lowhighkang_LHK
Member
You can already stream at 720p @ 60 fps on a base PS4. I'm sure you can stream 1080p @60 fps on the Pro.
As for as capturing is concerned, not sure.
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PS4 Pro Benefits for 1080p TV Owners (general and game-specific)
- Thread starter VanCityGamer
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You can already stream at 720p @ 60 fps on a base PS4. I'm sure you can stream 1080p @60 fps on the Pro.
As for as capturing is concerned, not sure.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Which is better looking?
4k on 1080p TV
or
4k on 4k TV?
4k on 1080p TV
or
4k on 4k TV?
4K on 4K
YuriLowell
Member
It just feels like such a half step since it seems like plenty of new games can come out and completely ignore the Pro.
it is pretty much a half step. I think that's the point
It is a half step that's precisely the point. It's a PS4 with a beefier gpu and a little extra juice for the CPU.
That's a strawman.
If you have a more powerful platform like Pro that is basically running the equivalent of current gen PS4 games, of course it will have the leeway to provide options.
On a standard XB1 and PS4, that is generally much harder to accomplish without careful optimization that most developers are unable to accomplish just optimizing for the base game to run smoothly in general, especially on their dedicated hardware pipelines.
Sony have said they worked hard at minimizing the amount of effort needed to optimize for Pro on that basis. We can assume if they carry the "Pro" label forward, their numbered consoles will be the base limitation of the generation and the Pro will be the halfway iterative unit to give more oomph, just like what was promised.
Aces&Eights
Member
Question about the Tomb Raider modes: Can you start a game on one mode then toggle to the others on the same game save for comparison? I will most likely go with the targeted 60fps mode but would like to switch between the other two, while in game, to get an idea of how they look and run.
DESTROYA
Member
So we get better image quality? Sign me up!
Do we also get more FPS in games that are pro patched? Lastly games that are pro enabled will we also see higher more stable FPS in games over the OG PS4?
I'm at work so sneaking in some questions, sorry if they have already been answered but can't read entire thread or boss gets pissed.
Do we also get more FPS in games that are pro patched? Lastly games that are pro enabled will we also see higher more stable FPS in games over the OG PS4?
I'm at work so sneaking in some questions, sorry if they have already been answered but can't read entire thread or boss gets pissed.
That is all up to the developer.
Even in videos, tomb raider looks so good. Uncharted too.
Beautiful. My only concern now is which option will provide the best image quality - 1080p mode with all the bells and whistles or 4k downsampled to 1080p?
Jakartalado
Member
You can stream at 60 fps (only available for Youtube) but not record at the same time. Although you can use the archive on YouTube.
You can stream at 30 frames (Youtube/Twitch/Dailymotion) and capture the last hour at 30 frames at the same time.
You can capture at 30 frames the last hour of gameplay at 720p (PS4 OG) and 1080p (PS4 PRO)
You can't capture at 60 frames per second at the moment.
VincentMatts
Member
They cant ignore the pro. Games that come out from this point on have to support both.
AppleSeason
Member
Kinda. For some people it will be interesting, but I'm the kind of persons that values framerate over bling. I used to disable everything I could to achieve that on PC, so making the graphics prettier does not work for me. The possibility of getting faster load times, though...
PackAPunchedMick
Member
The Battlefield 1 patch is gonna be terrible isnt it?
1080p with no improvements whatsoever.............thanks to a marketing deal with Microsoft.
1080p with no improvements whatsoever.............thanks to a marketing deal with Microsoft.
kriskrosbbk
Member
More or less...
VincentMatts
Member
No...
Tbh I'd take a full native 1080p and a smoother framerate in conquest operations etc.
dont scare me man.
as long as i get my FFXV pro patch day one im happy anyways
They have some really good comments about 1080p gaming in this TitanFall 2 vid by Digital Foundry. In about the second half of the video they specifically talk about how they are impressed with the 1080p improvements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJHyZMdxdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJHyZMdxdc
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No, absolutely not. That's just conjecture.
VincentMatts
Member
But its logical conjecture and it scares me!
I'm like 99% certain that on one of Kinda Funny's exclusive gamescasts (where Greg interviewed a dev from Crystal), he confirmed that you can switch on the fly whilst playing (i.e. pause, change setting, carry on playing).
any idea on this guys? Really wondering if 1080p full bells and whistles if offered by a game would be better. You would get probably a more stable framerate, better shadows, view distance possibly......would be better than just the simple checkerboard rendering to 4k
VanCityGamer
Member
Thanks to everyone who has contributed information! I also appreciate the kind words about the thread. I will continue to update the OP as long as new info keeps coming.
I had added the following based on what a poster said:
- Faster game loading from the default 1TB hard drive
Is anyone able to find a source on that? If not, I'll take it off the list.
I had added the following based on what a poster said:
- Faster game loading from the default 1TB hard drive
Is anyone able to find a source on that? If not, I'll take it off the list.
Always-honest
Banned
I think that is your best option if you don't like jaggies.
Was this already posted?
Ratchet & Clank 1080p gameplay. Looks amazing.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_ratchet_clank_on_ps4_pro-18526_en.html
Ratchet & Clank 1080p gameplay. Looks amazing.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_ratchet_clank_on_ps4_pro-18526_en.html
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Amazing. Gold bolt hunting will be amazing.
I doubt it tbh. Regardless of any marketing deal, they still sell a lot of software on PlayStation.
This looks phenomenal. IQ is very good.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
No source, it was a question followed by broken dreams :'(
YuriLowell
Member
You can buy them now.
You just missed out on them for 30 bucks each at amazon warehouse deals.
MADGAME
Member
Can they be used on OG PS4 with same benefit or is the wired functionality reducing latency exclusive to PS4P?
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
Supersample?
Sweet jesus. Was already getting one but this seals it. It's these kind of improvements I was hoping for. Horizon also has supersampling apparently, so... IN.
720 is fine, anything else is redundant.
Personally, i'd choose downsampling from the high resolution mode. The marginal graphics settings increases of PC games, especially on Tomb Raider are way less dramatic in most circumstances than the raw clarity that comes from the higher pixel count PC gaming gives games. In Tomb Raider especially, you'll notice the lack of jagged edges and sub pixel shimmer far more than the marginal graphics increases at a much lower resolution which those marginal graphics increases are harder to perceive.
So.....4k mode it is then!!!
Although I will be in the 1080p department when I'm on the move with my monitor.....27 inch with downsampling is going to be bullshot mode heaven
Hoping to snag a KS8000 to replace my 800D this black friday
Thanks Inu!
Your wording is weird though
you mention downsampling first.......but then talk about how pixel count is much more important relating to the 4k checkerboard method.....you kind of swung both ways with that answer XD
