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[Mau ®]

I'm PRESSED that thread didnt last long. I wanted it to be a POP-GAF fest!

ch...

 

[Matt_]

MISS CAMARADERIE ‏@AZEALIABANKS 4m
BEFORE JUNE! RT @GodIsMikey: When will we hear ATM JAM @AZEALIABANKS?

She is coming to end the drought

 

[Dr. Malik]

1D's new album is done. Will be announced soon.

http://www.onebigannouncement.com/

Bless Queen Louis is cominG

you need to go post here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499308&page=18

 

[Icicle]

Why do people hate Madonna? Are there any actual reasons besides "she's old and she makes sexual pop music"?

The Anti-Madonna Discussion Board

Coming for Kween NeoGAF, tbh.

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There are so many reasons to hate Madonna, a two-part INDEX is necessary to keep track of them all.

Reasons to Hate Madonna "A-L"
Reasons to Hate Madonna "M-Z"

Spoiler

Has Phono returned from Banland yet?

 

[cory64]

The level of pressedness there...

Roy, have you started a site like that for Beyoncé?

 

[Trigger]

She is coming to end the drought

She is going to slay in July.

you need to go post here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499308&page=18

Noted.

 

[Aguila]

She is coming to end the drought

Now matt, haven't we learned that this hussy is not to be trusted when it comes to these matters.

 

[Matt_]

Now matt, haven't we learned that this hussy is not to be trusted when it comes to these matters.

 

[Dr. Malik]

 

[Aguila]

SO YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL!

 

[Styles]

lmfao

 

[Vazra]

SO YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL!

So young and beautiful ;_;

 

[Wafflecakes]

I guess what he means is that the poll respondents seem to be skewed towards a particular genre thus being biased.

I mean, we probably are in the minory that love rap and country almost equally.

I actually disagree. Among the general public there is a very small minority who actively dislikes country. Most are apathetic. Rap on the other hand has a (well earned) negative perception across the board imo.

 

[royalan]

I actually disagree. Among the general public there is a very small minority who actively dislikes country. Most are apathetic. Rap on the other hand has a (well earned) negative perception across the board imo.

Excuse you?
Don't make me get GAF-HOP.

 

[Wafflecakes]

1D's new album is done. Will be announced soon.

Yeah this was reported a few days ago on ATRL. Though most think that when he says "done" it means that the songs have been chosen. There is no way that it has all been recorded at this point, and they have a month off near the end of summer when they would be recording.

Excuse you?
Don't make me get GAF-HOP.

I have nothing against Rap, but don't try to pretend artist like Azaelia, Kanye, etc have not 100% earned their reputations.

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

I actually disagree. Among the general public there is a very small minority who actively dislikes country. Most are apathetic. Rap on the other hand has a (well earned) negative perception across the board imo.

Well earned eh?

 

[Artemisia]

HAIM
&#8207;@HAIMtheband

So sad that we cant make the upcoming vampire weekend dates&#55357;&#56874;Wish we could've been a part of it,but we r days away from finishing our record&#55357;&#56846;

release this shit in the summer you cunts

 

[Wafflecakes]

Well earned eh?

Yup. You can seethe about it though, and the public will continue seeing rap as the dregs of the music industry.

(I am not saying it is an accurate perception, but no effort is being made to change it either so I don't really feel bad for them.)

 

[royalan]

Yup. You can seethe about it though, and the public will continue seeing rap as the dregs of the music industry.

(I am not saying it is an accurate perception, but no effort is being made to change it either so I don't really feel bad for them.)

...you do realize that Hip-Hop albums are some of the most consistently best selling in the industry, right?

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

Yup. You can seethe about it though, and the public will continue seeing rap as the dregs of the music industry.

(I am not saying it is an accurate perception, but no effort is being made to change it either so I don't really feel bad for them.)

"They" only see it as dregs until a Macklemore or an Eminem comes along, then it's the best shit ever. But ok. I'll seethe.

 

[Matt_]

Yup. You can seethe about it though, and the public will continue seeing rap as the dregs of the music industry.

(I am not saying it is an accurate perception, but no effort is being made to change it either so I don't really feel bad for them.)

Ooh careful now

So I just got Rudimental - Home
I was expecting it to be more dubsteppy and dancey like Waiting All Nigt, but so far it's been really laid back with decent production and it's really good. Think some of you would really like it

Not Giving In (ft John Newman and Alex Clare and Baby (Ft. MNEK & Sinead Harnett definitely seem to capture the feel of the album better

I guess it's kind of grime? not really sure. Check them out anyway

 

[Artemisia]

Ooh careful now

this gif

I'm screaming. how apt.

 

[Trigger]

I C you opening a can of worms Waffle sis.

 

[Wafflecakes]

"They" only see it as dregs until a Macklemore of an Eminem comes along, then it's the best shit ever. But ok. I'll seethe.

Well, there is rap written for general audiences, then they is rap for people who listen to rap. The two are very different.

Country is the same. There is a BIG difference between Taylor Swift and someone like Sugarland. They both may be country, but that are aiming to accomplish very different things.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

I actually disagree. Among the general public there is a very small minority who actively dislikes country. Most are apathetic. Rap on the other hand has a (well earned) negative perception across the board imo.

Ha, what?

 

[Artemisia]

waffle sis

 

[Wafflecakes]

I am going to be honest about my perception of the situation. I am no coward who feels threatened because others disagree.

Suburbia feels threatened by Urban music.

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

Well, there is rap written for general audiences, then they is rap for people who listen to rap. The two are very different.

I am going to be honest about my perception of the situation. I am no coward who feels threatened because others disagree.

Suburbia feels threatened by Urban music.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Waffle, do you live somewhere where if someone raised a confederate flag it'd be met with ahootin an' ahollin' (the good kind) or in 1980 something?

 

[Matt_]

I'd probably say the 'reputation' rap has it because of where it comes from, not because of the person doing the rapping
I'd imagine some middle-upper class white mum who is overly involved in PTA meetings would see it as the music of the Ghetto and therefore something her little angels must be protected from

 

[Esch]

its all good rap doesnt need america or junior varsity popgaf members to approve of it

shoutout to the OGs tho

 

[Dr. Malik]

lmao at Royalan opening the floodgates

 

[Wafflecakes]

Gotta love cowards beating around the bush and hinting at shade or other issues rather than just posting how they disagree with my points. If you are not willing to have a discussion or actually point out WHY you think I am wrong on a point why are you wasting everyone's time?

My comment of "well earned" was probably not the correct phrase. From my perspective the genre has celebrated its perception as being controversial which turns some people off.


@Matt. That is essentially what I was trying to get at. We were discussing a POLL of peoples perceptions of various genres. Do people REALLY believe that rap has a better perception in the public eye than country?

 

[Matt_]

@Matt. That is essentially what I was trying to get at. We were discussing a POLL of peoples perceptions of various genres. Do people REALLY believe that rap has a better perception in the public eye than country?

Oh of course not
But I wouldn't say it's negatively viewed across the board and I certainly wouldn't blame the artists in the genre

Much more to do with a culture divide and ignorance of what rap actually is than the actual content of the genre

 

[royalan]

Gotta love cowards beating around the bush and hinting at shade or other issues rather than just posting how they disagree with my points. If you are not willing to have a discussion or actually point out WHY you think I am wrong on a point why are you wasting everyone's time?

My comment of "well earned" was probably not the correct phrase. From my perspective the genre has celebrated its perception as being controversial which turns some people off.


@Matt. That is essentially what I was trying to get at. We were discussing a POLL of peoples perceptions of various genres. Do people REALLY believe that rap has a better perception in the public eye than country?

Actually, yes. Although, I suppose it depends on where you're raised.

I was born and raised in Los Angeles - second largest city in the country. It wasn't AT ALL uncommon to hear people describe their music preferences as "anything but country" where I'm from. Same for a lot of liberal cities.

Rap, along with early Rock music, is often viewed as a harbinger of social discourse, change, and intellectual thought. Whereas country music is often associated with hillbillies, idiots, racists, and Republicans. I know that's largely untrue, but so is the idea that most people have a terrible perception of rap music.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Oh of course not
But I wouldn't say it's negatively viewed across the board and I certainly wouldn't blame the artists in the genre

Much more to do with a culture divide and ignorance of what rap actually is than the actual content of the genre

GifofMeNoddingInAgreement.gif

Actually, yes. Although, I suppose it depends on where you're raised.

I was born and raised in Los Angeles - second largest city in the country. It wasn't AT ALL uncommon to hear people describe their music preferences as "anything but country" where I'm from. Same for a lot of liberal cities.

Rap, along with early Rock music, is often viewed as a harbinger of social discourse, change, and intellectual thought. Whereas country music is often associated with hillbillies, idiots, racists, and Republicans. I know that's largely untrue, but so is the idea that most people have a terrible perception of rap music.

I'm in LA as well, and I can co-sign all of that.

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

Actually, yes. Although, I suppose it depends on where you're raised.

I was born and raised in Los Angeles - second largest city in the country. It wasn't AT ALL uncommon to hear people describe their music preferences as "anything but country" where I'm from. Same for a lot of liberal cities.

Rap, along with early Rock music, is often viewed as a harbinger of social discourse, change, and intellectual thought. Whereas country music is often associated with hillbillies, idiots, racists, and Republicans. I know that's largely untrue, but so is the idea that most people have a terrible perception of rap music.

No it ain't. I live in Texas though.

 

[Wafflecakes]

Oh of course not
But I wouldn't say it's negatively viewed across the board and I certainly wouldn't blame the artists in the genre

Much more to do with a culture divide and ignorance of what rap actually is than the actual content of the genre

I blame a couple artists (pop has the same problems now and again), but I agree that cultural divide is a BIG part of it.

 

[Mau ®]

So I just got Rudimental - Home
I was expecting it to be more dubsteppy and dancey like Waiting All Nigt, but so far it's been really laid back with decent production and it's really good. Think some of you would really like it

Not Giving In (ft John Newman and Alex Clare and Baby (Ft. MNEK & Sinead Harnett definitely seem to capture the feel of the album better

I guess it's kind of grime? not really sure. Check them out anyway

Thanks for the heads up!

I wasnt aware they had an album out now. I'll test it out on my morning run!

 

[Peru]

That new Katy B jam!!

 

[Matt_]

Actually, yes. Although, I suppose it depends on where you're raised.

I was born and raised in Los Angeles - second largest city in the country. It wasn't AT ALL uncommon to hear people describe their music preferences as "anything but country" where I'm from. Same for a lot of liberal cities.

Rap, along with early Rock music, is often viewed as a harbinger of social discourse, change, and intellectual thought. Whereas country music is often associated with hillbillies, idiots, racists, and Republicans. I know that's largely untrue, but so is the idea that most people have a terrible perception of rap music.

Kiiiiii
As a Brit looking in, this is me all over
Stereotypes are dumb.

I blame a couple artists (pop has the same problems now and again), but I agree that cultural divide is a BIG part of it.

Some artists are always to blame, but like you said every genre has certain people that spawn or embody the negative stereotypes that are attached to it
Be it the fakeness and autotune in pop, mindless noise in dubstep, metal bands doing animal sacrifice or rock stars being required to chuck a tv out a hotel window.

As I said, stereotypes are dumb, but unfortunately many people require them to be able to process things that are alien to them

 

[Dr. Malik]

but which one is more global, country or rap? lets take this to stan war levels

 

[Artemisia]

That new Katy B jam!!

I quite love it now. Amazing how my opinion on it changed in a few hours.

The dreamy sound in the verses is just... ;_;

 

[Trigger]

That new Katy B jam!!

What Love is Made Of? Eh, I really did feel like it was just Aaliyah rehashed and less amazing.

 

[Wafflecakes]

Actually, yes. Although, I suppose it depends on where you're raised.

I was born and raised in Los Angeles - second largest city in the country. It wasn't AT ALL uncommon to hear people describe their music preferences as "anything but country" where I'm from. Same for a lot of liberal cities.

Rap, along with early Rock music, is often viewed as a harbinger of social discourse, change, and intellectual thought. Whereas country music is often associated with hillbillies, idiots, racists, and Republicans. I know that's largely untrue, but so is the idea that most people have a terrible perception of rap music.

I think there is a difference between someone saying that they would never listen to a genre, and someone who actively thinks a genre is bad or "immoral" (for the lack of a better term), which is how rap and some other genres (Metal comes to mind) are perceived by suburban/religious communities.

I do not think country has the same stigma, or at least not to the same degree, among those who dislike it. Though that may be changing with overall liberalization the nation is going through on many social issues.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

but which one is more global, country or rap? lets take this to stan war levels

Does any country outside of The US give a shit about country music?

 

[Wafflecakes]

but which one is more global, country or rap? lets take this to stan war levels

Nice try. No one is stanning, it is a discussion. You should try it sometime.

 

[Dr. Malik]

Nice try. No one is stanning, it is a discussion. You should try it sometime.

pressed because rap is more global

 

[DMeisterJ]

I love rap. Drake is amazing. Speaking of Aubrey, Rih posted a picture on Instagram where she hash tagged the photo #nonewfriends, which if you do listen to rap music, is the name of the song that Drake sings the hook to.

Rih is stanning Drake again. *.*

 

[Matt_]

pressed because rap is more global

The UK has a country artist going into the Eurovision song contest.
When will rap?

Spoiler

she wont do well