The second mission in the military dlc for Gravity Rush where you are putting out fires was the worst gaming experience I've had in years. It was simply awful in every single possible way. I don't think I've ever wanted to throw a $250 device against a wall as badly as I did playing that rubbish.
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PS Vita general discussion thread, part 4 | "Summer 2012"
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Ben Morales
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LMAO
One of these things are not like the other ones not like the other ones not like the other ones
DiscoJer
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While true, it could be in time to get some of the later DLC. If BL2 has as much as the first did it will probably have several things spread out over a year or more.
But the Vita really needs games like Borderlands - not just games people (besides Sony fans) actually want to play, but games that are timesinks, that will keep people playing the Vita, not just beat a game in 5 hours and put the Vita in a drawer next to their PSP. (I'm afraid that's going to be the fate of the AC Vita game)
frAntic_Frog
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vita
those "owners" need to just save themselves the trouble and put that vita they say they own on craigslist and sell it now before it becomes more worthless in value
well it's certainly more likely than becoming a system for Western games. as if Western
non-indie
The Grim Heaper
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Games are still coming out on the PSP in Japan. That system has to die first, unfortunately.
Just give me the original two. 3/New Vegas were buggy messes.
For what? To sell 300,000 copies? Porting existing assets would involve less time. Creating a new game for a struggling system? That would be insane.
Part of the problem with making such a powerful piece of hardware is that you need console-level funding to create a quality game for it, and if there's not a chance in hell of that title reaching 1 million in sales, then where's the benefit to the developer? Especially when the price of that "near console-level game" is only $40 vice $60.
That's part of the reason that this system is more port-happy. Take existing assets that have been paid for by people paying $60 and port it to a system to generate more revenue at $40 per game to add to it. Generating exclusive assets to sell to a small userbase at $40 a pop when it takes nearly as much development muscle as that $60 game system is not worth it.
Ben Morales
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Yeah, it was pretty unplayable for me too.
In happier news, Foosball is surprisingly fun! Controls are really good and there are a bunch of unlockable goodies.
eighty(one)
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I agree with this. For Vita to appeal to mainstream gamers (which means more mass appeal/success), Sony will need what you've outline above. It's apparent the exclusives like Gravity Rush/Daze aren't doing Vita any good. Those games aren't selling all that well. If the Vita is to breakthrough and see success, it must target mainstream gamers, as well as enthusiasts. The system won't succeed on the backs of obscure Japanese titles.
Apparently, it was Capcom who approached Nintendo about MH 3DS, during the Wii Tri game.
DR2K
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Eh they have Pokemon, I doubt they paid a cent for MH that Sony couldn't. It was more of a blow to Vita in Japan than a gain for 3DS.
All this silliness about them not having money, they already secured 2 new games from 2 of the biggest 3rd parties on the planet. Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty.
hmmmm, well the price is right. I'm not exactly what you would call a "foosball fan" so I guess I'll try the demo.
I had really bad lag once until I realized I had PS3 downloading at the same time.CecilMcW00t said:Yeah, it was pretty unplayable for me too.
That said after playing quite a lot of matches to get the final trophy - the bad-lagging ones are in minority - also since gameplay style of VT is pretty lag-tolerant (there's inherent "lag" in everything you do in single player too), it generally works ok.
Definitely a lot of room for improvement in online mode though.
Ben Morales
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Yeah, if it wasn't for the demo and the recommendation from another friend, I would have most likely ignored it.
It must be my internet then. The lag is bad enough that there's a noticeable delay between hitting buttons and my character reacting and I've had the game freeze for a second. Couple that with the fact that I have slow reflexes anyway and it's not much fun.
I really hope they aren't banking entirely on CoD and AC to charge sales. I remain unconvinced that these are the types of games which will get people to buy a Vita.
The most damning thing for Vita is that none of the PSP's most successful franchises have been announced for it. There were AC and CoD games on that platform and they did jack all. PSP's best sellers list consists of Monster Hunter, Gran Turismo, and Grand Theft Auto. One of those three is going to happen eventually, the other two? Yeah...
This actually isn't true. Sony Bend said Vita game budgets will be closer to PSP games than PS3 games due to reuse of assets. Naughty Dog lent a huge chunk of their animations and such to Bend saving them time and money. I can't imagine Assassin's Creed: Liberation is very expensive either given it clearly is lifting stuff straight out of AC3, and in fact runs on the same engine. When Sony was bringing Vita to developers conferences and stuff like that the point they'd often stress is this: reuse old content not for ports but to make something new. By doing that you are not only creating a compelling package for consumers, you are also saving money.
This actually isn't true. Sony Bend said Vita game budgets will be closer to PSP games than PS3 games due to reuse of assets. Naughty Dog lent a huge chunk of their animations and such to Bend saving them time and money. I can't imagine Assassin's Creed: Liberation is very expensive either given it clearly is lifting stuff straight out of AC3, and in fact runs on the same engine. When Sony was bringing Vita to developers conferences and stuff like that the point they'd often stress is this: reuse old content not for ports but to make something new. By doing that you are not only creating a compelling package for consumers, you are also saving money.
DR2K
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If these games can't do it, then there's really nothing that can.
The problem is they're too similar to console games, and more importantly releasing at around the same time as their PS3 counterparts. Nothing about this seems like a good idea.
Vita needs its own niche.
Imagine if Nintendo were releasing NSMB2 in November instead of August. :/
and even in August it feels a bit like too much, too soon
then why Capcom wouldn't announce a monster hunter for vita?
they sold millions of copies on psp and vita is clearly the perfect monster hunter machine... it doesn't make any sense to me
Either Nintendo signed up an exclusivity contract or sony dropped the ball in some way
BlazingDarkness
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I'll be shocked if they don't decide to change the date, it'll probably end up releasing a little after, or even before, AC3
I really doubt Nintendo moneyhatted Capcom. They're known for ignoring third parties, not bribing them. Sounds like Capcom just threw their lot in with the handheld they thought would be more successful. Ironically, these actions may have played a part in ensuring that.
They always had a good relationship with Nintendo, remember Capcom 5. And the 3DS was clearly the best choice from the start.
DR2K
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Cheaper to make on the 3DS where they can reuse Wii and PSP assets. Whereas it's more expensive on the Vita which has a much smaller userbase than the PSP did when the first MH released. When Vita picks up they'll probably have something to announce.
Niether have happened. 3DS is the platform the next MH would sell the most, and be the cheapest to make. We've all seen how horribly shitty MH4 looks, they're obviously going for as small of a budget as possible.
"may"? I'm fairly certain Sony sold more than a million PSPs in the month Monster Hunter Portable 3rd was released, lol. Sony definitely tried to appease Capcom. When they unveiled Vita the very first PSP game ever demoed just so happened to be MHP3rd. The first PSP game in the PSP Remaster series for PS3 just so happened to be MHP3rd. In fact, SCEJ even made an exclusive PSP that featured an improved analog stick and an extended battery just for you guessed it, MHP3rd.
Ubisoft's really handling Liberation very poorly. A lot of people I know think it's the exact same game just with a girl instead of Connor. I guess that's what happens when you give the game literally a minute of screen time at E3.
well, yes, but what I meant was, there's no guarantee Vita would have sold more than 3DS even if it had MonHun
With the way things are now, I can't imagine a different scenario
No. I believe we found out that Cellius began development of Ridge Racer in early 2011, which explains why that game turned out like it did. While Bend began development of Golden Abyss relatively soon after Resistance Retribution wrapped up they were using PS3 devkits, as were many of the early SCE Vita games.
RpgN
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Thanks for the videos you come up with once in a while. You're also getting better at commenting on them, you just need to work on the quiet moments. Sometimes it feels like you're spacing out for a second which might be without you noticing at that time. And sometimes you don't sound loud enough to hear what you're trying to say. But yeah, you're getting the hang of it and sounding more comfortable the more videos you make, keep it up
Ps. I got Crimson Gem Saga and Hexyz Force thanks to your videos. Now Puddles and Wizorb look pretty interesting too and will keep track of them.
You know, I've thought about this too but everyday that MHP3rd G isn't announced is another day I don't think this will happen. Especially since it's likely God Eater 2 is going to be this fall with a Vita SKU, and SCE creating their own proper MH response in Soul Sacrifice.
Gemüsepizza
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Why is this thread on page 3? ;-)
Spent some time with Motorstorm RC today. I finished 22% of the trophies and reached at least one medal on each event. I am not very happy with this game. Graphics and art style are good, sound was acceptable (except the music), but I really don't like the high difficulty. Some events can be really frustrating. I think the physics are a little bit too much, and the game mechanics are not really forgiving, it didn't make a lot of fun in the end, that's why I uninstalled it. I will never understand why some game designers rather make their games too hard then make them a little bit too easy. I hope LittleBigPlanet Karting will be easier, but I fear they will include a lot of these social crap trophies like "Share your map 100 times with your friends". *sigh*
I also played FIFA Soccer/Football on my Vita. It was my first football game and it was ok, not really great, but ok. I am not really a big football fan, maybe that's why I was not very enthusiastic about it. I lost nearly all my interest to invest additional time in this game when I found out about the trophy glitch, I have reached 45% trophies at this time. I thought about putting some pressure on EA by making a blog and a facebook group, writing their PR guys etc. etc., but I am not so sure it is worth it. I am inclined to just forget about this game and EA Sports games in general, and I don't think I will buy FIFA 13. I don't know.
Two games I enjoyed very much on my Vita were Mutant Blobs Attack and Plants vs Zombies, both really, really good games and worth every Cent. I completed both with 100% trophies. I also have Velocity on my Vita, but I did not play it yet because it has no trophies.
Next I will probably pick up Uncharted: Golden Abyss (finally), it seems to be very similar to the other parts of the Uncharted series, which means I will have a lot of fun. Another game I will probably get is Resistance: Burning Skies. It seems to be quite fun and it has an easy platinum trophy.
Besides games, I use my Vita a lot for music videos and movie trailers. Vimeo seems to be a good source for high quality videos, I found there many stunning videos which look very good on the Vita, for example:
Move
The Aurora
The Mountain
There also are many music videos on Vimeo which I havent found in good quality on Youtube. It seems the producers / directors of these videos are uploading them by themselves on Vimeo. Here are some which I have on my Vita to demonstrate what the display is capable of:
Coldplay - Every Teardrop is a Waterfall
Kanye West - All of the Lights
Beyonce - 1+1
J. Cole - Nobody's Perfect
I downloaded them by using this site, but I guess there are others who can do the same. Because the Vita has no folders yet, I decided to sort the files by using prefixes like "MUSIC" for music videos or "TRAILER" for trailers etc, looks quite good.
Spent some time with Motorstorm RC today. I finished 22% of the trophies and reached at least one medal on each event. I am not very happy with this game. Graphics and art style are good, sound was acceptable (except the music), but I really don't like the high difficulty. Some events can be really frustrating. I think the physics are a little bit too much, and the game mechanics are not really forgiving, it didn't make a lot of fun in the end, that's why I uninstalled it. I will never understand why some game designers rather make their games too hard then make them a little bit too easy. I hope LittleBigPlanet Karting will be easier, but I fear they will include a lot of these social crap trophies like "Share your map 100 times with your friends". *sigh*
I also played FIFA Soccer/Football on my Vita. It was my first football game and it was ok, not really great, but ok. I am not really a big football fan, maybe that's why I was not very enthusiastic about it. I lost nearly all my interest to invest additional time in this game when I found out about the trophy glitch, I have reached 45% trophies at this time. I thought about putting some pressure on EA by making a blog and a facebook group, writing their PR guys etc. etc., but I am not so sure it is worth it. I am inclined to just forget about this game and EA Sports games in general, and I don't think I will buy FIFA 13. I don't know.
Two games I enjoyed very much on my Vita were Mutant Blobs Attack and Plants vs Zombies, both really, really good games and worth every Cent. I completed both with 100% trophies. I also have Velocity on my Vita, but I did not play it yet because it has no trophies.
jk
Next I will probably pick up Uncharted: Golden Abyss (finally), it seems to be very similar to the other parts of the Uncharted series, which means I will have a lot of fun. Another game I will probably get is Resistance: Burning Skies. It seems to be quite fun and it has an easy platinum trophy.
Besides games, I use my Vita a lot for music videos and movie trailers. Vimeo seems to be a good source for high quality videos, I found there many stunning videos which look very good on the Vita, for example:
Move
The Aurora
The Mountain
There also are many music videos on Vimeo which I havent found in good quality on Youtube. It seems the producers / directors of these videos are uploading them by themselves on Vimeo. Here are some which I have on my Vita to demonstrate what the display is capable of:
Coldplay - Every Teardrop is a Waterfall
Kanye West - All of the Lights
Beyonce - 1+1
J. Cole - Nobody's Perfect
I downloaded them by using this site, but I guess there are others who can do the same. Because the Vita has no folders yet, I decided to sort the files by using prefixes like "MUSIC" for music videos or "TRAILER" for trailers etc, looks quite good.
Old? Vita Like Running on Android From CHINA
http://micgadget.com/28348/introducing-droid-x360-a-ps-vita-knockoff-running-android-ics-video/
http://micgadget.com/28348/introducing-droid-x360-a-ps-vita-knockoff-running-android-ics-video/
Canis lupus
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Someone should tell Sony that. Never seen any advertisements for PSV in my region. Placing demo pods in stores is a big advertisement but there are only 3DS ones here.
There was already a thread about it. Lot of jokes about it being better than Vita and Vita being dead.
Rated-Rsuperstar
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About time Resistance Retribution got added to the store.
Typical these days. Well still having a blast with my Vita. Pc 360 get no play these days lol. 60 gig rip.
Nostalgic Nightmare
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Is Ys 7 the one I want? Anyone know what it costs on the NA store if so? I'm at work but I was going to grab a pre paid card on lunch.
I need a break from god eater for a bit.
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I need a break from god eater for a bit.
Thanks
michaelius
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Firmware with PS1 classics support is not released yet. Will be in "summer" so apart from remote play noone knows.
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