Fafalada said:
PS2 Kit already showed it wasn't. Maintenance costs for RSX drivers alone would likely outweigh any "profits" from the sales. And it would still be open to security risks as much or more then it is now.
The PS2Linux Kit was never ment to be a business the way you might think;
From the PS2 Linux Community one can read;
"Linux (for PlayStation 2) is
aimed mainly at the hobbyist home computer enthusiast.... Linux ... is a great
way to learn more about Linux, computers and programming as well as being
a powerful development platform for the experienced Linux user. ..." -- [
Ref]
patsu said:
PS4 will be starting from zero base ...
And therefor it would be good to have a Linux running day 1 on PS4.
patsu said:
... The UI is still pretty rough compared to polished OSes like Windows and Mac. ...
Don't know if that holds true. KDE, for example, is a pretty good UI to begin with.
As a child I used GeOS on a C64 and got no problems using it. I always loved, and
still love, to tinker around with the hardware I do play games on. Programming some
lines in BASIC on my C64 back in the days really got me started. It was so awesome.
patsu said:
See ? Why should Sony support Linux on PS3 then ? At least I paid for YDL subscription to keep Yellow Dog going.
You are funny, aren't you? :lol
Why Sony should support PS3 Linux? From a business point of view; to save money.
Let's looks again at the fw 3.21 PS blog; ...
security concerns ... mkay....
Going by the same logic they need to bring back the OtherOS, because without it
the PS3 has become much more vulnerable. No? I think the guys around Goeff
have seen this coming but the authorities thought otherwise. I hope they will
somehow turn back to Goeff & friends to ask how we all can go along. Linux, the
Open Platform concept, or anything for that matter isn't the problem. The
problem simply is that some authorities at Sony don't know how stuff works.
Hacking is a community approach, it's largely based on sharing ideas. More
people, more / different ideas. Individuals like GH and M do sometimes influence
the scene, but if you look at it, they do not really work with the community.
Both claimed to have the lv2 hypervisor since for about two months, but none of
them has shared the dump to the public. JB on the other hand is much more
open-minded;
"Jaicrab: a pleasure working with you friend [DemonHades].
Best to all! A week ago I started to dismount for the first time a PS3 and
install Linux without any experience. My only goal was to teach people to
change the cooling of a PS3. Gradually I was calling attention to the world
of SCENE and a eek I give the LV2."
Look from where he was coming from! He just wanted to change the cooling
system of the PS3.
JB was able to dump the lv2 hypervisor, utilizing GH's hack, just 3 days after
Sony has taken away the OtherOS feature, releasing it to the public. This is
what the removal of the OtherOS has lead to, emphasizing people in hacking the
PS3. No?
If the authorities at Sony aren't listening to their technical engineers, then
Sony may pay an utterly high price in the end, which will exceed the cost of
maintaining PS3Linux in order of magnitudes.
A proper supported PS3Linux will diminish the attempts and enthusiasm of
hacking the PS3. There would be no reason in hacking the PS3 while having
the OtherOS and the RSX enabled, no other than piracy, of course.
Emphasizing hacking on the PS3 may perhaps lead to piracy in the end.
I hope you got your answer, patsu. You may still feel free to disagree, but
I don't think that piracy can be countered by locking out features. Quite the
contrary will be the case. Well, it would be interesting to see how a possible
loss due to piracy on PS3 will stand upon the cost of maintaining PS3Linux.
As a big company you have to give something back to the community even if it
cost you a little. But it's not like that Sony hasn't done something like this
in the past, we've got the PS2Linux Kit. Let me repeat what I've written above;
"... Linux (for PlayStation 2) is aimed mainly at the hobbyist home computer
enthusiast.... Linux ... is a great way to learn more about Linux, computers
and programming as well as being a powerful development platform for the
experienced Linux user. ...". And up to my point of view, this is why Sony should
support the OtherOS / PS3Linux further. Education is the highest value we have.
Everybody has to spent a little. No?
Sony should reconsider their decision and go ahead with something we all can
go along with. The OtherOS + RSX is all what is needed.
And if the two reason I've given above, i.e. education and diminishing
interest in hacking the PS3, aren't worth to be considered, then please keep the
OtherOS feature out of the PS3. But one thing is for sure, locking out the OtherOS
feature from the PS3 will definitively lead to a dead end for Sony.