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[Faddy]

Yeah, watching sky news too. That was complete bollocks.

I was watching channel 4. They have a Trump spinner on there, just an awful woman.

 

[Niks]

Trump has set his own bar so low that simply finishing the debate is a win.

Pretty much yeah.

 

[Compsiox]

Woah shocked to see all the Trump non-hate. Thought this was a much worse debate for him.

You could tell last time that he was going off his head and was unprepared.

He came armed and prefiring.

 

[Lord Frieza]

So I dozed off and missed most of the debate. I woke up and tuned it right when the Islamphobia question. Did Trump do a lot better than the first debate? From that point he seemed to be doing pretty bad. He was babbled a lot, and I think got into it with the moderators a few times over time limits. Didn't seem like it was going well for him. From what I saw, Hillary was probably less dominant than the first, but she seemed very much in control for the most part. I'm assuming I missed the questions in relation to the sexual stuff from Trump?

 

[ElectricThunder]

I feel my mind and spirit is in an even more precarious position for bearing witness to this debate than the last one---2016 and this is where we are at on so many things? Ugh...

 

[Version 3.0]

Barely mentioned? It was a big part of the beginning of the debate.

I edited. By the end, it felt like barely to me. Not enough, in any case.

 

[Aaronrules380]

ding ding ding

Anyone who cares about those things hasn't been undecided in a long time

 

[Slurpy2k20]

So I just heard that this debate audience were "undecideds", which explains how fucking stupid all of them seemed to be.

 

[Soulscribe]

Yikes that debate was so triggering. Hillary did great, Trump of course was a walking dumpster zombie with a mic.

 

[Rabbi_Vole]

Between the ad jealousy and the "she never quits, never gives up, she's a fighter" Donald surrendered his pretensions of Alpha nature to the stronger, fitter contender.

Not completely. He failed to roll on his back and piss himself.

 

[diaspora]

TRUMP / GIULIANI 2016

 

[excelsiorlef]

And this is why they both suck, not just Trump.

She called around half of America deplorable and people think she'll be a good president(better than Trump, but still...)

She called about 20% of America deplorable.

And that's factual

 

[FlutterPuffs]

Serious question GAF. If you found loopholes to avoid paying a ton of taxes would you use them? That's the one thing I can't blame the guy on. I'd probably do it.

If Im making millions? I would pay at least a large percentage of it back to the government. The money needs to roll back in for the good of everyone.

 

[shintoki]

Like I said, what can you say nice about Trump? That's like asking what the math is behind making a SpaceX rocket work.

I said earlier. If you wanted to say family, say "The love for his kids" comes across much better. It's a complete bullshit question, but it's also what a lot of people look for in the "Would you want to have a beer with this person". And as I said, it's a bullshit question... but you still need to put a bit of thought into it since there are many people out there who can be swayed by it.

Basically it was a test question and probably the only I felt Hill failed at while Trump surprisingly passed.

 

[Frustrated_me]

Trump disagrees with Mike about a policy.

SHOCKING.

Like ffs, this happens all the time with the White Office, Pentagon, CIA and NSA.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Saying a soldier would still be alive under his leadership.

Admitting he hasn't spoken to his running mate.

Totally floundering on the Sexual Assault tape.

Talking about using Chinese steel.

Also admitting that he absolutely used the tax loophole the NY Times suggested he could have used. Now the "hasn't paid income tax in 20 years" line has verification from his own mouth.

 

[Polioliolio]

Hacker?

 

[Loxley]

Drumpf was terrible in the beginning but got "better" than the very very low bar he set for himself. Clinton held her chin up, looked shaky when on the defense, but didn't try to go for any killing blow. Overall, Drumpf fucked up way too many times to change the race and there will be plenty of ammo to use against him in the post-debate spin.

I think maybe it's perhaps because she got flack for trying to take on Trump at his own "gotcha" game during the first debate, so this time around she just didn't bother and played it safe.

 

[brandonh83]

While I admire Trump's final comments, it's hard to believe a liar, an actor, and a bullshitter in general. But it sure sounded good.

 

[JPLMD]

Think Trump took it, but won't matter. The amount of disastrous stuff that has happened to him in the past 48 hours will not be covered up just because he did slightly better tonight.

 

[Ekai]

Why are some of you feeling sorry for us? My perspective is that since Hillary doesn't hate immigrants, minorities and the lgbt community (and then a host of other issues...), you don't know what you're saying!

This is why "Both Sides" mentalities ala SP piss me off so much.
It takes immense privilege to even have the audacity to say that both sides are the same.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Trump has set his own bar so low that simply finishing the debate is a win.

That's the only possible explanation I can think of why anyone would say he won.

 

[RiZ III]

he doesnt deserve props, he acted like the vile piece of shit he always acted and went low every chance he could get., He is doing a press tour with rape victims right now. Get fucked any fucking piece of shit asshole that supports Trump.

Well said.

 

[B-Dubs]

So I dozed off and missed most of the debate. I woke up and tuned it right when the Islamphobia question. Did Trump do a lot better than the first debate? From that point he seemed to be doing pretty bad. He was babbled a lot, and I think got into it with the moderators a few times over time limits. Didn't seem like it was going well for him. From what I saw, Hillary was probably less dominant than the first, but she seemed very much in control for the most part. I'm assuming I missed the questions in relation to the sexual stuff from Trump?

It was honestly about the same as last time, only he did it in reverse this time.

 

[Totakeke]

For people who said it was a tie, were you judging both candidates equally or were you judging by how Trump is good at being Trump and how good Hillary is at being Hillary?

Otherwise I must question your listening skills because one guy was rambling all debate long and the other was actually attempting to answer the questions asked in the context of the person who asked them.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

give trump his props people.

What the fuck for?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Serious question GAF. If you found loopholes to avoid paying a ton of taxes would you use them? That's the one thing I can't blame the guy on. I'd probably do it.

If I did it, I wouldn't then turn around and run for President on the idea that doing it is ruining this country. It's not that he does it that makes him look like a fucking dipshit, it's the hypocrisy.

 

[Toxi]

ding ding ding

No we gotta ask what the candidates' favorite color is

 

[CosmicQueso]

I feel like I need a shower. I feel gross.

 

[smurfx]

if Pence drops out i totally called it.

if this happens i can only hope he overlooks christie again and goes with somebody else as his vp. he can be similar to carly fiorina and be a double loser in the same campaign season.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Serious question GAF. If you found loopholes to avoid paying a ton of taxes would you use them? That's the one thing I can't blame the guy on. I'd probably do it.

If it was legal? Sure.

The difference is that I'm not an (alleged) billionaire who's running for President.

 

[Ithil]

I missed some of the debate. Apparently Trump threw Pence under the bus? What did he say?

Moderator brought up Pence's words on Russia and Syria from the VP debate which totally were at odds with Trump's stated positions. Trump just said "I haven't talked to him, I don't agree".

Moderator seemed in disbelief asking "You disagree with your own running mate?".

 

[HotHamBoy]

How the hell was that a win for him? Did you listen to any of his actual answers?

No. That's why he "won."

 

[mreddie]

And Trump threw a fit for nothing

Lindy West ‏@thelindywest 2m2 minutes ago
so trump talked for 40:10 & clinton talked for 39:05, yet he threw 47 tantrums about not getting equal time. men think equality = oppression

 

[gaugebozo]

Confused why some people think Trump won or is a draw, Hillary clearly got more substance in her answers

Oh you sweet, sweet, child. I remember when I thought debates were about substance.

 

[Metroidvania]

The Clintons and Trumps have rubbed shoulders for years. They have to have some link if they have been so friendly for decades.

Overall I feel the debate was generally bad. Hillary screwed up by getting into the mud with Trump. She should have just played it straight and talked to the audience. Trump was Trump and I feel came out no worse but didn't improve either.

Yeah, there was a bit 'too much' getting into the mud. I recognize that you have to rebut the awful lies coming out of Trump's mouth, but continually spouting off your branded fact-checker (instead of someone potentially less biased), but the constant Donald=Russia comments weren't delivered with enough heat/substance to make them 'real', ended up coming off kind of tacky, a bit.

edit: To be fair, Trump destroyed himself on policy, and his base isn't big enough, no matter how incited they get, to give him a win, but the 'style' of Trump (the brashness, etc..) is what some people are going to remember.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

How could anyone think Trump won that debate or that it was even a draw, good lord. Dude spent like half of it melting down, acting like a child, and giving non-answers. The low standard people hold him to is absolutely crazy.

 

[Gurrry]

I think its bullshit that Johnson doesnt get a chance to debate.

 

[Gaogaogao]

give trump his props people.

why? for being a piece of human garbage? not even pence likes him.

 

[Xilo]

Yikes that debate was so triggering. Hillary did great, Trump of course was a walking dumpster zombie with a mic.

Hillary definitely did not do great. It should have been a slam dunk night for her and she played defense all night. I'm disappointed in her after her win in the first debate.

 

[ColdPizza]

Crossposted from poligaf:

I think Hillary has a serious problem with being unable to actually attack Donald.

He brings up Bill's problems, she deflects to talk about how much he sucks without actually addressing his statements on bill.

She doesn't do enough to point out how horseshit this whole email scandal is and is just trying to squeak by saying "I know I fucked up, wouldn't do it again"

She's got mad policy skills, but she shouldn't keep trying to tank all those hits, especially since she has bigger issues trying to communicate her meaningful and therefore complex policies while Trump works in soundbites that mean nothing but are easier to digest.

Oh man. I really hope the polls end up vindicating her, but after this spectacular weekend, I expected to see a televised verbal murder happen on stage. Instead, Raddatz chewed him out over his bullshit more than she did.

She needs to keep touting all of the good things she has done rather than worry about the zingers. It doesn't play well.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Trump disagrees with Mike about a policy.

SHOCKING.

Like ffs, this happens all the time with the White Office, Pentagon, CIA and NSA.

Tell us why Trump was substantive tonight, bring specifics. How often did he lie?

 

[Krejlooc]

give trump his props people.

I thought he came off looking like a petty maniac. I was frankly shocked at the venom he spat. I don't want a person in charge who has that sort of anger for his political opponents in front of a national audience.

I cannot believe anybody thinks Trump looks better after this debate.

 

[J_Viper]

From the Dark Souls Character Creator

 

[Damaniel]

Two pundits on Sky News saying it was a draw... I don't even. Not a Clinton fan but out of the two options it has to be her. Has this genuinely not affected Trump in the states?

If the consensus is that it ended up a draw, then that's perfectly fine - Trump needed to win big and he really didn't. Throwing Pence under the bus might come back to hurt him though.

 

[RoKKeR]

Hillary was fine, not great. Trump was erratic add vile. Doubt it will change much, the tapes will remain.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

He was incoherent for 40 minutes
He didnt describe any policy
He lied at an incredible rate
He hurled insults and interruptions
He suggested he would have her political opponent jailed

If any of you think he won, you are either insane or you watch too much anime

 

[Ekai]

Think Drumpf took it, but won't matter. The amount of disastrous stuff that has happened to him in the past 48 hours will not be covered up just because he did slightly better tonight.

He was nothing but a petulant child who lied non-stop. He avoided questions, stumped speched, went over his time all the time, etc. etc. He lost and he lost hard.

 

[RDreamer]

How is this shit a draw? How the fuck do you even debate someone who's so loose with the truth anymore? Do you just have to calmly be a fucking shitlord nowadays to win?

 

[Garlador]

I sleep on it and see how things are in the morning.

I thought Hillary was only okay, while Trump was... predictable and met his low, low, low expectations.

That kind of skewed measurement makes it hard to compare what should, logically, be Trump as a walking, incoherent disaster and Hillary with a clean win.