PS3 Firmware Update 3.21 of preventing piracy by removing Linux.
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MiloFoxburr
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Um geohot has a video camera. He used one last week or so to show off a new untethered hack for the iPhone. Seems odd that he needs to buy one now.tass0 said:
SecretBonusPoint
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tass0 said:
:lol :lol Thats like the oldest trick in the book
Zapages said:
I don't know if that lv2 thing you mention is the same as this one:
http://jaicrab.blogspot.com/
Just translation work here, I don't understand what they are talking about, sorry.
Edit: from another of the guys dealing with this project:
doktorpeace
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So if I installed this update (which I did) on my system that had Linux on it, what happened to that space? Do I now have 10 GB of dead space on my hard drive?
Massa said:
You're missing the point. I didn't say that you didn't pay for it. I'm saying that Sony almost certainly lost money on it.
And I'm not saying we should feel sorry for Sony, but rather why it'd make sense financially to remove OtherOS. Just as it makes sense for you to be upset if this affects you somehow.
VegaShinra
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I've seen this scattered in random comments and forums:
Are gamers trying to sue Sony for this course of action now?
Are gamers trying to sue Sony for this course of action now?
ChronicleX
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androvsky said:
Exactly. Why Sony would remove a feature to piss off a % of its userbase for no reason? Linux on PS3 is a entity Sony has no control over and was always massive security risk which is why RSX access was blocked out. Other than Sony releasing their own closed source linux distro their only choice is to remove the functionality. So they did, and then they ate their own shoes.
Even if Geohot is all talk it was enough to get Sony to make a move. It is just like the PSP scene, Sony removed homebrew early on due to Humma creating the Fastloader, Few years later Dark Alex arrives and not only creates CFW but him and a few others manage to fully bypass the IPL creating the Pandora. This forced Sony to make a new PSP hardware revision the 3000 series. However all of this was only ever possible due to PSP being exploited through non Sony code (tif) or from it being allowed (1.0-1.5).
In short there has been no exploits on the PS3, and the only way the security of the PS3 has been compromised so far is because of Linux. No-one has discovered any PS3 exploit yet so without Linux aslong as sony does not fuck something up their end to make the PS3 exploitable it will remain unhackable.
ChronicleX
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Kittonwy said:How would you unlock otherOS support on Slims which never had otherOS support.
A slim is just new version of the same hardware the Fat's use. Anything a Fat PS3 can do a Slim one can do also providing the functionality uses hardware both versions of the console have (meaning everything except BC essentially).
AmericanNinja
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VegaShinra said:
yes, sad isnt it?
Beelzeboss
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I hate how my 40GB PS3 is now a slim that looks like he let himself go.
SuicideUZI
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Mudkips said:
are you being sarcastic? seems like geohot has never lied before, anytime he has announced a new iphone hack it turned out to be real. unless I am missing something
WickedLaharl
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missile said:
wow this works great so far. thanks a bunch!
Slavik81 said:
The EU directive applies across the EU - all member states have had to implement it since 2002, and it's pretty specific rather than vague.
Given how big a market Europe has always been for Sony (and how badly they've tended to treat it) that's a lot of PS3s.SolidusDave
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iapetus
Scary Euro Man
indeed
thx for the tip, I think I will try to get some refund from amazon as well, even though my original launch model ylod'ed anyway ^^
Scary Euro Man
indeed
thx for the tip, I think I will try to get some refund from amazon as well, even though my original launch model ylod'ed anyway ^^
I suppose we'll just have to see. I still don't think they'll actually face the law and lose, but time will tell.iapetus said:The EU directive applies across the EU - all member states have had to implement it since 2002, and it's pretty specific rather than vague.
Ninja Moomin
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why is this thread still going?
i wonder how many people bitching about this actually made sort of use of linux on PS3?
you guys know that linux can be used on other devices? your linux life isn't over!
i wonder how many people bitching about this actually made sort of use of linux on PS3?
you guys know that linux can be used on other devices? your linux life isn't over!
Metalmurphy
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Massa said:
This thread is still going mainly because posts like yours keep restarting the discussion over and over again.
ps: if you know where I can buy a system other than the PS3 for Cell development for less than a few grand please let me know, ok?
How was your Cell development going?
firehawk12
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Massa said:
This thread is still going mainly because posts like yours keep restarting the discussion over and over again.
ps: if you know where I can buy a system other than the PS3 for Cell development for less than a few grand please let me know, ok?
If that's what you're using it for, then throwing down the 300 bucks to buy a Slim to play games shouldn't be a big deal?
Metalmurphy said:
Not going at all really, it was something I did for fun and I haven't had time to play with it in a very long time. And now I won't be able to go back to it even if I make the time.
firehawk12 said:
I'm not buying new hardware from Sony anytime soon, it's more likely I'll get rid of this PS3 before it dies completely on me.
In my final year, one of the electrical/computer engineering projects available was development for the PS3, optimizing something for CELL. It was one of several options like it, alongside some GPGPU stuff.firehawk12 said:
But the project almost assuredly required one of the students involved to supply the PS3. I doubt it will be an option next year after this news. $300 is a little pricey just to pick that particular final project. (And good luck finding a Linux-compatible PS3 that hasn't been updated in a year or two.)
Its about them removing features that I paid for. I used it a bit just to mess around with it, but I still feel affected by this.
And what will they say is a "security risk" next? Maybe free PSN is dangerous, or the ability to plug in usb sticks/drives. Or maybe you need to buy special Sony branded harddrives as any 2.5HDD might be dangerous...
And what will they say is a "security risk" next? Maybe free PSN is dangerous, or the ability to plug in usb sticks/drives. Or maybe you need to buy special Sony branded harddrives as any 2.5HDD might be dangerous...
Ninja Moomin
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Massa said:
really? i thought it was the usual let me bitch about something and nothing... do you know they even had the cheek to change the font via firmware too? imagine that!
edit... nvm.
brotkasten
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NinjaFusion said:
Why do you care about this thread anyway?
BriareosGAF
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To the guys routing to someone else's DNS, I hope you're considering how unwise that can be in terms of man in the middle, spoofed DNS, etc.
charlequin
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NinjaFusion said:
There are still a few Sony-themed avatar fads that haven't weighed in on how unimportant this is yet.
Panajev2001a
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Cruzader said:
... and doing purchases through that? It smells like a nice way to get your credit card data stolen IMHO...