporatism of today is the socialism he grew up with. To him, they're no different. Socialists owned the TV business and if you wanted a TV you got it from them. Today there are now 3 (or 4) actual manufacturers of TVs despite numerous distributors. The notion of choice has been eroded. Only 3 major cell phone carriers. Only a handful of major banks. etc. To him this is how it was in socialism and how the US is moving into that but from a different angle. "corporations are people, my friend." "The state is family, my brother."

He's not a democrat either, mind you. He became a Reagan Republican and then got so disillusioned by the actual outcome the two parties he refuses to vote on anything (after Perot in '92), anymore.

To him the democrats are more socialist in the traditional sense and the GOP is socialist from a different approach. But rhetoric wise, he says the GOP of the past 15 years is eerily similar to the propagandists he lived through.

I feel he brings an interesting perspective having actual grown up and been an adult in that country during that time and coming to America before Reagan. He won't have any of my "less of two evils" argument, though. lol


As a Mavs fan, we constantly get shit on by Hollinger saying we're one of the bottom teams in the league- and what do you know? We make the playoffs every year. He might be right about the clear favorites (i.e. LeBron, Kobe, etc.) but he misses the boat on a lot of smaller market or less popular players.
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He got last season pretty dead on. Really, only 2011 he missed and EVERYONE missed 2011 not just Hollinger regarding Dallas. I won't hold him against that. IIRC, he's pretty good even with the lower playoff seeds. He's also been very wrong on the Lakers during both title runs (lol Utah beating them) but hey, can't be perfect in sports.
 
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CHEEZMO™;43752033 said:
https://twitter.com/ScottMDixon22/status/263062849004400640

I think he's onto something, you guys.
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HA I was waiting for someone to start saying something about elections delaying us into dictatorship LOL

You know the wheels come off the bus now, the GOP is going to blame everything but the fact they are too extreme and Romney was a shitty candidate. I can only imagine what that party is going to look like in 2016
 
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markatisu said:
HA I was waiting for someone to start saying something about elections delaying us into dictatorship LOL

You know the wheels come off the bus now, the GOP is going to blame everything but the fact they are too extreme and Romney was a shitty candidate. I can only imagine what that party is going to look like in 2016
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Oh, they'll blame Romney when he loses, but you are correct that they won't admit that they were too extreme. If anything they'll wish they picked Santorum and run further to the right next time.
 
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So DK had a little round up of how early voting's looking in a few battle ground states:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...n-early-voting-FL-IA-NV-NC-and-PA?detail=hide

Every one of them seems positive EXCEPT Pennsylvania, which as I've been mentioning over the past several months, was the state I was most worried about despite what SHOULD be obvious Democratic leads.
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That absentee lead in PA is 20,000 votes out of 120,000. 2008 turnout was about 6 million. That represents a banked lead of about 0.3% with 98% of the vote still to come. And note that's only absentee ballots -- PA has no real early voting program.
 
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Tello910 said:
Just saw this ad on tv, FL. I wonder how much was spent on creating this scare tactic

"We Owe China"
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It's funny because what we owe China is precisely some quantity of inherently worthless bits of green paper. It's only a problem if we run out of trees. Even then, we could always pay in pixels. This commercial is racist against the Chinese for presuming them so stupid.
 
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empty vessel said:
It's funny because what we owe China is precisely some quantity of inherently worthless bits of green paper. It's only a problem if we run out of trees. Even then, we could always pay in pixels. This commercial is racist against the Chinese for presuming them so stupid.
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but what if we run out of pixels?!
 
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Oh, they'll blame Romney when he loses, but you are correct that they won't admit that they were too extreme. If anything they'll wish they picked Santorum and run further to the right next time.
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And they'll likely point to the third debate, with all of Romney's agreeing with Obama, as the moment that "did him in". Because he "wasn't presenting a clear choice". They'll pretend Romney was winning up until then, instead of surging his way from a landslide failure to a slight loss. They'll toss out some bollocks about people preferring an incumbent when there's no clear alternative put out there- but not dramatically, since the election "was impossible to predict"- which is why, this cycle, we're gonna go super-hard right!
 
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And they'll likely point to the third debate, with all of Romney's agreeing with Obama, as the moment that "did him in". Because he "wasn't presenting a clear choice". They'll pretend Romney was winning up until then, instead of surging his way from a landslide failure to a slight loss. They'll toss out some bollocks about people preferring an incumbent when there's no clear alternative put out there- but not dramatically, since the election "was unpredictable"- which is why, this cycle, we're gonna go super-hard right!
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Straight-up Christofascism or bust, I say.
 
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JCizzle said:
Well, can anyone give me an explanation why Election Day isn't a Federal holiday? I know the GOP wants to restrict voting and all that, but beyond that - is there a legitimate reason?
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The United States actually has no national holidays by law. There's holidays the government recognizes for it's own employees, but it'd be well within Nebraska's right to not acknowledge July 4th, or for California to ignore Labor Day for example. Nobody is required to have any holiday off.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_the_United_States
 
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markatisu said:
HA I was waiting for someone to start saying something about elections delaying us into dictatorship LOL

You know the wheels come off the bus now, the GOP is going to blame everything but the fact they are too extreme and Romney was a shitty candidate. I can only imagine what that party is going to look like in 2016
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It won't matter. By 2016, that anti-colonist Obama will have completed his plans for destroying the USA.



(We say such things sarcastically but you just know there is someone on Rapture Ready messageboard saying the exact same thing but being serious. That is sad.)
 
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