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reminds me of Diamonds, huge radio AI but no one is buying
Wafflecakes
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I C some of you have gone into power rotation
What a lovely Top 5. *.*
1...2....3...4....5.............................6
Oh....I see dat shade......
How does Trigger have so many posts, I hardly ever see any of her posts.
Also I listened to Channel Orange again and I agRiH with the Xtuna stans now.
Lol jk the album is good and y'all can remain pressed that a gay man in the hip hop genre is finding success while writing one or two songs about his sexuality. Must be okay when Xtincta sings extremely perverse and provocative songs about sex knowing she's a mother.
Also I listened to Channel Orange again and I agRiH with the Xtuna stans now.
Lol jk the album is good and y'all can remain pressed that a gay man in the hip hop genre is finding success while writing one or two songs about his sexuality. Must be okay when Xtincta sings extremely perverse and provocative songs about sex knowing she's a mother.
What does her being a mother have to do with anything?
reminds me of Diamonds, huge radio AI but no one is buying
They start coming and I start rising
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I should make it to 176 by the time this thread is done in a few days
I find it appalling that some of you (Botty, Kyon, Royalan) come for an artist that put out one of the best albums of the year, who recently got SIX nominations for the most prestigious award in the industry, by saying that no one is here for his music, and only for his sexuality.
What about Xtina and Britney, huh? Their current claim to fame is not their music. When one thinks about either of their standings in society today, music does not come to mind. They can both be found sitting their asses down on reality TV show judging seats. One of the two recently put out an album and it got paid absolute DUST by both consumers and critics. The other used their TV show to bring attention to a recent feature. Clearly the public eye is not on their music.
When Xtina and Britney get recent recognition for music, you can start coming for Frank Ocean.
Until then, remain seated, continue seething, and stay doing the most.
What about Xtina and Britney, huh? Their current claim to fame is not their music. When one thinks about either of their standings in society today, music does not come to mind. They can both be found sitting their asses down on reality TV show judging seats. One of the two recently put out an album and it got paid absolute DUST by both consumers and critics. The other used their TV show to bring attention to a recent feature. Clearly the public eye is not on their music.
When Xtina and Britney get recent recognition for music, you can start coming for Frank Ocean.
Until then, remain seated, continue seething, and stay doing the most.
Wafflecakes
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Just click on the post count for the thread on the community page.
Totals should pop up in a new window.
1...2....3...4....5.............................6
Oh....I see dat shade......
such a clever pressed gurl he is
And you would have a point here if Britney and Christina were new artists debuting within the last two years.
But nope. They are acclaimed pop artists with millions of records sold. Been in the game for over a decade making MUSIC.
It's not our fault that Frank Ocean is a new artist and so far all the media wants to highlight is his sexuality.
#Gurrbye
I just clicked this and already I'm slayed by the bassline.
I'm bopping.
I'm liking this minimalist direction some artists are taking. Reminds me of the new Kelis song with Skream.
EDIT: Apparently this is a EP with multiple tracks. The song I was referring to was Weak Spot.
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DRAG THEM
Wafflecakes
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Why is it that Amazon has WORSE deals on music during the holidays than it has at any other time of the year? Have a bunch of credits and discounts that expire in a couple days but nothing to buy......kept waiting for RED or Take Me Home physical CD's to go on sale.....or something.
You gotta make sense to drag, Rob.
You of all people shouldn't be endorsing someone who wants to cast sweeping judgment on an artist based on their most recent output while ignoring their entire body of work.
On no level does Arte make any shred of sense comparing Frank Ocean to Britney or Christina. Both girls are established, acclaimed, and have paid their dues.
And neither of them have hardly any presence in the industry anymore. That time is over for both of them.
And when does the media at large EVER highlight music? I'm sure that will get people tuning in to E! News. "FRANK OCEAN'S ALBUM HAS A 92 ON METACRITIC!!11111"
Again, he got nominated for 6 Grammys, the most prestigious music award worldwide. His album has incredible reception, and sold quite well in the US. The music scene has all their attention on his music and could give two fucks about his sexuality.
Bye.
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait. So you're saying that when Christina and Britney debuted, all the press they got was about their music?
This gif reminded me I havent posted this video
Lady Gaga visit to Ventanilla School Lima Peru
coming for Shakira's Humanitarian wig
Gurl, then why is his sexuality at the forefront of every conversation?
And I can think of more than several artists who keep the focus on their music. Problem is they rarely become media sensations like Ocean has.
Not what I'm saying at all. All I'm saying is it makes no sense to drag Christina and Britney for where they are now in the music industry in defense of an artist who just debuted and so far doesn't even have half the acclaim attached to his name that they have built up over their entire careers.
Brit and Xtina are more than just what they're doing right now.
Breathe is one of my songs of the year, but not really a fan of most of the rest of the EP tbh. Maybe will grow on me. Definitely agree the direction is nice.
Only artist I've heard to really remind me of AlunaGeorge too.
Yes, continue to use the word "recent" because even as teenagers Britney and Christina's careers were infinitely more relevant and acclaimed than the insignificant speck of dust that is Frank Ocean's music career. His album is a piece of shit, and the only reason anyone cared about it was due to the hype built by his bandwagon stans... all of which sing praise for his music, but never use it. Let's also not forget that no one in Pop Gaf began the "Frank Ocean is famous for coming out" stuff, so you (and whoever the hell else keeps throwing this around) can have several seats, and accept the facTs.
It goes with out saying that 2012 was a shitty and boring year in music, and we can look no further than the #1's that plagued us this year: Gotye, Maroon 5, Carly Rae Jepsen, PSY, and Rihanna. Fitting that Francis would be the the poster boy for what might go down as the world's worst year in music, and also what the Mayans thought would be the end of the world.
Based on Frank's nominations, he will be lucky if he even wins one grammy. There are people he is up against who have built their careers on having talent, good music, and not instagram or tumblr. Eventually when this band wagon dies, and moves onto the next "big" thing, you will look back and realize that I never told one damn lie.
Now all of you can go back to enjoying Channel Orange... Oh wait, that's right, You weren't.
Yes, and who on earth becomes a media sensation because of their music?
Rihanna does because Chris Brown assaulted her. Gaga does because of her outfits. Xtina does because of her weight and her place on the Voice. Britney did because of her controversial sexualization and breakdown.
And it's not like he chose to be the object of this attention. His sexuality was never even flaunted. He was made a media sensation because being gay is still viewed controversial.
Haven't listened to anything from this EP before, but I'm in love with it. Love the chill mood it sets with these randoms bits of dissonance thrown in.
I think "Hide" is my favorite track.
Hide is my favorite as well.
Yes, continue to use the word "recent" because even as teenagers Britney and Christina's careers were infinitely more relevant and acclaimed than the insignificant speck of dust that is Frank Ocean's music career. His album is a piece of shit, and the only reason anyone cared about it was due to the hype built by his bandwagon stans... all of which sing praise for his music, but never use it. Let's also not forget that no one in Pop Gaf began the "Frank Ocean is famous for coming out" stuff, so you (and whoever the hell else keeps throwing this around) can have several seats, and accept the facTs.
It goes with out saying that 2012 was a shitty and boring year in music, and we can look no further than the #1's that plagued us this year: Gotye, Maroon 5, Carly Rae Jepsen, PSY, and Rihanna. Fitting that Francis would be the the poster boy for what might go down as the world's worst year in music, and also what the Mayans thought would be the end of the world.
Based on Frank's nominations, he will be lucky if he even wins one grammy. There are people he is up against who have built their careers on having talent, good music, and not instagram or tumblr. Eventually when this band wagon dies, and moves onto the next "big" thing, you will look back and realize that I never told one damn lie.
Now all of you can go back to enjoying Channel Orange... Oh wait, that's right, You weren't.
COMPREHENSIVE READING
botty said:
When did the media ever place Britney or Christina's music at the forefront?
All the media cared about was their look, love lives, and status as celebs.
So why do you come for Frank Ocean from that tired angle?
I appreciate that the Little Periods have invented a parallel universe where Frank Ocean didn't put out one of the year's highest-rated releases and people are only talking about him because he's bisexual. That's a special kind of delusional.
And where Lotus was considered a good album by more than four people.
Right, sis, Xtina was made by the quality of her music and nothing to do with the manufactured rivalry between her and Britney.
Isn't it amazing? I guess if you believe something really strongly, it becomes true!!!!!!!
I can only imagine how FURIOUSLY INSULTED Mumei must feel right now.
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I'm loving how pressed the Frank Ocean haters have gotten all of a sudden. His Grammy slayage has left some emotional scarring, I see.
And it's funny how people always seem to mention his sexuality when talking about his success-or the lack of it.
People seem to love his music. And that's it. Deal with it.
And it's funny how people always seem to mention his sexuality when talking about his success-or the lack of it.
People seem to love his music. And that's it. Deal with it.
Do you really mean to imply that you've never heard of music artists that burst onto the scene and were made media darlings due to the sheer quality of their talent/music and not the self-made controversy surrounding it?
Wasn't Christina on the Mickey Mouse Club prior to her music career? She also came around the same time as Britney and that served as 'heated competition'.
But Mariah and Whitney are good examples.
I'm loving how pressed the Frank Ocean haters have gotten all of a sudden. His Grammy slayage has left some emotional scarring, I see.
And it's funny how people always seem to mention his sexuality when talking about his success-or the lack of it.
People seem to love his music. And that's it. Deal with it.
All of a sudden? Bro Botty has been ran over by a tank pressed for months now.
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I thought he was comparing him cuz that's who y'all stan for? Dragging Frank because the media focuses on his sexuality is as bad as dragging Britney for the media focusing on her virginity, or which dancer Christina was dating now. The media will focus on what sells to you slavering beasts and not what's interesting. Someone in this thread says they don't even pay attention to what publications have to say about music. So if the majority of you enjoy the salacious details over music discussion, is that the artists fault? No.
These LIES
Also we DRAG Francis because the majority aren't here for his music.
Godney and Legend X sold records for their TALENT AND media personas. Francis is only being stanned for because of his sexuality there is a difference
It just makes no fucking sense to me.
He has recognition for his music. Channel Orange was already a hyped release thanks to his earlier released mixtape, and sold quite well. His album has the most critical reception of the year. He is up for 6 grammys. It's clear people are listening to his music and are fucking enjoying it.
But somehow this is all invalidated because the media is playing on the social taboo of bisexuality/homosexuality and drawing focus to that, instead of his music. Because everyone knows the media talks about music and not who is dating who or who just had a breakdown.
It's a really fun song.
Who's talking about the quality of the music here? Well, obvious I think it's a completely overblown (boring shit) album, but I'm more or less discussing the guy's overall relevance. The conversation surrounding Frank Ocean seems to be about his sexuality and how brave his "coming out" was. This isn't something I'm concocting. It's becoming a pretty fair observation at this point, especially after things like that article Botty linked to that refers to Frank as a "rap superstar."
It's almost as if Frank's music is being praised because it HAS to be in order to fit the narrative. But I'll admit that I'm being very cynical with that.
Also sad that, since the comparison was made, I peeked at metacritic and noted that Miguel's brilliant album, while equally praised, has only been reviewed by 16 critics to Frank's 40+.
Both albums have been noted as high quality and genre-leading by the critics.
But one seems to get considerably more media attention. Wonder why that is...
Britney and Christina's music were popular in the media far more than their personal lives when they debuted. Want to know why? Because that is all the media had to go off of when they debuted. They both had young, sexy images, but that didn't stop the media from headlining them as the "Oops... I did it again girl," or the "Genie in the Bottle starlet." It has only been later in their lives, well after they reached legend status, that their personal lives have become the center of attention.
Frank Ocean on the other hand is always headlined as "the guy who came out on tumblr." It was perfectly timed before his album released, and with the vocal support of Beyonce... who is someone he worked with prior (interesting) to build hype and generate buzz. Continued by his choices to post shirtless pics of himself. These are all things Francis DID. He is the one who has turned his sexuality into a marketing ploy. Can't really be upset if people call him out on it, or if people observe that the media has tag-lined him as such.
And speaking of observations, that was all I did when I made that response to the news article. And when I responded to you the first time I didn't even mention his sexuality. His album is shit, he is this years band wagon fad (along with Lana), and if I were lying people would at least bring up what makes his music so good... instead of constantly putting "Pyramids" on repeat. But alas, you faux-Francis stans can't even exert enough energy to pretend to like any of his other songs.
Though Second did like Pink Matter, and based on those hot women he has been with... I don't blame him.
It must hurt seeing a new artist accomplish more artistically with their debut album than their loose-sphinctered fave has done in 13 years.
No one is arguing against the fact that his sexuality drew attention to him.
We are waiting for you to explain how an artist becoming a media spectacle for something other than their music is anything new, why we should give a fuck, the proof that he came out on purpose to be relevant, and how his sexuality makes his music received any better or worse than it is now, all of the above which he as been dragged for.
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