mr_sockochris
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A bit harsh, 2012 had various dlc and 2013 had about 6 data pack updates which included roster updates, new boots, new stadiums, new kids and gameplay improvements so to be fair to Konami they have been trying recently.
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Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 |OT| The King Is Dead, Long Live The King!
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A bit harsh, 2012 had various dlc and 2013 had about 6 data pack updates which included roster updates, new boots, new stadiums, new kids and gameplay improvements so to be fair to Konami they have been trying recently.
This! This whole generation has been depressive, but finally Konami delivers.
After struggling to enjoy the FIFA 14 demo (and having played 100+ hrs of FIFA 13) the PES 2014 demo was a revelation.
Master League, good to have you back. Curious about how the online head2head is, that's what I spent most of my FIFA time on.
eso76
Member
I swear, every year it's the same
2010
"yes, i know, I know, i said the same thing last year, but this time it's true ! Finally, PES really is better than FIFA !"
2011
"yes, i know, I know, i said the same thing last year, but this time it's true ! Finally, PES really is better than FIFA !"
2012
"yes, i know, I know, i said the same thing last year, but this time it's true ! Finally, PES really is better than FIFA !"
2013
"yes, i know, I know, i said the same thing last year, but this time it's true ! Finally, PES really is better than FIFA !"
I have no idea, i just think Fox Engine is the most 'next gen' thing i've seen.
2010
"yes, i know, I know, i said the same thing last year, but this time it's true ! Finally, PES really is better than FIFA !"
2011
"yes, i know, I know, i said the same thing last year, but this time it's true ! Finally, PES really is better than FIFA !"
2012
"yes, i know, I know, i said the same thing last year, but this time it's true ! Finally, PES really is better than FIFA !"
2013
"yes, i know, I know, i said the same thing last year, but this time it's true ! Finally, PES really is better than FIFA !"
I have no idea, i just think Fox Engine is the most 'next gen' thing i've seen.
PapaJustify
Member
Gotta say that contrary to the earlier years, this year the demo is really growing on me. And some of the animations and the general presentation is so much superior to FIFA.
If they only had the licenses...
If they only had the licenses...
The past few years I deleted the demo in disgust. But yeah, now it plays really well.
Reminds me of FIFA in 2009, there is a lot of flaws but you just feel that something is now right under the hood on which they can build.
Despite the lack of licenses, I'm probably buying both this year.
Last PES (and football) game I bought was PES 2011. As much as I really enjoyed the gameplay, I always found it slightly frustrating that the game had this habit of not doing exactly what you wanted all the time. Not passing to the player in obvious space but the guy next to him surrounded by defenders, things like that.
Playing the 2014 demo, not only is the gameplay smooth, natural and rewarding, everything just...works. No more frustrating misfires - the game just seems to understand what you're trying to do and if you miss a shot or misdirect a pass, it's YOUR fault.
I'm so looking forward to this iteration. More customisable leagues means more Master League depth, unlimited emblem slots is a great move and the Fox engine makes the core experience feel really fresh. Time to dive back into the world of football gaming.
Playing the 2014 demo, not only is the gameplay smooth, natural and rewarding, everything just...works. No more frustrating misfires - the game just seems to understand what you're trying to do and if you miss a shot or misdirect a pass, it's YOUR fault.
I'm so looking forward to this iteration. More customisable leagues means more Master League depth, unlimited emblem slots is a great move and the Fox engine makes the core experience feel really fresh. Time to dive back into the world of football gaming.
Surprising news - Japan national team is unlicensed (fake names, kits) but... not in the Japanese version, where everything's ok.
The speed settings are there, from -2 to 2.
The overall rating in Master League will not go over 99.
There's Club World Cup in ML. And as a coach of a national team you can participate in all continental cups.
Stadium List:
Licensed
Old Trafford
Wembley Stadium
Allianz Arena
Guiseppe Meazza
San Siro
Juventus Stadium
Estádio da Luz
Stade de France
Estadio Urbano Caldeira
Estádio do Morumbi
El Monumental
King Fahd International Stadium
Saitama Stadium 2002
Generic
Konami Stadium
Royal London Stadium
Burg Stadion
Estadio de Escorpião
Estadio del Nuevo Triunfo
The disc looks like this:
The speed settings are there, from -2 to 2.
The overall rating in Master League will not go over 99.
There's Club World Cup in ML. And as a coach of a national team you can participate in all continental cups.
Stadium List:
Licensed
Old Trafford
Wembley Stadium
Allianz Arena
Guiseppe Meazza
San Siro
Juventus Stadium
Estádio da Luz
Stade de France
Estadio Urbano Caldeira
Estádio do Morumbi
El Monumental
King Fahd International Stadium
Saitama Stadium 2002
Generic
Konami Stadium
Royal London Stadium
Burg Stadion
Estadio de Escorpião
Estadio del Nuevo Triunfo
The disc looks like this:
not played football games in a few years
I love the way PES 14 demo feels, animates and plays - seems so real life like
I then played the FIFA 14 demo - the presentation and commentary is miles ahead but just did not have the same feel as PES 14.
For next year PES need to go next gen graphics, improve on any AI issues/bugs from this year and spend time on presentation and mainly the commentary
I love the way PES 14 demo feels, animates and plays - seems so real life like
I then played the FIFA 14 demo - the presentation and commentary is miles ahead but just did not have the same feel as PES 14.
For next year PES need to go next gen graphics, improve on any AI issues/bugs from this year and spend time on presentation and mainly the commentary
Option files are your friend
BlackIronCount
Member
did WE have them on disc or would it be a dlc like last year?
It was DLC last year? I don't remember that. What they did was update the NT kit in January, but the team was already licensed from the getgo.
Rumour going around WENB is that it will be indeed DLC. A J-League DLC pack for the EU and US copies of the game would be wonderful too.
Here's hoping.
Next week is gonna be painful, so much work and PES and GTA coming out.
Just a small bit so you guys don't get confused, the 3rd kit DLC is restricted to those teams, most other teams in the game feature 3rd kits regardless.
And all the 3rd kits from pre-order and classic team kits will be available for free after a small time.
If you're simply taking into account European and US numbers, then sure. Even if some territories remain loyal to the brand, such as Spain and Italy.
But in Asia and South America, FIFA is not even a factor.
I think PES 2014 sales numbers will be interesting. Especially in Europe, we'll see.
A week before FIFA was probably the reasoning.
They always get the game out before Fifa dont they just this year it coincides with the Juggernaut which is GTA V.
BlackIronCount
Member
Great. I really appreciate this. Having stats over 120 after a few years of ML for Ronaldo and Messi and even higher with boots and training boosts was unrealistic and annoying.
ShellyDeKiller
Member
Surprising news - Japan national team is unlicensed (fake names, kits) but... not in the Japanese version, where everything's ok.
The speed settings are there, from -2 to 2.
The overall rating in Master League will not go over 99.
There's Club World Cup in ML. And as a coach of a national team you can participate in all continental cups.
Stadium List:
Licensed
Old Trafford
Wembley Stadium
Allianz Arena
Guiseppe Meazza
San Siro
Juventus Stadium
Estádio da Luz
Stade de France
Estadio Urbano Caldeira
Estádio do Morumbi
El Monumental
King Fahd International Stadium
Saitama Stadium 2002
Generic
Konami Stadium
Royal London Stadium
Burg Stadion
Estadio de Escorpião
Estadio del Nuevo Triunfo
The disc looks like this:
WTF? only 13 licensed stadiums?
THEY LOST ESTÁDIO DO DRAGÃO?????
Even fucking Alvalade. WTF???
The chicken's stadium is the only portuguese stadium in the game??? Fuck this, man.
I usually don't give licenses that much importance,but not this. Not like this.
No day 1 buy anymore. Will wait to see what they do with the stupid DLCs
I feel like I make this post every year, but the last footy game I bought was PES10, which I enjoyed, but it certainly did not grab me the way PS2-era PES's did. I've never enjoyed playing FIFA, despite it coming along leaps and bounds this generation.
As a result, I've not really spent any time playing footy games. I've got this years demo installed on the PS3 - as soon as the TV frees up I'll be giving it a bash, but while I wait I have one quick question for those more loyal than I:
Are Castolo/Minanda/Espimas etc still the default players in the Master League these days?
As a result, I've not really spent any time playing footy games. I've got this years demo installed on the PS3 - as soon as the TV frees up I'll be giving it a bash, but while I wait I have one quick question for those more loyal than I:
Are Castolo/Minanda/Espimas etc still the default players in the Master League these days?
I would like to take a moment to thank https://twitter.com/Adam_Bhatti for his kindness. he has sent myself and Paul two promotional copies of the game just because we worked on the OT. It really came out of nowhere, I simply messaged him on Twitter a couple of times for info on the game and then forwarded him this thread. Very generous of him and Konami to do this for two guys on the internet who are not part of the press at all.
Thanks a lot, Adam. It is very appreciated. And also thanks to this place for being big enough to justify this sort of thing.
Thanks a lot, Adam. It is very appreciated. And also thanks to this place for being big enough to justify this sort of thing.
I think sales will still be not so great in Europe.
Even if this year game is great (i think it is) you cannot simply cancel six-seven years of disappointments.
Just Pes 2013 and now Pes 2014 are the real Pes to me on Ps3 and 360
Besides, online.
I pray for an excellent online,that is fundamental for the sales,since most people pay exclusively online.
Online in previous Pes has been pretty mediocre
Even if this year game is great (i think it is) you cannot simply cancel six-seven years of disappointments.
Just Pes 2013 and now Pes 2014 are the real Pes to me on Ps3 and 360
Besides, online.
I pray for an excellent online,that is fundamental for the sales,since most people pay exclusively online.
Online in previous Pes has been pretty mediocre
ShellyDeKiller
Member
PES 2010 is actually the PES game I enjoyed the most on current-gen (excluding the almighty Wii versions)
I missed the faces in that game.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Who is getting the game for which platform?
Hundreds of faces will be added to the game post launch, it is simply an issue of re-making the assets as opposed to using the old ones, the engine does not allow it, so that's why we have a lot of key player faces missing that you probably didn't expect.
Also, OFs do have the ability to fix faces as well.
Post launch.
Also, OFs do have the ability to fix faces as well.
Post launch.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
As long as Carl Jenkinson's face is in, then I'm buying the game.
I don't think I'd mind this if true (unless the game was a lot faster) - game speed settings should let everyone adjust to a speed they're comfortable with anyway.
My one main complaint with the demo was that first time shots seem very difficult to do - the vast majority of the time the player will still take a touch before shooting, sometimes giving the defender enough time to close him down in the process. If responsiveness was improved there so first time shots are possible if the shoot command was input before the ball reaches the player, then great.
Day one patch coming with a lot of improvements made to various gameplay areas. One being keepers, the other shooting and cursor switching.
Hehe, I see what you did there
All good areas for improvement - keepers at the moment are a little too prone to just watching shots fly by them, even though that's quite a rare occurrence in reality. They've been massively improved though, the double save animations especially are brilliant. Always room for improvement with keepers though, and that goes for both series, so I'm glad to see it's being addressed.
People keep whining that the catch-up bug from last year is present, I have seen nothing of the sort in my almost 6 hours of demo play time. I'm going to bed at 3 AM just to play this game and get up at 8 :lol.
I also read mentions of improvements made to the Superstar difficulty.
cripterion
Member
lol.
Is that where the defenders will catch up even if your striker is in the clear? I can't say I've noticed it but I'd need to play more to be sure. It seems to be very dependant on stats such as pace this year, which is good, and of course on starting position relative to the defender.
I'm sat here on my lunch break at work looking forward to getting home and playing the demo :lol good to feel like this about PES again!
I felt this wasn't just for shooting, but for passing and movement as well. It almost felt like an input lag where things don't respond at the exact moment I press them. I don't know if this was intentional design choice or just a problem with demo.
Yeah. I think it's definitely stat based this year, a lot of the issue seems to stem from the fact that people don't know how to properly sprint. If you really wanna speed past players, get a fast player like Ronaldo and double tap the sprinting button.
Inertia and momentum, really.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Yeah, first time passing seems needs to be decided upon almost instantly.
Something to get used to.
Something to get used to.
i think regarding the catch up bug, one thing that PES has always had is a noticeable difference in speed comparing the dribbler to someone without the ball, hence why the dash dribble kicks the ball so much further ahead.
i wonder if perhaps people are mistaking "catch up bug" for a situation where the defender is just too close to the attacker. i did notice on occasional through balls that the defender would catch up, nut not every one. however there is always a chance one will only see the latter situation
i wonder if perhaps people are mistaking "catch up bug" for a situation where the defender is just too close to the attacker. i did notice on occasional through balls that the defender would catch up, nut not every one. however there is always a chance one will only see the latter situation
Haha, oh man. Rafael looks like Tak Fuji. It's glorious.
And this demo is abit of alright. Some of the old PES is still there (CPU always recovers from their animations just that quicker than you do and there is still the odd time where you swear you've timed your input for the first-touch pass or volley, only for your player to control it instead), but it's a mighty fine demo all the same.
The new 'advanced' through ball is a thing of beauty too, most of the time. The only hang up I have with it when I want a 5yd through ball, where in basic mode a tap of triangle would be perfect, but on advanced I have to place it and tap it even lighter. But with more practice, oh man oh man it's a ripper.
And this demo is abit of alright. Some of the old PES is still there (CPU always recovers from their animations just that quicker than you do and there is still the odd time where you swear you've timed your input for the first-touch pass or volley, only for your player to control it instead), but it's a mighty fine demo all the same.
The new 'advanced' through ball is a thing of beauty too, most of the time. The only hang up I have with it when I want a 5yd through ball, where in basic mode a tap of triangle would be perfect, but on advanced I have to place it and tap it even lighter. But with more practice, oh man oh man it's a ripper.
ibu
Member
Ha! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that, I howled in delight at the sight of him.
Awaiting my press copy now, will post a link to the review when I'm done.
Eanan
Member
Xbox probably, but want to see what the steam version is like and if its much cheaper.
No, wishful thinking as of now.